The ghosts are probably Jenova pieces. I think they wanted something like this in the original.
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Final Fantasy VII Demo Playthrough Leak [Update: Full game spoilers datamined]
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not to this degree....the changes of RE2's story and such were kind of diffrent though. I understand people pulling their hair out because the story of the original is beloved whereas RE2's story isnt really the reason people like it.
At the same time, we dont have all t he information and how the story is being portrayd in the remake, so we should wait and not freak out before we have all the context of things.
Oh awesome. Didn't catch that they got it working with 5.05 already.
Shout out to Emerald in the FF server for pointing this out. This could prove Red is a party member!
So in the demo files the party is listed by the code WE000_ with the last number being their slot in the party. Cloud is 00, Barrett is 01, Tifa is 02, Aerith is 03 and Red is 04. Surely if he's got the same numbering pattern as the others and naturally follows on from Aerith (who joins the party before Red) then that means he's playable, right?
No Spooky Spiders or Zapping was pretty lame, otherwise it was a good remake.
I believe it!
Red is my favourite character, I don't want to wait another decade. 😔
No but you should have seen when people found out about the Remake not having spiders or plants. People really acted like it would be the worst game ever at the time.
Same for me! This is the best proof we have yet of him being playable so this is a very good sign!
Extremely low. I have to say though that I am not against the idea!
Could see a cameo like short appearance that makes you go "wait a minute, was that Yuffie"
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If they were smart, they would use this as a way to tie her into the story in a more 'official' way. She doesn't have to join the party but have her fuck with the party a bit and then meet her again in part 2 where she joins them for real.
I think there might be oblique mentions of her (e.g. the princess of Wutai, or maybe some idiot bandit hanging around outside the city environs) in the same way we may hear about the failed space programme, but I doubt we'll actually see her.
I wouldn't bet on Yuffie being in Midgard... Well, she might be, but not playable. However, mentions to her and an early appearance wouldn't be so surprising. Heck, if there is one city where a materia-thief would go, I bet it would be Midgard. Would be more logical to encounter there trying to steal materias than in a random forest out of nowhere.
Demo has leaked. Nothing like this was ever planned by SE.
They probably wanted to time the demo for mid-February, to get maximum marketing and social coverage before the release of the game. Same as Capcom, who has released RE2Remake demo few weeks before the full game launched.
No I know it wasn't planned for it to leak, but since it has I was thinking like, damn get something up on Twitter at least, demo releases next week or something. But, maybe they had a lot of marketing materials and a big push prepared for the demo so they end up holding off anyways so it doesn't go to waste. Hell, maybe it's not even the finalized version for all we know. I just felt like the executives are probably making damn good money, for there to be no acknowledgment looks bad on their part, they haven't even mentioned the demo exists yet when people have played the whole thing.
Those are both valid points. I think there's something interesting about the explosion's size being Avalanche's mistake because it leads to interesting questions about blame and justification, but I agree that the original game only vaguely follows up on this thread, so this change isnt necessarily unacceptable. I'm mostly just skeptical because of SE's track record with reinterpreting FFVII.
What I like about Aeris in the original game though is how deliberately she seems to come across as a weirdo that hears voices. She's carrying around a materia that her mom gave to her but it doesnt even do anything, she hears voices when no one is around, and the only "power" she seems to have that makes her different from other people is that she can get flowers to grow in the church. It would have been so easy to make her an explicitly glowing magical girl with the fate of the world in her hands and I really like that they didnt.
It's the same reason I dont like that in a recent trailer Barret dramatically talks to Cloud about the planet "crying out"
The original game is very deliberate about making the plot threads about the ancients and the planet being alive this sort of underpinning that then, once you get to Cosmo Canyon, gets given new context and becomes something else entirely.
I mean, it's more viable than Red, if the game ends after the assault on Shinra HQ. Yuffie doesn't have a set point in which she joins the group. They can do with her as they wish.
You don't think Red XIII will be in the game? Shouldn't it cover the whole Midgar section up to and including the big motorbike chase at the end?
Red XIII will definitely be in the game what people argue is if he will be playable or not.
Remaking the Midgar portion of FF7 and not having Red Playable is just about the dumbest thing I can imagine. No way in hell he isn't playable lol.
You haven't played FF7, cool.
Well, this ending on Midgar leaves Red just little time within the game depending on how they do it, I'm trusting we'll get him anyway.
As mentioned before, I'm pretty sure they meant "in a playable capacity." He's definitely appearing at least as a guest character, but whether we'll be controlling him remains to be seen.
In terms of Red being playable, this is a pretty good sign he will be;
I always said that if you are going to make this game JUST about the Midgar portion, at the very least, you better hit every beat in the original. You could re-arrange the beats or add MORE beats (I EXPECT there to be more beats given that you SHOULD be doing more in Midgar), but the original beats BETTER be there because there' s no excuse NOT to have them.
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Eh, no, they explicitly say Aerith can hear the voices and see ghosts in Midgar. And she makes it clear she's aware of her people and the magical destiny she has to go to North Crater.
Barret is talking shit. He always led Avalanche like an evangelist leading a cult. He can't actually hear the voices and saving the planet is just an excuse to enact his revenge on Shinra for destroying Corel.
Remember that the original Avalanche was formed by people from Cosmo Canyon who tried to hear the voices of the planet:
Barret
There was this guy who studied 'Planetary Life' here. He couldn't take things the way they were, so he went to Midgar to form AVALANCHE. Wanna hear more?
Cloud
- Go on
Barret
Guess you could say this is where AVALANCHE was born. I always wanted to come here... And... I finally...... made it. A lot... happened...
Barret is a wannabe hippy who wants to believe this stuff so he doesn't feel guilty about killing innocent people.
Mainly because he'll show up right at the end and some people think SE won't bother making him playable for the end of part 1 but I disagree with that. At this point there's more evidence proving he'll be playable.
im not judging the story changes without seeing the whole picture and how it will be connected together.
I think people are thinking this way due to several factors
1. In the original Red is at the end part of Midgar section. It would be too late to have him as full-fledged member if he will be used only at the very end. It make sense for dev's point of view to not put as much resource into a character that will barely be playable in the entire game compared to the rest of full-fledged party members.
2. They haven't shown Red in any promotional material so far. Even pre-release preview book that is coming out on Feburary in Japan has this as it's cover
Modern SE doesn't like anthropomorphs, so I'm not counting on Red XIII even being present at all.
I'll be pleased to find out I'm just being paranoid.
I'll be pleased to find out I'm just being paranoid.
It would make sense because of the whole escape section. I am curious about the motorcycle chase.
Seems like they are assuming that's the end and there won't be post game content after the end or added content that wasn't in the original before leaving Midgard.
Them not wanting to do the work on Red doesn't really hold weight because surely it'll be less work for them to do it for part 2, so they might as well do it now
EDIT: Also he's not in the marketing because he hasn't been revealed yet. Why would they just reveal Red on a Japanese book cover lmao
EDIT: Also he's not in the marketing because he hasn't been revealed yet. Why would they just reveal Red on a Japanese book cover lmao
Not having him in the Shinra building would be require major changes that people would not be comfortable with I'm guessing but yeah, him showing up right at the end would make you wonder if he shows up in this part. I think he makes it in thoughI think people are thinking this way due to several factors
1. In the original Red is at the end part of Midgar section. It would be too late to have him as full-fledged member if he will be used only at the very end. It make sense for dev's point of view to not put as much resource into a character that will barely be playable in the entire game compared to the rest of full-fledged party members.
2. They haven't shown Red in any promotional material so far. Even pre-release preview book that is coming out on Feburary in Japan has this as it's cover