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Final Fantasy VII Demo Playthrough Leak [Update: Full game spoilers datamined]
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Im calling an attitude childish for acting overdramatic over something outside of context of the game. If you play the game and it doesnt make sense with the rest of the changes, and one complains about it. that's fine.
But if people are falling over themselves at such an early stage before the game is even out just because of leaks from a demo that they havent even played, that's a problem
Of course pirates are having fun while us naive little obedient consumers have to sit here with nothing.
As far as I've heard its just the demo being datamined right now
The only thing thats childish was your own post bemoaning anyone having a critical comversation about plot points we know about that were changed. No one was being over dramatic. At all. If you think saying "i think this is a bad change and undermines a lot of the moral ambiguity of their actions" is over dramatic then youre in for a very long year of over dramatic posts about this game.
People are allowed to dissect this without scrutiny and without having to be told theyre children because people like you don't like that theyre talkong about the footage in a particular way. Not to mention having that conversation does not preclude them from changing their mind if the actual outcome is done justice by the final release.
Pretty sure the full game itself was not up there. They just saw the placeholder file size. As far as I know, no one has the full game
I'm not a huge fan of the change in concept, but it's also not that bad.
AVALANCHE is still an ecoterrorist organization trying to bomb facilities that have innocents in them. My understanding is that Shinra now makes the explosioan worse, which is really just an extension of their plan to demonize AVALANCHE in the original.
It does take some edge from AVALANCHE, but not that much, IMO.
AVALANCHE is still an ecoterrorist organization trying to bomb facilities that have innocents in them. My understanding is that Shinra now makes the explosioan worse, which is really just an extension of their plan to demonize AVALANCHE in the original.
It does take some edge from AVALANCHE, but not that much, IMO.
Yea I know lol. I hope they make it unskippable like the original lol
Ican't remember exactly how it worked, but you could cast it multiple times, which took forever, so I'd just cast it andwatch tv lmao
well I don't think summon cutscenes will be as long as they are now different
you have a scene of them entering the battlefield, then they stay and help fight for a while and then end with a big attack. I dunno how KotR will workin this manner tho
I think it was when paired with the Quad materia gooooood times
That narrative may not even be there anymore or it's been changed so drastically that this would fit in more naturally or there's build up via a different way.
Genesis wasn't really Nomura's idea.
Genesis was Hideki Imaizumi's idea after collaborating with Gackt after he sang Dirge of Cerberus' theme song.
Probably because that's an addition, not a change. And far as we can tell it doesn't alter thematic execution.
Oh you can download it directly on the PS4 if you use some homebrew store app. Guess I'll try that. Will report back
well there is something from the miner. Take it with a grain of salt
seems like there is but a single weapon for him?
At that point, you're already in the point of no return for Midgar so it makes sense
I haven't watched the videos and I won't since I want to play the demo for myself, but I really don't understand how this change is a big deal right now. Avalanche is still a terrorist organization. They still went there with the intent to blow up the reactor, and they knew that innocent people could potentially die as a result. Shinra making the bombing even worse doesn't take away any of the moral ambiguity especially considering Avalanche doesn't know that they meddled. This change is going to be put into better context later as well in setting up the Wutai conflict. I love that the remake is expanding on various things. This "change" is barely even a change to me. I guess maybe I'll feel different after playing the demo myself. We will see.
- Aerith's last one is obscured, but it looks like there's six weapons per character, with four being in the original and two new ones. Based on the recent information above it sounds like there's a portion where Red is playable but there isn't much to do with him, if it follows the original the game will basically be over by time he joins so it makes sense.
- Happy to see Enemy Skill is still around.
- Seal Materia is cool because that's the Japanese name of the Materia that had Freeze/Break/Tornado/Flare in the original. I wasn't sure if we were going to see any of those spells so soon.
- Happy to see Enemy Skill is still around.
- Seal Materia is cool because that's the Japanese name of the Materia that had Freeze/Break/Tornado/Flare in the original. I wasn't sure if we were going to see any of those spells so soon.
God forbid people have a day off for a major holiday. I swear to god, y'all crow about people getting time off and reasonable hours but the moment something you want comes out you turn into entitled brats. It'll be fun when it actually comes out, looking forward to it.
All i'm saying, is the people saying "FF7R is ruined" for one small change at the beginning of the game for something they have none of the context are silly.
I say to those people, your not gonna have a fun time if this is the response to a single change from the original, again, out of context of the rest.
Taking it with a huge grain of salt since anyone can create folders etc. All and all it looks good if they end up being true in the final release.
Who said final fantasy 7 remake was ruined? Quote me that person.
I think that
The Seal materia will be this: https://www.cavesofnarshe.com/ff7/w_item.php?item=Seal;chromeless=true
My original post was in response to someone saying "original >>>>>>>>>> remake" over the singular plot point they have no context of. Im not going to quote that person.
Avalanche aren't terrorists. And yes, it's a pretty big deal because the fallout sits squarely on Shinra's lap. It changes the way Avalanche is even supposed to be seen as because 1.It was an accident in the original that Barret said was a necessary cost to pay, 2.If we want to have something that Avalanche was unjustly blamed for, then there is the plate. The purpose right now is "Shinra bad, Avalanche good", which we already knew but at least leave the player the interpretation of whether or not Avalanche's actions were justified (which to me completely were justified and justifiable).
Maybe they will redeem this later but for now it's pretty baffling.
So no one actually said what your previous post stated was what you were calling out as childish and over dramatic, and you had to essentially make something up that no one actually said to prove that point? Who is acting childish and over dramatic again?
Great contribution. Apparently telling people not to make stuff up in order to call people childish is what really is childish.
I would hope you knew what I meant by calling Avalanche a terrorist organization. And we've already seen in the trailers that Barret has the same story beat and likely the same character arc. "You all gotta look at the bigger picture here. Nothing worth fighting for was ever won without sacrifice." At that moment, the bombing probably killed many, many innocent people and Barret is still arguing for it's justification. He's not showing doubt or questioning the explosion.
The folder names are using the Japanese names (like Hard Breaker instead of Hardedge) so I'm assuming that Seal is referring to the Japanese name instead of the English one. That said it's feasible to translate the Japanese names of both the Seal and Contain Materias as "Seal" though, especially if you're just a developer making folder/file names for internal use and don't need to make the nuances really clear, so there's a good chance you're right!
No, i am responding in general to posts being what i think is over-dramatic about this before the game is out, starting with the quote i just mentioned. No one said "FF7R is ruined", but i am responding to those few people i think are making similar sentiments. No i am not talking about anyone and everyone expressing concern or calling into question the change. Just those that i think are going overboard. if that is better clarification for you there you go. Maybe i didnt phrase it well enough and i apologize to those i unintentionally insulted. But that was the jist of my point
RedXIII maybe only having 1 weapon & not getting much play time makes me question how much of Midgar is really getting expanded. Obviously it makes sense in FF7, but remakes Midgar is suppose to be it's own game.
Most of the expansion is probably before the Shinra Tower, which will probably still be the final dungeon (along with the highway chase).
Well he joins right as it ends so that makes a lot of sense to be fair. They'd have to change too much to have him come earlier
I'm not reading the spoiler but let me take a guess because there was one thing that stood out as really bizarre in this demo.
In the original game they make it clear the "good guys" are terrorists.
They don't have Shinra strangely order their machines to go berserk which spreads the blame of this catastrophe to the bad guys.
They don't have Shinra strangely order their machines to go berserk which spreads the blame of this catastrophe to the bad guys.
Eh, I don't really like the physical ghosts that much, but Aerith is a Cetra and always knew more than she let on. She can hear the voices of the planet and sense spirits.
FF7 flashback to when Aerith was a child shortly after getting adopted by Elmyra:
Aeris
Mom. Please don't cry.
Elmyra
Aeris just blurted that out all of a sudden. When I asked her if something happened...
Aeris
Someone dear to you has just died. His spirit was coming to see you, but he already returned to the planet.
Elmyra
At that time I didn't believe her. But... Several days later... We received a notice saying my husband died... ...and that's how it was. A lot had happened, but we were happy. Until one day...
and when Tseng comes to take Aerith:
Tseng
But Aeris, surely you hear voices sometimes when you're all alone?
Aeris
No, I don't!
Elmyra
But I knew. I knew about her mysterious powers...
She tried so hard to hide it, so I acted as though I never noticed.
After rescuing Aerith from Hojo:
Cloud
...Speak with the Planet?
Tifa
Just what does the Planet say?
Aeris
It's full of people and noisy. That's why I can't make out what they are saying.
Cloud
You hear it now?
Aeris
I, I only heard it at the Church in the Slums. Mother said that Midgar was no longer safe. That is... my real mother. Someday I'll get out of Midgar... Speak with the Planet and find my Promised Land. ...That's what mom said. I thought I would stop hearing her voice as I grew up, but...
As for the intro to this demo, the voices she is hearing are chanting One Winged Angel. It could be a symptom of Sephiroth taking over the Lifestream or his followers beginning reunion, his voice in the Lifestream is becoming clearer and more dominant. Aerith would sense that.
Alright, well I've got a consistent speed finally going at around 2mb so its gonna take around 3 hours to finish. Don't expect anything from me until then or if someone else gets to it before then.
Comparing the game to the original is obviously inevitable but yeah..... It's doing it's own thing which was obvious awhile ago. I personally don't expect it to replace the og. It'll be great for different reasons.
I didn't follow Resident Evil 2's release at the time. Did people compare every little detail to the original game too?
My understanding is that you'll be able to install it but not fire it up unless you're FW gives you special access.
Nope. the pkg came with the passcode for whatever reason so making a fpkg that works with 5.05 was already done.