The Night King isn't even a thing in the booksSo their barely in the books?
Also upon further thought. What if the spiral design the umber boy was impaled too was the Night Kings sigil. A way to identify himself.
The Night King isn't even a thing in the booksSo their barely in the books?
Also upon further thought. What if the spiral design the umber boy was impaled too was the Night Kings sigil. A way to identify himself.
It won't happen but I'd kinda love to see how Euron would react to Bran.
lolEuron would insult Bran for being a little crippled man that can't use his cock. He'd probably come up with some nickname like "puny wolfling."
Bran: Cersei looked so beautiful that night you failed to bring the elephants to her.
this actually feels like massive spoilers, I'm shocked he was so revealing
I think he was being more direct than people realize, I'm almost positive there will be time travel shenanigans again now
I think this basically confirms to me that the Lord of Light and Bran are either the same person or are the same role.
And the Night King is the equivalent of the Great Other.
Also, Jon didn't actually die in the books, his body died, but his mind didn't, so he may change, but I doubt it's super major because they don't have to actually resurrect him, just his body.Been dead for 8 years, and his stabbing by his fellow brothers was actually justified instead of the nonsense in the show. Jon actually earned his stabbing in the books. He fully broke his vows to the NW and declared treason
It should be noted, that the BIG thing us book watchers want to know is how Jon will change upon being resurrected. In the show, there doesn't seem to be a lick of difference and no one really seems to care despite this guy rising from the dead. I HIGHLY doubt Book Jon being resurrected will be exactly the same as he was before he was stabbed to death.
Then you also have the prologue chapter that describes what happens when a warg dies and leaves his body, it is pretty clear that Jon warged into ghost right before he died."Jon fell to his knees. He found the dagger's hilt and wrenched it free. In the cold night air the wound was smoking. "Ghost," he whispered. Pain washed over him. Stick them with the pointy end. When the third dagger took him between the shoulder blades, he gave a grunt and fell face-first into the snow. He never felt the fourth knife. Only the cold …"
That content wasn't... bad, exactly, but I feel it's overrated because it grossly whitewashes Tywin.Also as a reminder all of the Arya/Tywin stuff which is some of the best content on the show - that is from D&D not GRRM
See above. The show omitting that part of the story really waters down Tyrion's story and character development.She was a sex worker on the show. Tysha's not being brought up again so I have no clue why you think it would be otherwise.
Especially physically...
I did not like show-Osha much either tbh. The show completely squandered and disrespected her character. Gotta love how in the books she convinces Theon that she's on his side by being a badass warrior, but in the show... gotta show them titties (and perfectly trimmed bush despite being a "wildling" because of-fucking-course).
The show has whitewashed pretty much every character. Tywin is actually pretty mild compared to how they whitewashed Tyrion, Jon, Dany etc.That content wasn't... bad, exactly, but I feel it's overrated because it grossly whitewashes Tywin.
Tywin is a monster, and him being all cool dad with Arya is some nonsense.
In addition to that, Tywin is further whitewashed when they omitted the full context of the story with Tyrion and Tysha:
Tysha wasn't a sex worker who was doing an act; she was a real crofter's daughter who was really in love with Tyrion. The show not only omitted the part where Tywin had Tyrion go last on her after giving her to his guards (and paid her a gold coin because "Lannisters pay in gold") but they omitted the very fact that she was genuinely in love with Tyrion and that she married him willingly, which is the primary motivation for Tyrion to go kill Tywin.
"Wherever whores go." twang
So yeah, I have no fondness for a few scenes that made Tywin so darn likeable. Tywin should be hated and despised.
See above. The show omitting that part of the story really waters down Tyrion's story and character development.
Especially physically...
I did not like show-Osha much either tbh. The show completely squandered and disrespected her character. Gotta love how in the books she convinces Theon that she's on his side by being a badass warrior, but in the show... gotta show them titties (and perfectly trimmed bush despite being a "wildling" because of-fucking-course).
That we know of.
True, but I do feel that he is a D&D invention to give more an "ultimate villain" for the show.
The show has whitewashed pretty much every character. Tywin is actually pretty mild compared to how they whitewashed Tyrion, Jon, Dany etc.
True, but I do feel that he is a D&D invention to give more an "ultimate villain" for the show.
I more mean I am sure the night king specifically is show only, but I don't believe that the Show runners would stray too far from the idea that the Children created the others to fight the men and the first one would become their leader.D & D confirmed a couple weeks ago that he's show-only in an interview.
Stannis is only worse in the show because of burning Shireen, but didn't GRRM basically say that, that is happening in the books as well?I think Ellaria, Stannis and Jaime are the only three characters that are worse people on the show.
I actually remember this from the show, if memory serves it was one of the scene where Tyrion was in jail. Jamie told him I think.That content wasn't... bad, exactly, but I feel it's overrated because it grossly whitewashes Tywin.
Tywin is a monster, and him being all cool dad with Arya is some nonsense.
In addition to that, Tywin is further whitewashed when they omitted the full context of the story with Tyrion and Tysha:
Tysha wasn't a sex worker who was doing an act; she was a real crofter's daughter who was really in love with Tyrion. The show not only omitted the part where Tywin had Tyrion go last on her after giving her to his guards (and paid her a gold coin because "Lannisters pay in gold") but they omitted the very fact that she was genuinely in love with Tyrion and that she married him willingly, which is the primary motivation for Tyrion to go kill Tywin.
"Wherever whores go." twang
I think Ellaria, Stannis and Jaime are the only three characters that are worse people on the show.
If it happens soon it can't have his consent as he is not the wall and if he involved that means he beats the boltons and burns her agianst either euron, or dany or the othersStannis is only worse in the show because of burning Shireen, but didn't GRRM basically say that, that is happening in the books as well?
Stannis is only worse in the show because of burning Shireen, but didn't GRRM basically say that, that is happening in the books as well?
No, he didn't. In the books he did, but in the show he told him some stupid made up story about a beetle crusher.I actually remember this from the show, if memory serves it was one of the scene where Tyrion was in jail. Jamie told him I think.
Tyrion definitely, but how were Jon and Dany whitewashed exactly? If anything show-Dany is less likeable lolThe show has whitewashed pretty much every character. Tywin is actually pretty mild compared to how they whitewashed Tyrion, Jon, Dany etc.
I think Ellaria, Stannis and Jaime are the only three characters that are worse people on the show.
I could have sworn this came up during the show. I don't read the books and I avoid book spoiler stuff like the plague, so where the hell did I hear about it...No, he didn't. In the books he did, but in the show he told him some stupid made up story about a beetle crusher.
Fuck I forgot how bad they botched this scene. Easily one of the most powerful scene in the series and.... fuck I hate D&D so muchNo, he didn't. In the books he did, but in the show he told him some stupid made up story about a beetle crusher.
Dany is shown to be completely power hungry in the books, the show, they've tried kinda to show that, but not really. Jon literally betrayed the NW in the books...Tyrion definitely, but how were Jon and Dany whitewashed exactly? If anything show-Dany is less likeable lol
I'd argue the Tysha situation is the worst thing show or book Jamie has ever done. Why do you think he's a worse person on the show? And you could argue Show Cercei is worse considering she blew up the Sept. Also, show Alister Thorne like Jon Snow.
But yeah, most characters are whitewashed on the show. I think show watchers would be shocked at how monstrous Tyrion has become. He's Tywin writ small.
She also gave us the "Myrish swamp"...I mean Show! Jaime killed his cousin and explicitly raped Cersei out of anger. That's why I see him as worse.
Remember that Book Cersei had some noble lady lobotomized and tortured because she was annoying her. She's also the one that had a baby killed. Robert's bastard baby girl.
Dany is shown to be completely power hungry in the books, the show, they've tried kinda to show that, but not really. Jon literally betrayed the NW in the books...
If she had been some ordinary woman, she would gladly have spent her whole life touching Daario, tracing his scars and making him tell her how he'd come by every one. I would give up my crown if he asked it of me, Dany thought … but he had not asked it, and never would. Daario might whisper words of love when the two of them were as one, but she knew it was the dragon queen he loved. If I gave up my crown, he would not want me. Besides, kings who lost their crowns oft lost their heads as well, and she could see no reason why it would be any different for a queen.
"We will have it all back someday, sweet sister," he would promise her. Sometimes his hands shook when he talked about it. "The jewels and the silks, Dragonstone and King's Landing, the Iron Throne and the Seven Kingdoms, all they have taken from us, we will have it back." Viserys lived for that day. All that Daenerys wanted back was the big house with the red door, the lemon tree outside her window, the childhood she had never known.
After the dragon pits, she decided to go full fire and blood.Nah, Dany isn't power-hungry. She's entitled, sure, but she would let it all go for love. It's not the crown she wants more than anything else. It's a home and to be happy.
Tyrion describes what happens to her in season 1, but she is never mentioned after the first season.I could have sworn this came up during the show. I don't read the books and I avoid book spoiler stuff like the plague, so where the hell did I hear about it...
Fuck I forgot how bad they botched this scene. Easily one of the most powerful scene in the series and.... fuck I hate D&D so much
Stannis is only worse in the show because of burning Shireen, but didn't GRRM basically say that, that is happening in the books as well?
Its just a video going over the events of the show in a sort of cynical way. Its his schtick but its really funnyCan you give a shortsentence summary on what the video is about
idk what it is you are posting all you say is I love this guy.
Shireen supposedly gets burned but we have no idea how, and its logistically impossible for it to go down as it did in the show any time soon via the books. GRRM doesn't do fast travel bullshit, Shireen is in Winterfell, and Stannis is about to march on Ramsay.
But if it actually is for sure that Shireen dies like that in the books it wouldn't make any sense for Stannis to die in the battle coming up, and there's no way he waits long enough for Melisandre to come down from Winterfell with Shireen while all of his men starve in that camp. The battle should be one of the very first things that happen in TWoW.
What's the outlook on Stannis vs Ramsay in the books?
He gonna job to Ramsay?
I don't think I agree with this. Jon arguably just defends the NW against Ramsay's threats (Ramsay threatened the NW and the LC first). I know it can be also argued he broke his oath (that's the motivation for the mutiny, not just the wildling thing), but it's hardly some dark sin that makes Jon a darker or nastier character. The motivations behind the mutiny are different, but it's not because Jon is a morally worse character in the books.Dany is shown to be completely power hungry in the books, the show, they've tried kinda to show that, but not really. Jon literally betrayed the NW in the books...
Huh? Shireen is at Castle Black, not Winterfell.GRRM doesn't do fast travel bullshit, Shireen is in Winterfell, and Stannis is about to march on Ramsay.
I don't think I agree with this. Jon arguably just defends the NW against Ramsay's threats (Ramsay threatened the NW and the LC first). I know it can be also argued he broke his oath (that's the motivation for the mutiny, not just the wildling thing), but it's hardly some dark sin that makes Jon a darker or nastier character. The motivations behind the mutiny are different, but it's not because Jon is a morally worse character in the books.
Huh? Shireen is at Castle Black, not Winterfell.
No worries, I hate when that happens!You're right, my bad. I was thinking Castle Black but my dumb mind said Winterfell lol.
The show's biggest sin was getting rid of Stannis' sense of humor
Renly: "You'll be pleased to know she came to me a maid."
Stannis: "In your bed she's like to die that way."
Asha (Yara): "Your Grace's royal brother was renowned for turning fallen foes into friend. Make me your man."
Stannis: "The gods did not make you a man. How can I?"
Stannis talking about Gilly: "Her own father got this child on her? We are well rid of her, then. I will not suffer such abominations here. This is not King's Landing."
And my favorite: "Half my army is made up of unbelievers. I will have no burnings. Pray harder."
What's the outlook on Stannis vs Ramsay in the books?
He gonna job to Ramsay?
Doesn't make much sense for Isaac to say Bran probably doesn't care about Jaime's arrival when he said he was waiting for an old friend...
He doesn't emotionally care about getting vengeance against Jaime. He's probably waiting there for him so a certain future happens.