While I hope it's true, sometimes it's had too see the shitty working conditions when you've just started.Tris Retweeted Joeys statement so it seems Andre is treating his current employees much better. Doesn't excuse the past though
It's weird. It makes it sound like Andre learned and is trying to do better going forward, which would have been a fantastic thing to describe when you're making an statement on the matter. Like, if there were actually specifics he could go into that showed that he understood the problem and had made any sort of effort whatsoever to fix it, that would be so, so, so much better than "learning about this has caused me pain".
There's also this random dude who claims to know Andre and says he's good. And I have no reason not to believe Joey. Which begs the possibly even worse question... Was Andre only selectively being a horrible boss to Jon/Ash/Derrick/etc? Does he really treat different people that much differently? It's almost more comforting to believe that he's bad to all of them, but reading Joey's thing makes it seem like, no, Andre is only that bad to his longest-running colleagues. Selective dickishness.
He doesn't do videos if he thinks others (Jon/Derrick mostly) are there to do it instead.
Because that would absolutely lead to grounds for legal action from past employees/contractors. It's shitty but understandable from a business perspective. Still shitty thoughWhy is it so hard, in the face of this overwhelming evidence against you, to just admit that you fucked up, apologise and promise to be better going forwards?
That's all he had to do. Next level hubris on display here. It's shocking.
Joey (new GX member) has made a statement: https://twitter.com/FerrisWheelPro/status/1349520459956678660?s=20
I can only hope this means that the new members are indeed being treated better.
I really hope this is true, but as I said before, I doubt the new staff would ever be like "yeah Andre pays us like shit and makes us work like dogs" while he is paying them, especially if their contracts have non compete clauses that makes them feel chained to GX.
I really hope this is true, but as I said before, I doubt the new staff would ever be like "yeah Andre pays us like shit and makes us work like dogs" while he is paying them, especially if their contracts have non compete clauses that makes them feel chained to GX.
How trashy. I guess Andre is another in a long line of liberals who refuse to practice what they preach.
Just pointing out how his behavior and treatment toward his former employees runs counter to many of the values he's expressed on Twitter in the past.
For some reason youtube channel TYT run by Cenk Uygur comes to mind. Lots of parallels with what he preached vs. how he treated his staff when they wanted to unionize for fair pay.Just pointing out how his behavior and treatment toward his former employees runs counter to many of the values he's expressed on Twitter in the past.
I don't think that has anything with him being liberal or not - it's a bit of a weird thing to signal outJust pointing out how his behavior and treatment toward his former employees runs counter to many of the values he's expressed on Twitter in the past.
Joey's statement gives me vibes of like being held at gunpoint by Andre. I really hope i'm wrong and he's doing well. It's just from what we've seen of Andre, especially with that extremely half-assed apol- uhh, "statement", I have trouble trusting he's a good boss.
I'm not sure what people expected. An apology leans towards admitting guilt. Sure it's a garbage response, but based on the story so far I wasn't expecting more.
Businessman who screwed old employees out of pay projects false persona on social media shock.Just pointing out how his behavior and treatment toward his former employees runs counter to many of the values he's expressed on Twitter in the past.
Just pointing out how his behavior and treatment toward his former employees runs counter to many of the values he's expressed on Twitter in the past.
It's kind of pointless taking the word of people who stilly rely on Andre to pay the bills on this because they have the strong incentive of wanting to keep a source of income and so it's much harder for them to make statements that might get them fired (and for all we know they could even be being pressured to give positive statements). It'd be nice if this was true but it feels extremely suspicious when everyone who no longer relies on Andre for income is telling a very different storyJoey (new GX member) has made a statement: https://twitter.com/FerrisWheelPro/status/1349520459956678660?s=20
I can only hope this means that the new members are indeed being treated better.
I mean, pretty much nobody is going to publicly badmouth their boss in a place they know their boss might see it unless they already have another job locked up that they're already planning to go to. It's unfortunately impossible to trust any positive statement by current staff because we have no way of knowing if they're being coerced or pressured into making such statements. They could be telling the truth, they could just as easily be saying nice things because they're worried they'll lose their means of supporting themselves if they don'tThe other GX members, currently on staff now, made statements in the GX discord all indicating they're fine with their current positions and that they are on good terms with andre. I'm honestly not sure what to believe and while I don't blame the new staff in any way, I still feel that Andre is handling this pretty terribly and threw them under the bus by making them the public face of GX during all this. :| Really concerning tbh. Even if he is paying them better than his old crew, that doesn't mean him paying his old crew badly didn't happen... because it did, and still needs to be called out. The fact he didn't just go "I feel like shit for what I did back then but I pledge to not do that again with the new crew" and made that awful statement just reeks to me that he doesn't care and only wants to save public face in any way possible.
I was about to say... The thing that really gets me about this apology is the use of "independent contractors."
They're not introduced as friends, people, colleagues... Just "independent contractors."
Did Tris and Tom put out statements too?I really hope GVG continues to grow well. Ash, Derrick and Steve deserve all the support that is coming their way.
For GameXplain... i really, really hope what Tris, Joey and Tom are saying is true. But i cannot sympathize with Andre anymore. He fucked up way too bad.