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Game of Thrones S8, Apr 14-May 19 @9PM EDT |OT| Aunt-Man and the Frost
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Euron would insult Bran for being a little crippled man that can't use his cock. He'd probably come up with some nickname like "puny wolfling."
Bran: Cersei looked so beautiful that night you failed to bring the elephants to her.
Yeah the "intersecting timelines" thing... Maybe he's been screwing around over and over and over again with how things unfold trying to course-correct.
Imagine if at the end he goes back in time and makes Ned believe the guy who fled from the Night Watch.
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"Is it true he saw the white walkers?"
"The white walkers have been gone for thousands of years."
"So he was a liar?"
"A mad man sees what he sees."
Can you imagine if we get a scene where Bran meets Varys. And Bran speaks to him. And tells him the same thing Varys heard from the flame. And the Lord of Light tune starts to play?
Also, Jon didn't actually die in the books, his body died, but his mind didn't, so he may change, but I doubt it's super major because they don't have to actually resurrect him, just his body.
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Then you also have the prologue chapter that describes what happens when a warg dies and leaves his body, it is pretty clear that Jon warged into ghost right before he died.
I feel like the show tried to show this with how Ghost was acting, but they never established that he was a warg, so it fell flat.
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That content wasn't... bad, exactly, but I feel it's overrated because it grossly whitewashes Tywin.
Tywin is a monster, and him being all cool dad with Arya is some nonsense.
In addition to that, Tywin is further whitewashed when they omitted the full context of the story with Tyrion and Tysha:
Tysha wasn't a sex worker who was doing an act; she was a real crofter's daughter who was really in love with Tyrion. The show not only omitted the part where Tywin had Tyrion go last on her after giving her to his guards (and paid her a gold coin because "Lannisters pay in gold") but they omitted the very fact that she was genuinely in love with Tyrion and that she married him willingly, which is the primary motivation for Tyrion to go kill Tywin.
"Wherever whores go." twang
So yeah, I have no fondness for a few scenes that made Tywin so darn likeable. Tywin should be hated and despised.
See above. The show omitting that part of the story really waters down Tyrion's story and character development.
Especially physically...
I did not like show-Osha much either tbh. The show completely squandered and disrespected her character. Gotta love how in the books she convinces Theon that she's on his side by being a badass warrior, but in the show... gotta show them titties (and perfectly trimmed bush despite being a "wildling" because of-fucking-course).
The show has whitewashed pretty much every character. Tywin is actually pretty mild compared to how they whitewashed Tyrion, Jon, Dany etc.
True, but I do feel that he is a D&D invention to give more an "ultimate villain" for the show.
I think Ellaria, Stannis and Jaime are the only three characters that are worse people on the show.
D & D confirmed a couple weeks ago that he's show-only in an interview.
I more mean I am sure the night king specifically is show only, but I don't believe that the Show runners would stray too far from the idea that the Children created the others to fight the men and the first one would become their leader.
Stannis is only worse in the show because of burning Shireen, but didn't GRRM basically say that, that is happening in the books as well?
I actually remember this from the show, if memory serves it was one of the scene where Tyrion was in jail. Jamie told him I think.
I don't know if I'd say Yara is worse, but she's certainly nothing like I imagined her. She's very hard and frankly "manish" In the show, they even make her a lesbian to further make her "one of the guys". I read her as a strong character with charisma and I just think they made her...boring. Haven't read it in a while, so it could've been obvious misinterpretation.
And now that I reread your post, I realize you mean worse in a totally different way. Whoops.
If it happens soon it can't have his consent as he is not the wall and if he involved that means he beats the boltons and burns her agianst either euron, or dany or the others
Nah, that's not why he's worse.
Book Stannis has to be convinced to burn his nephew.
Show Stannis has to be convinced not to burn him.
And then there's how they take Renly's death.
Book Stannis is torn up about it and Show Stannis is pretty casual about it.
No, he didn't. In the books he did, but in the show he told him some stupid made up story about a beetle crusher.
Maybe Bran going back and failing to change things over an over again is why they've weirdly apparently been stuck at a medieval technology level for thousands of years.
Tyrion definitely, but how were Jon and Dany whitewashed exactly? If anything show-Dany is less likeable lol
I'd argue the Tysha situation is the worst thing show or book Jamie has ever done. Why do you think he's a worse person on the show? And you could argue Show Cercei is worse considering she blew up the Sept. Also, show Alister Thorne like Jon Snow.
But yeah, most characters are whitewashed on the show. I think show watchers would be shocked at how monstrous Tyrion has become. He's Tywin writ small.
I could have sworn this came up during the show. I don't read the books and I avoid book spoiler stuff like the plague, so where the hell did I hear about it...
Fuck I forgot how bad they botched this scene. Easily one of the most powerful scene in the series and.... fuck I hate D&D so much
Dany is shown to be completely power hungry in the books, the show, they've tried kinda to show that, but not really. Jon literally betrayed the NW in the books...
I mean Show! Jaime killed his cousin and explicitly raped Cersei out of anger. That's why I see him as worse.
Remember that Book Cersei had some noble lady lobotomized and tortured because she was annoying her. She's also the one that had a baby killed. Robert's bastard baby girl.
Nah, Dany isn't power-hungry. She's entitled, sure, but she would let it all go for love. It's not the crown she wants more than anything else. It's a home and to be happy.
After the dragon pits, she decided to go full fire and blood.
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Can you give a shortsentence summary on what the video is about
idk what it is you are posting all you say is I love this guy.
Tyrion describes what happens to her in season 1, but she is never mentioned after the first season.
It's always darkest before the dawn.
Yes, I expect her to go darker (as will Tyrion and Jon) in book 6 and the first half of book 7 then pull back after she sees the cost of it all.
Still, she's going to go through a similar arc as Stannis. Prove yourself a true queen by abandoning your quest for the throne and protect the realm.
Tbh, she's one of the more selfless characters in the series. And I'm not even a Dany-Stan.
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Shireen supposedly gets burned but we have no idea how, and its logistically impossible for it to go down as it did in the show any time soon via the books. GRRM doesn't do fast travel bullshit, Shireen is in Castle Black, and Stannis is about to march on Ramsay.
But if it actually is for sure that Shireen dies like that in the books it wouldn't make any sense for Stannis to die in the battle coming up, and there's no way he waits long enough for Melisandre to come down from Winterfell with Shireen while all of his men starve in that camp. The battle should be one of the very first things that happen in TWoW.
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Its just a video going over the events of the show in a sort of cynical way. Its his schtick but its really funny
In the books, it's possible that while Jon is dead, Selyse Baratheon believes that Stannis is defeated (the letter they get from Ramsay), and takes it upon her to do something about it, so she gets Shireen burned to "awaken the dragon out of stone". Selyse has grayscale, so she might think it ties in. But then it would be Jon who comes back to life.
There is of course the warnings form Val about Shireen, and Melisandre about Patchface. I suspect her greyscale reactivates when she freaks out or something and Patchface spreads it.
When Jon comes back to life, the place will have likely turned to shirt, with infighting with wildlings and grayscale on the loose.
Plus I wonder how Stannis would react to Shireen having been burned by his wife in his absence, and Jon being brought back to life by Melisandre who might now prefer Jon to Stannis.
There is of course the warnings form Val about Shireen, and Melisandre about Patchface. I suspect her greyscale reactivates when she freaks out or something and Patchface spreads it.
When Jon comes back to life, the place will have likely turned to shirt, with infighting with wildlings and grayscale on the loose.
Plus I wonder how Stannis would react to Shireen having been burned by his wife in his absence, and Jon being brought back to life by Melisandre who might now prefer Jon to Stannis.
What's the outlook on Stannis vs Ramsay in the books?
He gonna job to Ramsay?
Stannis probably beats him but his downfall comes as a result of everything he had to go through to win. The way its been built up especially with the recent excerpts of him finding out about the Karstark's is that he's going to outsmart Ramsay.
If Ramsay runs over him like he did in the show I'll eat my own hat. No way it resembles that in the slightest.
I don't think I agree with this. Jon arguably just defends the NW against Ramsay's threats (Ramsay threatened the NW and the LC first). I know it can be also argued he broke his oath (that's the motivation for the mutiny, not just the wildling thing), but it's hardly some dark sin that makes Jon a darker or nastier character. The motivations behind the mutiny are different, but it's not because Jon is a morally worse character in the books.
Huh? Shireen is at Castle Black, not Winterfell.
You're right, my bad. I was thinking Castle Black but my dumb mind said Winterfell lol.
Back when ADwD came out I always liked reading people's long ass military theories about the Stannis/Ramsay confrontation. Goes to show how much detail GRRM puts into his work that people would write huge essays boiling down the details of exactly what Stannis was doing from a medieval history context. It's kind of incredible.
The show's biggest sin was getting rid of Stannis' sense of humor
Renly: "You'll be pleased to know she came to me a maid."
Stannis: "In your bed she's like to die that way."
Asha (Yara): "Your Grace's royal brother was renowned for turning fallen foes into friend. Make me your man."
Stannis: "The gods did not make you a man. How can I?"
Stannis talking about Gilly: "Her own father got this child on her? We are well rid of her, then. I will not suffer such abominations here. This is not King's Landing."
And my favorite: "Half my army is made up of unbelievers. I will have no burnings. Pray harder."
Renly: "You'll be pleased to know she came to me a maid."
Stannis: "In your bed she's like to die that way."
Asha (Yara): "Your Grace's royal brother was renowned for turning fallen foes into friend. Make me your man."
Stannis: "The gods did not make you a man. How can I?"
Stannis talking about Gilly: "Her own father got this child on her? We are well rid of her, then. I will not suffer such abominations here. This is not King's Landing."
And my favorite: "Half my army is made up of unbelievers. I will have no burnings. Pray harder."
lol the last one is one of my favorite lines the entire series too
Doesn't make much sense for Isaac to say Bran probably doesn't care about Jaime's arrival when he said he was waiting for an old friend...
I think Stannis wins that batrle but will ultimately lose somewhere else, with how many players there are in the books, I think it may be to Aegon.
I think they sort of rolled Stannis into Jon on the show, how Jon built his army is similar what Stannis does-in that he has to convince northern lords and tribes.
He doesn't emotionally care about getting vengeance against Jaime. He's probably waiting there for him so a certain future happens.
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Promo pics for next episode seem to confirm that
Promo pics for next episode seem to confirm that
the jaime trial nonsense is wrapped up quickly as he's shown happily in armor before the dead arrive at the end of next ep
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