Helldivers 2 has been delisted on Steam in countries where PSN isn't available
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Way to burn through all your goodwill in a matter of days, Sony.
They seem to be on a pretty clear path of escalation to me, and I don't like where it's headed.
First you have optional PSN account linking in games, then it becomes mandatory.
They're adding a PSN overlay to games starting with Ghost of Tsushima, and I expect it won't be long before that becomes a launcher.
Before you know it, you'll be paying a monthly subscription for peer-to-peer online gaming.
They seem to be on a pretty clear path of escalation to me, and I don't like where it's headed.
First you have optional PSN account linking in games, then it becomes mandatory.
They're adding a PSN overlay to games starting with Ghost of Tsushima, and I expect it won't be long before that becomes a launcher.
Someone posted above that Japan has a different version of the game. So this version is restricted so they didn't buy the wrong one.
No, you didn't miss anything. Japan isn't listed on the SteamDB, however, it is listed in the screenshot in OP for some reason. Hence our question on why Japan.
Good to know my eyesight is still doing great after combing through the countries on the list.
I just went to my Steam library, and almost no games I have after sorting by multiplayer required an account link to my knowledge. Dark Souls 1 required games for windows live and Max Payne 3 required Rockstars garbage if I recall. I believe Lost Ark at some point started requiring an Amazon account but that was after I stopped playing. There's like 100 games there. It can't be THAT normal.
At this point Sony should just back down
There was nothing stopping this Helldivers train until Sony wanted to fluff up their numbers.
Doing this after news saying the game wouldn't even be top 20 without PC is just a bone headed move. Like they had this perfect success story and now it's a mess PR wise.
Granted idk what people are going to do when GoT comes out and requires it.
Yeah, most likely it's a rushed response to try and combat the wave of negative reviews, since it is obviously not ok despite what some members of the corporate defense force might argue, to allow the purchase of a game in a region that you don't allow the creation of the account required to play such game.
One of the negative reviews has the following list, not sure to its accuracy but seems close enough.
Whoever took the screenshot is only looking at one sub in SteamDB.
The game likely has a fair few different subs so they can treat different purchases from specific regions in different ways.
Japan likely has it's own sub with other countries that have their own restrictions.
The image on its own is misleading without context
BLAME SONY FOR BLOCKING THEM OMG!! How do y'all do this roundabout thought process??
Probaby has less human gore/mangling of corpses. Japanese video game ratings tend to be strict about things like that.
Isn't it a rite of passage for every GAAS game to go through some controversy?
They are not backing down. They're doubling down on this.
They will not backtrack, that seems a lot of countries but i am 100% sure those represent like 5% or less of game sales in steam,its obvious they prefer to lose those than backtrack
How is this Sony messing up there good thing ? ( mind you had CEO saying how hand off they were)
This on arrowhead since this was suppose to be there at launch but thanks to other issues Sony allow them don't worry about it .
Which now come back and bite Sony in the ass since arrowhead knew about linking with PSN account since it something that get mention before game even came out .
This does feel like Steam's move over Sony requesting it. This move is in Steam's best interest, they don't want people buying a game they can't play then request a refund. Might as well stop the bleeding.
Sony should have accounted for this before the game released, and this is now the consequences of that.
It is for a lot of GAAS games, but usually you actually gain something from it, it isn't just a one sided transaction designed specifically to pump up a network's numbers.
Like with Fortnite (and many other games), for instance, your Epic account facilitates cross platform progression and purchase crossover. Cyberpunk enables cross platform save transfer that way. Lots of games do it these days.
What do you get for linking your PSN in Helldivers?
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I edited the post and removed the image. There seems to be a separate package for Japan: https://steamdb.info/sub/906469/
As stated in the OP, feel free to correct me if I misunderstood something. I use SteamDB regularly, but my understanding is not that deep.
Live Service or MP games require Account linking and logins at least once.
Publisher specific games like MS games also require xbox live accounts.
Japan was added back on launch
There's 2 skus right now for helldivers 2
Maybe there will be a third that is only the regions that just got removed from being able to purchase?
There's 2 skus right now for helldivers 2
Maybe there will be a third that is only the regions that just got removed from being able to purchase?
More likely this will be the template used for future games with mandatory PSN account linking. Those countries literally can't create PSN accounts because Sony doesn't offer it there.
They really should've just made it an optional thing and allowed territories without PSN to be excluded.
Bump in numbers?
Steam users are going to boycott all their GaaS games now. They are not only ruining Helldivers 2 they're ruining the upcoming Ghost of Tsushima port, Concord, etc.
This is the most short sighted decision I've ever seen
They do. For all online multiplayer games. Next is Ghost of Tsushima: Legends, Concord, Fairgamedollar, etc.
Call of Duty, Red Dead, GTA, Battlefield, Apex, Ghosts of Tsushima Legends, Division, etc.
I'm not saying its everything, but account link and/or launchers are pretty common in the multiplayer space from publishers.
They are lol. If you think the majority of players complaining are those with justifiable concerns, then I don't know what to tell ya. The internet is gonna internet.
Many do, yeah, but I can't think of one that had dozens of countries of lord knows how many players rendered obsolete.
it's quite funny how if they didn't put a hold on the integration at launch absolutely no one would have minded and people would have just made foreign psn accounts if they needed it
Steam only marks negative review bombs when they're for things unrelated to the game in question.
Conveniently, Helldivers has a linked package showing its overall commerical license as to where it can be sold on its main steamdb page.
You will notice Japan is not restricted, but it otherwise matches the update.
So all Live Service games or MP games might just not be available in these regions.
Told ya, sonh will not backtrack this and they prefer this IP to burn into the ground vs backtracking a policy, if theh backtrack/reverse they will have to do it FOR ALL GAAS GAMES, and they will not, every publisher ask for accounts for gaas games, anybody here thought sony would backtrack that?
I am sure those countries where H2 is delisted represent like 5% of sales of the game, they are getting a PR hit but as any PR hit, it will die with time, now let see if helldivers dies, but i doubt it as majority of their sales are in US, and UK etc..
I am sure those countries where H2 is delisted represent like 5% of sales of the game, they are getting a PR hit but as any PR hit, it will die with time, now let see if helldivers dies, but i doubt it as majority of their sales are in US, and UK etc..
Isn't it pretty much similar to Microsoft/Xbox login for like Halo? You get achievements and can use your Xbox/PSN friends list and other MS/account features.
MS has been doing this for like a decade with no compaints now. Sony just late to the party.
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