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[IGN France] Yes, Redfall was originally planned for PS5
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Both Deathloop and Ghostwire were announced at E3 2019, a year before those exclusivity deals were announced. No platforms were mentioned, for this exact reason. It wasn't until a year later, when we saw gameplay that we found out they were timed exclusive. Until then, everyone assumed they were multiplatform. Same for Starfield in 2018.They were announced as multiplatform when PS5's timed exclusivity was announced. What are you even trying to say? Both of these reveals say timed console exclusive at the end.
GhostWire: Tokyo – Gameplay Reveal Trailer | PS5
https://www.playstation.com/games/ghostwire-tokyo?emcid=or-1s-412983"Tokyo is overrun by deadly supernatural forces after 99% of the city's population vanish...youtu.be
DEATHLOOP - Official Gameplay Reveal Trailer | PS5
https://www.playstation.com/games/deathloop?emcid=or-1s-412983DEATHLOOP is an innovative first person shooter launching for PlayStation 5 and PC from Arkane ...youtu.be
The DIFFERENCE is Redfall and Starfield NEVER got an announcement of consoles.
This. Game mechanics and feel might be fun, but it looks like just another looter shooter. Same as suicide squad
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So, is this not essentially the same as what is being said about Redfall here? A multiplatform game made exclusive due to a business deal with a platform holder? Or does it not count because it was only said by the game's director rather than hinted at in the end card of a youtube video?
We are making software exclusive to our proprietary platform "for the players".
Who are you speaking to?
Zenimax was a multiplatform publisher. Of course they'd be planning on releasing on all platforms. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they spent a little time on Stadia too.
The point here is that a Redfall was never announced as releasing multiplatform. If it was, MS would have honoured that existing agreement.
Okay, and Microsoft should honor your assumptions now??
The fact of the matter is that what is announced is what is announced, and what was never announced were Starfield or Redfall for PS5.
If the acquisition took place a year later, after Starfield and Redfall were revealed and had platforms announced, I'm sure we would be seeing them on PS5. But since they never were officially announced for the platform, they aren't showing up there.
Capcom took Resident Evil 4 Remake away from Xbox One gamers after surely having it originally planned for the console 😢 /s
Or in reality... for whatever reason during development be it costs, market, sales projections, or acquisitions, it doesn't matter if a platform was "planned" at some point if by the time it was announced/revealed/launches it is not releasing on said platform(s). It was not dropped post-communication unlike Stellar Blade as someone pointed out (there may be other examples throughout history, but that is recent). Note: not saying that is due to Sony's partnership with the game as some form of warring, just an example.
Or in reality... for whatever reason during development be it costs, market, sales projections, or acquisitions, it doesn't matter if a platform was "planned" at some point if by the time it was announced/revealed/launches it is not releasing on said platform(s). It was not dropped post-communication unlike Stellar Blade as someone pointed out (there may be other examples throughout history, but that is recent). Note: not saying that is due to Sony's partnership with the game as some form of warring, just an example.
Of course it was expected, doesn't mean people can't voice disappointment.:P
No, they shouldn't. I think we actually agree with each other.
I'm okay with Starfield and Redfall being exclusive because they are first party now and Xbox can and will do what they want with Bethesda games, just like Sony can with their own games. They were never "taken away" from PS5 because they were never announced for PS5.
No, a timed exclusive is obviously substantially different than a permanent exclusive. Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo came to Xbox after a year while Redfall and Starfield will never come to Playstation.
it's just weird.. a lot of post seem to make it seem some evil corp microsoft.. lol Sony would have done the same
ok Sullivan. Like not even trying to go back and forth, it's a difference of opinion, I don't believe it's willful ignorance at all, and I believe something being in development and stopped falls under "taking games away". The game did exist on other platforms, it simply wasn't annoucned. No no one lied, yes, we can all exercise some common sense here.
But again, agree to disagree there. Ya'll have a good day and i mean it.
Essentially, we will look at games and see what makes sense to release multiplatform and what does not make sense to do so.
They are not taking away anything that is already there on PlayStation. They keep supporting everything that needs supporting as they have always done with every deal they have signed.
Where a contract exists, they have always seen the contract through. They did that with every purchase they made, even when they got publishing rights for something like Psychonauts II.
This is the thing I do not get.
You will see people that are OK with timed deals, and some of those being extended by Sony to God knows when coming up and complaining about games missing out on PlayStation.
I have always said that what Microsoft did was right. Sony was killing their business one timed exclusive at a time, and blocking a new way of content delivery with each contract they signed.
Sony is big enough to look after itself, and people that have consistently chosen to never spend dollars elsewhere can simply live with their decision. We cannot be sitting here debating about the morals of how business should be done when no single console OEM is bathed in light.
And, and here is a recent example of actual "taking games away"
Sony gets Stellar Blade.
MS gets this.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44hVOJo9KGY
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byFCqXK-dRk
Damn for some reason I thought there was a 2 years gap now. Thanks ! :P
I still think10 years is nothing but I don't want to derail the thread so I'm out lol
I don't think anyone is surprised but the mental gymnastics of how MS didn't actually take it away (because it wasn't officially announced, though it was clearly in active development) is fun to see.
That being said Harvey probably should've either dodged this question or should've added a PR spin on it instead of being so blunt about it lmao.
Yea seems like we're arguing the same thing here lol, my bad
And I didn't care about either of them going exclusive. In fact, I don't really care about any game going exclusive, I personally prefer exclusives. Just find it funny how mad people get that an unannounced game was made exclusive (which doesn't go against anything the acquiring party claimed) while people just ignore platforms actually being dropped from a game's already announced platforms.
Except most people haven't said Sony wouldn't. One can argue against Microsoft and still not want sony to do the same. We shouldn't list all posts with a disclaimer that is like
*these views may or may not necessarily extend to all other companies*
I just wish we would put the same amount of energy into discussing the game itself and not the context is in lol. like i know this is a thread about how Redfall is not on PS5 and i should be mad about it!!!!! but it feels like the game only really gets attention around here when it's for bad or controversial news. idk. Just me. don't pay attention
I have a gaming PC. I am still not a fan of this. My beliefs or desires do not extend to myself personally. I'm going to play Starfield on PC regardless, I would have still liked it to be on everything just like Skyrim was.
You are not owed anything.
The moment Microsoft gets a publisher or developer in, they are under no obligation to continue developing games for platforms outside their own. In short, they inherit all prior development cost.
They do as they wish. There is nothing wrong with that unless you feel that there is a need for games to appear on your platform of choice. Most, did not even support Arkane like that. Many on here do not even like first person shooters like that.
Sometimes, we have to say the truth as is.
This thread is just about news that wasn't public before now being public.
Make due with that information as you please but it isn't really about Sony not doing what MS does or vice versa.
Can't have games taken away from you when you have all the platforms.
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Lets go back to talking about how great this game looks!
The Microsoft / Activision Blizzard acquisition |OT| Antitrust Simulator (completed; discussing post-merger issues) OT
Since at least September 2022, the CMA knows about Redfall (and Starfield) becoming exclusives once MS bought Zenimax (implying that there was a PS5 version in development): Decision from Phase 1 (September 15th 2022) The CMA found a pattern of Microsoft acquiring development studios and...
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Lets go back to talking about how great this game looks!
Move away from these ideal world conditions and embrace reality.
Wasn't FF VII Remake an obviously substantially different" "timed exclusive"???
Without MS purchasing Zenimax, can anyone really say you'd see either game on XBox?
Zero of these companies are your friends or comrades; they are fighting each other for your money, whatever it takes. It's amazing they're able to create legions of fans so dedicated that they spend all day online warring over this weird shit. They both take advantage of the various methods they have, not for you, but for your wallet to join their ecosystem. Becoming a devout warrior for one or the other is so absurd.
Another console war thread, I see. Exclusives are part of the business. How many planned multi-platform ports have been canceled over the years due to buyouts or moneyhats?
Now, let's ask ourselves which platform holder do we think has more experience in such matters. Then let's ask ourselves if we were as vocal about such things when it was the "other" platform that was impacted by such tactics.
Now, let's ask ourselves which platform holder do we think has more experience in such matters. Then let's ask ourselves if we were as vocal about such things when it was the "other" platform that was impacted by such tactics.
Of course it is because of Sony's partnership. The major difference is that Sony only has a partnership with Shift Up -- to my knowledge they didn't acquire them, so the developer is still very free to do whatever projects they way for whatever publisher they want, with whatever deals they like.
I don't get the comparison at all.
This was known to the CMA as of September 2022. As per Idas:
The Microsoft / Activision Blizzard acquisition |OT| Antitrust Simulator (completed; discussing post-merger issues) OT
Yeah this deal is a bust
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People thinking this adds anything to the current climate are mistaken.
Interesting to see what will happen to the Doom and Wolfenstein series. I'd bet they stay exclusive, but stranger things have happened
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