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Game of Thrones S8, Apr 14-May 19 @9PM EDT |OT| Aunt-Man and the Frost
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There are eight Sand Snakes.
So 8-3=
So Dorne being written out of the show is stupid to me.
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There are eight Sand Snakes.
So 8-3=
So Dorne being written out of the show is stupid to me.
There also has to be a power structure below that of The Martells. I'm aware that more exist. They just haven't been introduced to the audience, so they may as well not exist like said power structure.
LF. I hate his scheming ass, but he went out like a loser. He should have bolted the minute Bronn repeated his line to him when he gave him the dagger.
It's whoever the mom had left in charge as regent. If there are 5 more sand snakes, reason suggests that when she and the other three were away, Ellara would have put someone in charge (like Jon did with Sansa).
I mean, the show doesn't really care who rules Dorne. Just like they don't really care who rules Highgarden, or the Twins, or Horn Hill. Like half the realm should be in complete chaos trying to figure out succession plans but none of that is gonna be important.
That episode is GoT in a nutshell.
"Who's that, I like her."
<later>
"Welp!"
Your point makes me giggle when people look at the current head butting in Winterfall and go, "you guys need to be united!" The Riverlands are in chaos due to the killing off of all the Male Frey. The Reach (the breadbasket of Westeros) is a looted, pillaged, and sacked (Highgraden) mess. Dorne is doing whatever. The Stormlands...what the hell is happening there? The Vale has breast milk connoisseur Robyn "I want to see bad men fly" Arryn chilling while his army has been repurposed behind his back.
Even if the heroes can retreat south, they're going to run into a disorganised southern part of the continent, and the Golden Company. Taking out Cersei and uniting the south was absolutely the move they should have done first.
Remember when Margeary and even Joff would go around KL and whatnot? The meeting in the pit is one only time I recall Cersei leaving the Red Keep since her walk of shame.
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That's another thing I don't like, Cersei blew up the sept and had the mountain go around killing people who trash-talked her, but we should see the outcome of that. People cowering in fear as Cersei's troops enforce curfews, people executed for speaking out against Cersei, and some sparrow left-overs praying to the seven and cursing her. But for all we know fuck all has changed.
I miss
She also had more chemistry with Jon than Dany despite barely speaking a word to him.
That pissed me off honestly. You go from the end of season 6, where you have a coronation scene where the assembled people are piss scared, to the opening episode of season 7 where Cersei has somehow convinced everyone that she's the sane one and it's in fact the foreign Queen they need to be afraid of. Like how are you not facing an insurrection right now? Even Joff had people throwing shit at him and starting riots and what not.
Right it would have been the perfect opportunity for some to say they were better off under the Targs, some not, some trying to outright propangadize in favor or against Dany.
Same problem with ep1, the arrival of the GC should have had one scene with people reacting to their arrival, some being angry, some confused, some yelling at them to get rid of Cersei.
They were not only wittier but also an appendice to all the good writing around it. The latter banter relies too much on cock and balls. It also gets wearisome after 8 years of it.
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Accurate.
See this is the kind of that is fine, if they actually touch on that. Of course they won't.
What's even more annoying is that Sam's family were actually deserving of what happened to them, were given multiple opportunities (that neither of the other two examples were given) to keep their lives and titles, and still refused. Fuck them and fuck Sam. Always hated every bit of his story, and fighting to keep awake through most of it.
Accurate.
She didn't need to kill both of them at the same time. She coulda killed the dad first and given the son a chance to see the error of his ways.
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Anyone that nutty to refuse even their own dad telling them to not needlessly die along with them, would absolutely stab you in the back the moment they had an opportunity. Dickon would be a seething ball of hate that would either need to be locked in a dungeon forever, or be kept under watch. The other option would have been to send him to the wall, which they both refused. You don't keep dangerous people alive.
I'm guessing most have never seen this deleted scene of Pycelle and Tywin
It's a neat scene, but it was better off cut because it would have made no sense for Pycelle to go back to this fake-identity in fron of Tywin in subsequent meetings. Him stretching out and speaking with a different voice after banging a prostitute worked better.
It's a neat scene, but it was better off cut because it would have made no sense for Pycelle to go back to this fake-identity in fron of Tywin in subsequent meetings. Him stretching out and speaking with a different voice after banging a prostitute worked better.
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Bran Stark makes the Game of Thrones part irrelevant to the Starks. He was the key to beating Littlefinger. You really can't plot against the Starks when they have Bran on their side. He makes this piece of Littlefinger advice possible for them:
And Bran spends his free time viewing different timelines as if he were the Kwisatz Haderach. He knows almost everything that's coming
And then there's Arya's ultimate assassin skills. Arya brought down House Frey by herself. She can bring other antagonistic houses down too through subterfuge.
Basically, they're pretty much unstoppable.
Honestly, a Stark victory and control over Westeros seems to be where we're headed. It's not like any of the current Starks aside from Jon are anything like Ned Stark nor do they rule like Ned Stark. Is Arya an honor-obsessed idiot? Is Sansa? Is Bran? No.
Yup. Absolutely hate that scene now because instead of people hating how absolutely insanely stupid the Tarly's are, "Fuck the future of our house let's die together Dad"/ Papa Tarly not clocking his son in the face or pleading with Dany to restrain his son so as not to doom the future of his house... we get DANY IS A MONSTER JUST LIKE HER DAD. Just nonsense
Kneel to me or die. You have already betrayed your lords. Think of your family
Fuck that
Perhaps you could send them to the wall, your grace?
Get fucked, bitch!
Yeah, kill me too! I'd rather fucking die than follow you or go to the wall.
Welp, dracarys
OMGdaeneryshowcouldyouyouresocrueljustlikeyourcrazydadjonstheonlytruekingOMG
Fuck that
Perhaps you could send them to the wall, your grace?
Get fucked, bitch!
Yeah, kill me too! I'd rather fucking die than follow you or go to the wall.
Welp, dracarys
OMGdaeneryshowcouldyouyouresocrueljustlikeyourcrazydadjonstheonlytruekingOMG
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Of course you can plot against them. Bran can see things, but he still can't stop an army if it were hellbent on taking or destroying Winterfell. It remains unclear to what extent Bran really wants to participate in Westeros power grabs.
Maybe Daenerys will decide to give up the throne, and try to settle for a simpler life. A cottage with a red door, lemon trees, and grass to walk in barefoot.
Then Jon will give up the crown to... stand outside in the snow? What does he like to do?
Then power couple Sansa and Tyrion take over and make sure there's enough grain and wine for everyone and every character from every game, comic, cartoon, TV show, movie, and book reality come in with everything for a HUGE party.
Then Jon will give up the crown to... stand outside in the snow? What does he like to do?
Then power couple Sansa and Tyrion take over and make sure there's enough grain and wine for everyone and every character from every game, comic, cartoon, TV show, movie, and book reality come in with everything for a HUGE party.
Bran Stark makes the Game of Thrones part irrelevant to the Starks. He was the key to beating Littlefinger. You really can't plot against the Starks when they have Bran on their side. He makes this piece of Littlefinger advice possible for them:
And Bran spends his free time viewing different timelines as if he were the Kwisatz Haderach. He knows almost everything that's coming
And then there's Arya's ultimate assassin skills. Arya brought down House Frey by herself. She can bring other antagonistic houses down too through subterfuge.
Basically, they're pretty much unstoppable.
Honestly, a Stark victory and control over Westeros seems to be where we're headed. It's not like any of the current Starks aside from Jon are anything like Ned Stark nor do they rule like Ned Stark. Is Arya an honor-obsessed idiot? Is Sansa? Is Bran? No.
Bran is a wizard. Arya a super assassin. Jon a dragon king. What is Sansa's power? Manipulative liar? I can only see her as Littlefinger's heir.
In the books, there's a Sand Snake in Oldtown studying as a maester and disguised as a man named Alleras/Sarella. Could have given us another named Dornish character while making Sam's time there slightly more interesting so it was a shame they didn't go that route.
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Logistics and management. Turns out those are more preferable skills in a ruler, rather than dragon kings and psychotic children who know kung fu.
Bran Stark makes the Game of Thrones part irrelevant to the Starks. He was the key to beating Littlefinger. You really can't plot against the Starks when they have Bran on their side. He makes this piece of Littlefinger advice possible for them:
And Bran spends his free time viewing different timelines as if he were the Kwisatz Haderach. He knows almost everything that's coming
And then there's Arya's ultimate assassin skills. Arya brought down House Frey by herself. She can bring other antagonistic houses down too through subterfuge.
Basically, they're pretty much unstoppable.
Honestly, a Stark victory and control over Westeros seems to be where we're headed. It's not like any of the current Starks aside from Jon are anything like Ned Stark nor do they rule like Ned Stark. Is Arya an honor-obsessed idiot? Is Sansa? Is Bran? No.
So you think it's best for the realm to be ruled by a LF protege who hides strategic life saving information from her own family because she doesn't trust them, the freaking terminator, and a dead eyed cripple playing at being Professor X? What happens if Bran is dead at the end? I honestly think Bran only helped them that time due to LF posing a threat to the family. I don't believe that Bran is interested in regime building for the Starks.
People like to claim that the Tarly's were right in choosing to stand with Cersei over Olenna's rebellion, but there's already precedent in the show as to what is expected of a bannerman when their liege is captured or murdered. Robb Stark had every Stark bannerman called for when Ned was arrested, and told his maestor that they were all honorbound to protect and fight for his father. What the Tarlys did would be like if the Karstarks disobeyed that command and sided with King Jof.
According to GRRM, Sansa is Littlefinger's heir.
The show doesn't know how to present a smart Sansa so they just repeatedly tell you that she's smart.
How am I meant to feed the greatest army the world has ever seen?
"The Dothraki and Unsullied are cannibals. They ate on the way."
What do you guys think of Night King capturing Dany's dragons, defeating Dany, the humans and effectively becoming the ruler of Westeros like he wants? The surviving humans, Jon Snow, Jaime, Bronn, Mountain, etc all flee to Essos in the ships Yara has and that ends the whole "Battle of Five Kings" drama. The next stage is set for Jon Snow and others forming alliances in Essos and trying to overthrow the Night King and his zombies.
This is one of the only issues I have with the show. They've done a terrible job at making Sansa good at anything. She constantly shits on Jon's plans and ideas without ever offering an alternative. She didn't mention the Vale to Jon but when she brings the army we're expected to give her credit for something she barely had to think about.
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