While his Roid Rage form is ok i'm personally more of a fan of his SSJ1 form he had in the second movie (blasphemy i know :P)
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While his Roid Rage form is ok i'm personally more of a fan of his SSJ1 form he had in the second movie (blasphemy i know :P)
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We still don't know if Broly and Kale share a form.
For all we know Kale could be the only Super Saiyan Berserker while Broly has a new power
For all we know Kale could be the only Super Saiyan Berserker while Broly has a new power
Nope, you got that backwards, Goku had Hit on the ropes, but Goku is the one who forfeits because he wanted to see Monaka fight, however before forfeiting, Goku gave Hit a speech about how they shouldn't be puppets to Beerus and Champa, causing Hit to take a dive against Monaka just to stick it to Champa.
Brody will follow the trend of past viallains becoming allies. Imagine Goku, Frieda, Hit, Jiren, 17, Vegeta and Broly all fighting together.
Broly rabu rabu Kale... it'll be nice to see their kids later on.
As long as they don't do biobroly i am okay with it.
As long as they don't do biobroly i am okay with it.
I swear everyone either wants them to have sex or be related, it's weird
Goku also forfeits because he realizes that if Hit is an assassin, his fighting style is based on lethal moves and he's more handicapped by the no kill rule than Goku is. When Goku requests the kill rule be lifted so Hit can fight naturally without fear of disqualification, that prompts the argument between Beerus and Champa that makes Goku forfeit.
Kale is cool for like the few seconds she becomes Broly and they raise the production values, then that teaser goes away, the budget of the animation goes down, and she becomes boring waifu bait again.
Not only is Broly better than Kale, but most characters in this series eclipse her.
Its anime.
And i wouldn't be surprised if there are people that want both.
Kale has a personality, an arc, people she is friends with, and a romantic interest.
Broly is just an angry generic villain, like dragon balls doomsday
Yep.
Some people hate Broly because of parts of his story but I don't know anyone who loves Broly due to that lmao. Just because people hate that part doesn't mean people love it. Broly's just a straight up strong dude who wrecks stuff. He's the Braun Strowman of DB. He's the Hulk. He's just a beast and that's why he's loved.
Guaranteed, Broly is going to come out of this with more fans than he had prior to this announcement. Absolutely.
Super Blue or w/e people call it these days is a Toei invention, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's never brought up again.
Ultra Instinct is from Toriyama so it will definitely show up or at the very least be mentioned.
First of all this isn't true and all and Broly does have a personality which I've elaborated on and also linked to someone else who elaborated on earlier in this thread.
Secondly, her personality is practically non existent, her only factor is that she really really really likes Caulifla. She has nothing going on in her head outside of Caulifla. She can't even act without her, that's pretty boring.
Kale has a generic trope personality, a generic design, and a generic character arc. If it wasn't for the elements she borrowed from Broly she would be virtually nothing.
Broly's writing is pretty unremarkable, but Kale's writing is no better, with the added fact that her relevance is based on Broly's.
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Actually I'd take back the 'generic design' part. I was associating some of Caulifla's design elements to her in my memory.
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Going back and watching the og Broly film, has reawakened my love for the character. Even though his motivations suck, I love that he's just an asshole.
I dunno, I think the Broly stuff shrinkwrapped over her is the worst part of her character. Once they moved past that she was fine. They could've easily went in a more Gohan-like direction with her.
I'd say Kale's biggest enemy is time. She's a side character in an arc full of them. I found her plenty sympathetic for what she was, though.
You're not wrong.
The only interesting part of Kale is the Broly memberberries
This is the Dragon Ball fandom.
There will always be a hater for any portion of the series.
Couldn't care what the story is. I just want to see this sick new art style in motion. We will finally have some good looking action for a change.
Broly's weak body wouldn't be able to handle fusing with a god like Yajirobe.
Not sure if this is an anime trope, but the irrational behavior that caused her to transform was annoying. I couldn't build a connection to her.
Huh. Interesting. I'll have to chew on this new info for a bit, but I guess it's nice that Toriyama's making some attempt to make sense of all this.
Oh goody time to start shit talking one of the few female fighters we have tha has any chance of actually staying relevant. Goody.
I'm indifferent to Broly but I'm really irritated by his fans need to shit on Kale. Yeah her personality isn't exactly the most original but since when did we start criticizing fucking Dragon Ball for that?
She had an arc and personality, wether you liked it is entirely up to you but it's there. Also I found the dynamic with her controlled form more interesting then her just being space hulk. Literally the entire conclusion to her story is getting away from just being "female Broly."
And I like her relationship with Caulifla.
I swear this leading to more "yeah put those #%*$& in their place" from certain parts of the fandom is my biggest fear about this whole thing. Because the idea of women that don't just instantly worship Goku seems to really bother certain people for some reason.
Speaking of I'm not actually fond of that comparison because it implies that the only reason people like the Hulk is smashing. They've done a lot of interesting stuff with the character and even the MCU is giving him a character arc.
I'm indifferent to Broly but I'm really irritated by his fans need to shit on Kale. Yeah her personality isn't exactly the most original but since when did we start criticizing fucking Dragon Ball for that?
She had an arc and personality, wether you liked it is entirely up to you but it's there. Also I found the dynamic with her controlled form more interesting then her just being space hulk. Literally the entire conclusion to her story is getting away from just being "female Broly."
And I like her relationship with Caulifla.
I swear this leading to more "yeah put those #%*$& in their place" from certain parts of the fandom is my biggest fear about this whole thing. Because the idea of women that don't just instantly worship Goku seems to really bother certain people for some reason.
Speaking of I'm not actually fond of that comparison because it implies that the only reason people like the Hulk is smashing. They've done a lot of interesting stuff with the character and even the MCU is giving him a character arc.
Considering how Toriyama likes to do things in his own way Broly's most powerful form may be a much smaller form.
I doubt they want to mess with him to much due to marketing but man I'd love to see his fans reaction if they made him "puny."
Actually that's something I'm wondering. You have people here saying the reason people like Broly is that he smashes shit. Soooo what happens if they try to make him more then that in this movie? Do they want there to be more to this character?
I'm sure we'll get his big muscle form but it might not be the only look for him considering how Toriyama has characters whose final form was smaller than the previous large ones.
Broly himself is not a bad character or concept, hell Jiren isn't that different in many ways nor is Kale especially, a lot of people tend to hate on Broly largely thanks to the second and third movies which are truly god awful. The first one was pretty good, and he actually displayed a cruel sadistic side, there definitely was more to him than smash everything but his strength is what people tend to obsess over for negative or positive. It really doesn't take much to flush him out and with a new take we're bound to get exact that to satisfy some.