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UsoEwin

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I crack up every fucking time Beric sets his sword on fire because I can't not think of him doing a Dark Souls fire buff
 

RatskyWatsky

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Keeping the episode titles a secret until after the episode airs is dumb. Like, tonight's episode was titled "Winterfell" - what would have changed if we knew that 2 months ago? Literally nothing.
 

Umbrella Carp

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This rivalry between Dany and Sansa is shaping to be a real wildcard. They really do look like they detest each other. Littlefinger's political scheming has well and truly rubbed off on Sansa, whether she knows it or not. Cersei bribing Bronn to kill Tyrion and Jaime is also interesting, though I doubt he's gonna go through with it.

Speaking of Cersei, her prostituting herself to Euron is probably not gonna sit well with some, although it totally fits into her characters mould. I suspect Yara taking off to the Iron Isles is the last we'll see of her. It seems like a decent enough way to tie off that string. This is just a prediction but Theon is totally dying a heroic death in the North as a sort of massive redemption story for his whole arc.

I'm interested to see if knowledge of his true lineage is going to fire up Jon's personal ambitions. It would be out of character, but if Sansa and Arya find out, they'll definitely be pushing him to challenge Dany's claim. If Dany pushes back, which is likely, I think the in-fighting of the "living" side strongly hints at the Night King winning the whole thing. Again, just a prediction though.

Overall a pretty good opening episode.
 

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Oh yeah Sansa is a fucking idiot and all that bullshit in the episode was tiring. Mate there's fucking ancient zombies descending on you and all you care about is KING IN DA NORF
 

Fliesen

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Yeah, at first i was like "whoa, nothing's really happened, and we're 1/6 into the season already".

Though, then again, pretty much most of last season's revelations and secrets have been communicated among the characters. Like:
* The Northerners kinda know that Cersei is not coming to help
* Jon knows about his past
* Sam knows about his family
* They know the wall's gone down

Like, i'm with Bran being all like "Ain't nobody got time for this..."

Now if only they can quickly get rid of all that infighting amongst the Northerners ...
 

Radec

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it also really doesn't matter in the end because Jon will deny the throne even though he has the better claim. He has never shown an interest in ruling.

He's gonna go with it after the war when everyone is kneeling before him.

Like what happened when he became Lord Commander, then King in the North
 

jdstorm

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Because they were preparing for a battle and they needed all of the help they could get?

Because Northmen's lives were on the line?

Because their brother's life was on the line?

Sansa is just as stupid as Jon is. She's not some master strategist play maker. Her keeping this to herself is stupid. Her pulling it out at the last second is stupid.

Ned was preparing for battle and needed all the help he could get too. So he asked Littlefinger....

It didn't work out so well for him
 

Sinder

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Jul 24, 2018
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That girl already figured out how to kill everyone at that table and how much poison she needs to stuff into a sheep to kill a dragon.



I love how casual it is when he does it now.

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Maneil99

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He's gonna go with it after the war when everyone is kneeling before him.

Like what happened when he became Lord Commander, then King in the North
He's going to realize when Dany throws a tantrum next episode and leaves Winterfell with her dragons that she isn't a good ruler. That he must do what is required of him.
 

Gamer @ Heart

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Jaime Lannister with a beard is what I want to be most in life.

Did this episode pull 4 separate, sudden pan/focus to mysterious bran states? It felt so ridiculous
 

Umbrella Carp

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Another thing I'm purely speculating about, Cersei is clearly barely hanging on to her already precarious mental state. She sees the Undead invasion as a good thing for her when it definitely isn't, and she has ratified Bronn knocking off her brothers including Jaime who she loves/loved. Her miscarrying her baby might be the catalyst for her finally going right off the edge.
 
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This rivalry between Dany and Sansa is shaping to be a real wildcard. They really do look like they detest each other. Littlefinger's political scheming has well and truly rubbed off on Sansa, whether she knows it or not. Cersei bribing Bronn to kill Tyrion and Jaime is also interesting, though I doubt he's gonna go through with it.
Cersei bribing Bronn was just silly. What is his response? "First off, you already owe me at least one castle. Second off, they're the only Lannisters I like." I could not think of a worse possible assassin then someone who is not only a friend, but someone who owes their fortune and success, to the people you've asked them to kill. That's a stupid fucking plan any way you look at it.
 

Umbrella Carp

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Cersei bribing Bronn was just silly. What is his response? "First off, you already owe me at least one castle. Second off, they're the only Lannisters I like." I could not think of a worse possible assassin then someone who is not only a friend, but someone who owes their fortune and success, to the people you've asked them to kill. That's a stupid fucking plan any way you look at it.

Probably, but I can see the logic from her perspective. She assumes that since both Tyrion and Jaime trust Bronn, that allows him to get in real close to knock them off. But yeah I'm with you, I can't see him doing it. He has the gold already, he can just head north and wait out the war, because in his shoes you would have to be thinking that Cersei is done for anyway.
 

papertowel

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The lack of dire wolves makes me wish they just kept them as dogs instead of making them giant CGI wolves. I get it, they're dire wolves and are supposed to be massive, but I miss them
 

Hydrus

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I don't think we'll get another Jon/ Dany sex scene. I thought for sure there would be one after they make up. You know, to "shock" the audience and gross them out again. But now I'm not so sure. This season just gives off the vibe that they don't want to do sex scenes. I'm mean they didn't even show cersei/ euruon. Actors are probably done with nudity and sex
 

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I don't think we'll get another Jon/ Dany sex scene. I thought for sure there would be one after they make up. You know, to "shock" the audience and gross them out again. But now I'm not so sure. This season just gives off the vibe that they don't want to do sex scenes. I'm mean they didn't even show cersei/ euruon. Actors are probably done with nudity and sex
cue next episode opens with a close up dick shot
 

Sinder

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I don't think we'll get another Jon/ Dany sex scene. I thought for sure there would be one after they make up. You know, to "shock" the audience and gross them out again. But now I'm not so sure. This season just gives off the vibe that they don't want to do sex scenes. I'm mean they didn't even show cersei/ euruon. Actors are probably done with nudity and sex

I won't accept this.
 

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Looking really forward to Sapcohniks episodes, especially the batle episode (I assume episode 3?). His directing is just bangers. Battle of the Bastards may not be the best written episode in the show, but the directing is a masterpiece.

Fun fact: The shield wall (when they were trapped) was Sapochniks idea, D&D had another idea, but Sapochnik didn't have enough time, so they trusted him and he went with the shield wall, not sure if Jon being trampled was also his idea. Can't wait to see what he has come up with this time with many more weeks of shooting compared to BotB.
 

Lunar Wolf

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This thread is going as expected with people calling Dany crazy bitch, evil and whatever for things that they would gladly except if Ned, Robb, Jon or whoever would have done them. This is a cruel fucked up world - Dany burning people who are fighting against her and not willing to bend the knee, after defeat.....will get burned.

The series always has been about power - dragons are power, when used correctly. Danys weapons are her Dragons and not some some Greatsword - everyone uses their weapons to kill their enemies in this show.

Considering what she is capable off she is actually quite laid-back. Imagine if Cersei or other past Kings/Lords had access to that kind of power.

Overall solid episode to get things going - really enjoyed Jon x Arya reuniting.
Sams reaction to Dany telling him she killed/burned his fam seems a bit forced considering the relationship they had and that Dany gave them a way out.

Sam's relationship with his brother was fine. Also, Dany told them to bend the knee or die. She's kinda murdering prisoners of war.
 

Umbrella Carp

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I don't think we'll get another Jon/ Dany sex scene. I thought for sure there would be one after they make up. You know, to "shock" the audience and gross them out again. But now I'm not so sure. This season just gives off the vibe that they don't want to do sex scenes. I'm mean they didn't even show cersei/ euruon. Actors are probably done with nudity and sex

Really? That scene with Bronn and the prostitutes was pretty full on

Also side note, massive respect to Dany for being upfront with Samwell about his father and brother. She could have just kept her mouth shut and noone would have batted an eye, but she told him straight to his face, probably to her own detriment in the long run.
 

Fliesen

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Kept her dog on it's leash for the time being and gave her a king to point to as the father of her child.

Yup. He's her "beard" King. Once the Iron Fleet isn't needed anymore because the Golden company is stationed on Westeros, she can have him killed any time she wants. From a strategic point of view, he's kind of a glorified Uber driver, basically.

Probably, but I can see the logic from her perspective. She assumes that since both Tyrion and Jaime trust Bronn, that allows him to get in real close to knock them off. But yeah I'm with you, I can't see him doing it. He has the gold already, he can just head north and wait out the war, because in his shoes you would have to be thinking that Cersei is done for anyway.

Yeah, i'm not a fan of this Chekhov's Crossbow ... Also, Bronn mostly looks out for himself - and i believe he's smart enough to know that a castle won't do no good on a continent overrun by the dead.
The money, on the other hand, would be really helpful when moving to Essos for retirement.

Sam's relationship with his brother was fine. Also, Dany told them to bend the knee or die. She's kinda murdering prisoners of war.

This. She didn't kill them in battle. She brutally executed them because they didn't want to bend the knee.
Jon didn't bend the knee initially, and he gets to ride freaking Dragons with her.
 

cw_sasuke

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Sam's relationship with his brother was fine. Also, Dany told them to bend the knee or die. She's kinda murdering prisoners of war.
She is killing people who were trying to kill her and her dragons just second before.
Bending the knee would still make them prisoners - they refusing means that they are still opposing her...of course they are gonna get killed. We have been in a non-stop war for most of this show and people wanna paint Dany as some kind of crazy savage after events like the Red Wedding. Ramsey and co. ?

Sams relationship with his brother means its okay for him to be sad, pissed and all - but blaming Dany and trying to to mess up the Jon x Dany alliance that will likely save the day for it seems weird. His brother/father dont survive the encounter against 99% of rulers after that battle if they dont bend the knee. They just betrayed their liege lords...do people really think anyone would trust them if they didnt bend the knee ? Doesnt make any sense.

They chose death.
 

Isee

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Oct 25, 2017
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Actors are probably done with nudity and sex

And so am I. They used nudity to hold peoples attentions during exposition so often that nudity became boring in this show. We are living in a world where porn is always one click away, I never understood why nude actors were such a big deal in the first place.
Nudity for the sake of nudity is getting a bit tiresome. If it makes sense to the story or is a key plot component, sure but I don't need tits and asses to keep me interested in a show about dragons, political intrigue, magic, battles etc
 

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Cersei bribing Bronn was just silly. What is his response? "First off, you already owe me at least one castle. Second off, they're the only Lannisters I like." I could not think of a worse possible assassin then someone who is not only a friend, but someone who owes their fortune and success, to the people you've asked them to kill. That's a stupid fucking plan any way you look at it.

I think its more like, Bronn no longer has any allies and Cersei isn't someone you just cross
 

R0987

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Jan 20, 2018
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Is anyone else slighty dissapointed with NK's 'message'? When leaks came out the night king will leave a message for the living I was thinking more along lines of an literal message explaining his motivation (even if it just a name scribbeled on a wall) not this display of 'art' as it turned out to be.
 
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