when you beat Gilgamesh, you will unlock the last of the combat sim battles. The hardest ones in the game.
Also to add to this, there's literally a conversation in Nibelheim between Yuffie, Cloud and Tifa around the fact that people immigrate to other places, when Yuffie mentions that the Shinra scientist has a Wutaian name lol.
I remember the part about Wutai immigrants, but I don't remember if it was said that it was a large number of people. They also used a person with a distinctively Japanese name as an example, and I don't think we meet a lot of characters like that.
I mean, the game itself draws parallels between different in game regions and real life cultures. It's not like the game takes place in a heavily fictionalized universe like Middle Earth or The Forgotten Realms, Gaia is meant to somewhat mirror the real world as it existed in 1997.
Midgar or a bigger metropolis like that being a melting pot I can buy, but every region of the game is pretty much the same.
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Congratulations! The last two chapters are basically a victory lap by comparison. Only major bump I hit was:
I see, thanks. I guess this explains Asian influences on The Wall Market.
I still don't think Gaia being as culturally diverse as it is in the games is, like, deliberate, but I guess this works as an in universe explanation.
Well, I think you are wrong. I think you have no evidence to suggest that the culturally diverse world of FFVII is not an intentional world building element. Especially when that very game does HAVE an example of a nation that has mostly kept to itself and has a more singular culture. Like, yes, sometimes world-building elements are done because the writer thinks it's cool. And we both seem to agree that's fine. But I think you're making a pretty big leap to go from that to whatever tangent about the culturally diverse aspects of Midgar proving that the FFVII staff don't think about their world or it proving Nojima can't make realistic worlds or whatever else.
Again, I've said that Midgard and surrounding regions are "a mishmash of various western mythologies and cultures (Nordic, Greek, Celtic, Jewish) being blended together without much rhyme or reason" and that "it's the indication of approach to the lore and world building as a whole". I've never said "FFVII staff don't think about their world" because they clearly do, just not the as great of a detail some people believe, and I didn't say that "Nojima can't make realistic worlds" because he did so in the past.
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Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth - Aerith Death Scene
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Sephiroth is still standing over her body, with the sword in hand, as the rest of the party arrives on the scene. Not to mention, Cloud stabbing her with one of his buster swords would make a much bigger mess.
Not to mention Barret screams in that exact same scene 'i'll kill you'Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth - Aerith Death Scene
Dirge of Cerberus Final Fantasy 7MOVIE: https://youtu.be/yOve2hvroWIFULL GAME: https://youtu.be/HguA8ir6TccFinal Fantasy 16MOVIE: https://youtu.be/U3EJLoxv5J...
Sephiroth is still standing over her body, with the sword in hand, as the rest of the party arrives on the scene. Not to mention, Cloud stabbing her with one of his buster swords would make a much bigger mess.
I'd say it clearly shows his shocked face, then we cut to his POV of seeing Cloud and Aerith, then he looks over at Seph, then yells "I'll kill you!"
Haha, I totally cheesed that boss and he didn't even get the chance to do that problematic attack. I just stacked Cloud with ice materia paired with Magic focus x2, swiftcast, magic efficiency and HP absorb. Equipped the Genji gloves, and used prime mode to get him into Fury and spammed ice LVL 3. Tifa cast faith on cloud, and Barret cast haste and manawall on everyone.
The idea that Tifa even tangentially would blame Cloud for Aerith's death completely flies in the face of the character as we know. She's hopelessly in love in Cloud, she immediately forgives him for trying to murder her, and will even smooch with him after that if you chase that relationship. The rest of the party could have sentenced Cloud to firing squad, and Tifa would jump in front of the bullets to protect him.
? The cait sith betrayal is right there. I don't think the writers are clearly against friction at all..
This part is funny because there's a Nojima interview from last month about this.
So that friction there you're thinking of for Tifa and Aerith? Didn't really exist.Kazushige Nojima said:
Cait Sith does his betrayal, then bounces, then returns for the heroic sacrifice and is immediately forgiven (and that same happened in OG). By "friction" I mean people not getting along, and the closes thing we got to this was Cloud and Barrett in the first act of the Remake.
Not only it did exist, it was even more pronounced in the cut content.
Sure, I'm not saying every japanese person thinks like that, but there is definitely a discourse in Japanese SM by many users I at least do not see it here.
I would be fine if they killed her off like in OG, I would be even more fine if she would survive, (Remake Aerith has grown to be one of my favorite VG characters, If she's truly gone then her presence will be missed in Part 3)
Kinda hard to call this more pronounced without context. Reading a bit further one of the bits mentioned was Tifa and Aerith being disgusted/jealous *together* towards Cloud.Not only it did exist, it was even more pronounced in the cut content.
Source: https://twitter.com/TurquoiseHammer/status/1782051981680332931
Cloud says to Cait he didn't fully forgive him but there are more important tasks at hand, which is kinda true they need each other. Cait actually betrays Cloud his judgement as he said before he fully trusts him, so there is that
I didn't say I'm looking for it, lol. Everyone in OG was getting along pretty well, and they are getting along even better in remakes. I really don't see how devs would want to start interpersonal drama now, they have too much story to juggle already to add potential conflict between Cloud and Tifa to the pile.
When I first saw Cloud blocking Sephiroth's attack I was saying 'no, please no!'. Not because I'm a purist, but because I thought it would've been a weak copout.
I would have been controversial and killed Sephiroth off so he doesn't get the chance, you have the end of the world in Zack's dimension and possibly a greater enemy through the crack like let's say the source, Jenova Hive is hiding beyond. I disliked that 5 stage final battle because you know Sephiroth will fly away after it. I think the tension suffered.
There is still the possibility of Sephiroth completely dying in Part3, that's part of the speculation/theories I've heard but we'll see.
Sephiroth dying would make sense for me if they don't plan to continue with FF7 after this. Sephiroth is maybe as important/popular as Cloud
If you mean physically, then yes I would have to agree but spiritually or through other means is a different case.
It seems like it was very intentional that Rebirth was trying to make you think you had a chance to save Aerith, and that there is meaning in the fact that despite feeling that way, you were not able to. Some people don't get that, and some people that do get that are not going to be as on board with it until we see that meaning more explicitly communicated in Part 3.
Well let me add also option C to this which is me, who at least now gets it completely and I am on board with the idea but I still feel the execution was quite sloppy in Rebirth and my opinion is not gonna change even if Part3 nails it with the story.
