But how are those actions the people's fault? It'd be like America invading Mexico and committing genocide because some Mexican politicians tried to assassinate their president.
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Game of Thrones S8, Apr 14-May 19 @9PM EDT |OT| Aunt-Man and the Frost
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But how are those actions the people's fault? It'd be like America invading Mexico and committing genocide because some Mexican politicians tried to assassinate their president.
The problem though is you can't on the one hand act like Dany's family name is a hinderance for her in Westeros, and then turn around and go "but it's going to work out for Jon." When a kingdom is in chaos might makes right. Rightful heir means nothing if you can't take the seat of power. Why shouldn't the Dornish claim KL? Or any of the other major houses left? Hell what's stopping a minor house under the Lannister's from rising up and filling the vacuum left from their demise? Unless the Northeners can go south and conquer the entirety of the continent, what ever claims they make for Jon means nothing. The North barely has a 1000 men to put together to form an actual army.
I'm with you. It's not like Jaime became Lord of Casterly Rock once he got fired from the Kingsguard. Cersei is still the Lady of Casterly Rock.
That's such a weird homage if that's the case. Also is there four dragons on the final mural?
He's got a dragon now. and Bran too along with the Vale and connections to the Riverlands if they restore Edmure to it and the Stormlands if Jon decides to legitimize Gendry.
And it helps that Jon is the son of popular prince, Rhaegar, versus Daenerys being the daughter of the hated Mad King.
Someone posted a link earlier that said they wanted a mural for each of the series seminal events: the fall of the wall, the Red Wedding, and the birth of the Dragons.
Jesus, I never actually thought about this. Jaime getting out of the Kingsguard didn't remove the titles Cersei legitimately got due to Jaime not being in the succession at the time.
I'm almost confident that Dany is still the legitimate Targ monarch due to the lawful manner in which she inherited the title; Jon in the watch and Visarys being dead. At best Jon gets his title back but he succeeds and doesn't usurp her. That should still require a King/Queen to restore said titles though, and considering he no longer is even KitN, he can't even restore his titles himself. Because otherwise it makes zero sense. Like if Dany managed to conquer Westeros before Jon was resurrected, and was now Queen of the Iron Throne, Jon coming back wouldn't strip her of the crown. Her ascension would have already been secured lawfully.
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It'd be funny if he makes these himself because he fancies being like an artist in a very edgy/taboo medium.
Arm-y of the dead
Night King making dad jokes
"Hmmm... more arms. Get me more arms! Yes, good. A bit more blood spatter here..."
the only verified leaked content was the contents of this episode. that's literally it. The source that leaked it (friki) is now done after being threatened by HBO.
other than that theres a few plot tidbits which are questionable at best.
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As Varys says (played back conveniently before this episode), "Power is an illusion. It resides where men believe it resides."
Jon shouldn't have had any titles anyway since he was a bastard. The northerners just stood behind him.
dragon scene was boring as hell, I guess it's good they got that out of the way first but man that scene was corny lol
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If Jon doesn't die I hope he walks away from Winterfell and become a blacksmith or something anonymously somewhere else.
She didn't inherit anything. She is making a claim based on her inheritance, but she doesn't actually sit the iron throne. It just throws a wrench into her entire "mine by birthright", when it isn't hers by birthright.
Anyways it isn't about claims, it's about who wins the war, Jon has the better claim, this is going to matter, regardless of how much you'd rather it didn't. They wouldn't have brought it up if it didn't matter.
It's funny because i didnt know it was Jorah when i remembered the clip about the blacksmith and yet, it all fit perfectly.
Not sure why people want Jon to ride Rhaegal into battle, beyond the fact that it would look cool. The dragons do just fine on their own without someone steering them.
Yup.
Only part of the episode I absolutely hated (well that and the quippy dialogue and ball jokes but I digress).I hate hate hate the idea that Dany would let Jon, a non Targ ride her dragon, and then wouldn't even be surprised that he can ride it. It's unbelievably out of character...
Did they really fuck on that frozen ground ? That doesn't sound comfy
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it also really doesn't matter in the end because Jon will deny the throne even though he has the better claim. He has never shown an interest in ruling.
I'm thinking he'll die sacrificing himself to kill one undead general. There's what, 5-6 of them + night king ?
I mean...
he sacrifices himself to resurrect someone in the books...
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There was apparently 13 that showed up to see Craster's son get touched
He'll do what it takes to save the realm, if that means taking the crown he will.
This thread is going as expected with people calling Dany crazy bitch, evil and whatever for things that they would gladly except if Ned, Robb, Jon or whoever would have done them. This is a cruel fucked up world - Dany burning people who are fighting against her and not willing to bend the knee, after defeat.....will get burned.
The series always has been about power - dragons are power, when used correctly. Danys weapons are her Dragons and not some some Greatsword - everyone uses their weapons to kill their enemies in this show.
Considering what she is capable off she is actually quite laid-back. Imagine if Cersei or other past Kings/Lords had access to that kind of power.
Overall solid episode to get things going - really enjoyed Jon x Arya reuniting.
Sams reaction to Dany telling him she killed/burned his fam seems a bit forced considering the relationship they had and that Dany gave them a way out.
The series always has been about power - dragons are power, when used correctly. Danys weapons are her Dragons and not some some Greatsword - everyone uses their weapons to kill their enemies in this show.
Considering what she is capable off she is actually quite laid-back. Imagine if Cersei or other past Kings/Lords had access to that kind of power.
Overall solid episode to get things going - really enjoyed Jon x Arya reuniting.
Sams reaction to Dany telling him she killed/burned his fam seems a bit forced considering the relationship they had and that Dany gave them a way out.
Yeah I know, I'm thinking the show just says fuck it and makes him inexplicably survive all the way to the end since that plotline isnt happening
But he also believes Dany is a better ruler than he is. If he didn't believe in her he wouldn't have bent the knee. Also "saving the realm" has nothing to do with whom sits on the throne, most of that will be wrapped up after the battle in EP3. Then there is just Cersei.
Really enjoyed the episode, but I need to know more about the WW, what does that symbol on the wall mean? It was shown in the first episode of the show and many more times.
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