Here is the Twitch clip I mentioned earlier about Wattson referring to Wiz in a similar light years ago (Twitch clips aren't dated at all so idk when this was exactly).
Im saying he purposely weaponized this kids story to get back at Wiz for his own personal beef, something he's been ranting about for decades and stuff he always knew and admitted knowing several times on streams.
Yup
Arcade hazing was a common thing in the 90s/early 2000s.
I'm not surprise at all but at the time for a lot of us, this was considered "normal". Obviously looking back we all can see it was a huge abuse in power dynamics and bullying.
Watson is right though, the 3s/mvc2 era would not survive in today's time. Things were much different.
I frequented arcades in Southern Cali, Westside and never experienced any of this with the local crews. I don't know what arcades you were at but what's described in this thread isn't normal.Arcade hazing was a common thing in the 90s/early 2000s.
I'm not surprise at all but at the time for a lot of us, this was considered "normal". Obviously looking back we all can see it was a huge abuse in power dynamics and bullying.
Watson is right though, the 3s/mvc2 era would not survive in today's time. Things were much different.
I never said it was. I said hazing.Paying underage kids to strip to their underwear is not arcade culture mate
Speaking of replacement, is the Wizard that essential to things? I thought the Cannons were the guys behind EVO?
Isn't he just the TO?
I've seen people on Twitter lament how EVO has gotten commercial and corporate in recent years, and...it's better this way. Being a proper organization with structure instead of an event that lives and dies by the presence of Mr. Wizard is a no-brainer.That was EXTREMELY fast, excellent job from the EVO team.
Please continue to show us you are a professional business.
Arcade hazing was a common thing in the 90s/early 2000s.
I'm not surprise at all but at the time for a lot of us, this was considered "normal". Obviously looking back we all can see it was a huge abuse in power dynamics and bullying.
Watson is right though, the 3s/mvc2 era would not survive in today's time. Things were much different.
Arcade hazing was a common thing in the 90s/early 2000s.
I'm not surprise at all but at the time for a lot of us, this was considered "normal". Obviously looking back we all can see it was a huge abuse in power dynamics and bullying.
Watson is right though, the 3s/mvc2 era would not survive in today's time. Things were much different.
I never said it was normal, I said considered "normal". The quotes are noted to show that it definitely was not normal at all. Even Crackpr0n said at that time he didn't think anything about it. We didn't know better.I frequented arcades in Southern Cali, Westside and never experienced any of this with the local crews. I don't know what arcades you were at but what's described in this thread isn't normal.
I'd honestly argue that "going eSports" is for the best precisely because of this, accountability. Not just for EVO, but for the FGC in general.I've seen people on Twitter lament how EVO has gotten commercial and corporate in recent years, and...it's better this way. Being a proper organization with structure instead of an event that lives and dies by the presence of Mr. Wizard is a no-brainer.
For the record, because I'm unsure if you're misunderstanding or not, Watson is not the one making the accusation directly, he's signal boosting Mikey/Crackpr0n's allegations. He seems, however, to have been aware of this for a VERY long time.
I know you definitely aren't defending it in any way shape or form. But I still never experienced any of this whatsoever. I don't believe it was common.I never said it was normal, I said considered "normal". Even Crackpr0n said at that time he didn't think anything about it. We didn't know better.
I'm not trying to defend Mr. Wiz and what he allegedly did. What he is accused of is awful and he deserves all the shit if true. Theres no denying that. I'm just stating shit like this was more common than people think.
Given where this is headed, I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. Wizard is taking the usual legal track of keeping quiet.I honestly do not trust how fast that response was so late at night. Also I do not want a statement of investigation, I want to see a statement from Mr. Wizard himself.
word spreads fast on twitter, way earlier in the day it was pretty much confirmed that within the next 48 hours something was going to be released.I honestly do not trust how fast that response was so late at night. Also I do not want a statement of investigation, I want to see a statement from Mr. Wizard himself.
I'm just stating shit like this was more common than people think.
I'd honestly argue that "going eSports" is for the best precisely because of this, accountability. Not just for EVO, but for the FGC in general.
Looks like Nairo nuked his account
I'd honestly argue that "going eSports" is for the best precisely because of this, accountability. Not just for EVO, but for the FGC in general.
It truly is for the best. They need to leave the wild west behind and go eSports.I ageee with this. I don't think this is stopping with Mr Wiz.
Yeah. Going eSports is one of the best things that could/can happen to the FGC. Players, TOs, commentators can take it seriously as a day job and accountability is way higher across the board
Jesus Christ.
Looks like Nairo nuked his account
Just. Wow.
Looks like Nairo nuked his account
Looks like Nairo nuked his account
Looks like Nairo nuked his account
Those screenshots. Holy smokes.
Looks like Nairo nuked his account