Im surprised it's still even in those boundaries, considering how AWFUL the product is outside of the NXT stuff.
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Joshiuary Wrasslin |OT| The Year of the Shining Star
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Im surprised it's still even in those boundaries, considering how AWFUL the product is outside of the NXT stuff.
No.
UFC is out of the PPV game. AEW has shown people are willing to buy wrestling PPVS at high prices.
The actual critical reception of how good a show is doesn't matter one bit
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I don't think it's a genie you can put back in the bottle unless you take away the WrestleMania live stream from the Network and only have it available as a VOD. And that would depress subscription sign-up or retention.
I didnt say that it did..
It DOES impact live attendance and network subscribers.
They have deals that are propping them up big time.
It's a move made to appeal to the hardcore, I guess. But I think if suddenly you can't get the Big 5 Pay Per Views with the Network, it loses a TON of its value.
I agree completely. You can't unfuck it.
What you have to do is add value to Mania. Make a weekend pass. Film more. Make more available. Give Network subscribers a discounted price for it. Make it $30 for the weekend pass on the Network, comes with Mania. It's something, goddammit.
If they pull the big shows to put on PPV with NXT already on USA, they are killing the network
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Doubt it. If they go to any other streaming platform it will probably be DAZN because they already have international deals with them.
I appreciate you putting sports words into ESPN, but what do you actually mean? Because it doesn't make sense to me what you're saying. Don't "fumble" this!
Today with my pro graps journalism skills I discovered that Miyako Matsumoto wants a glass board explosion death match against Rika Tatsumi. I think it's fair to say I've contributed more to wrassle news than Dave has over the last decade.
The problem is that only appeals to the hardest of the hardcore. What finally got me to stop watching WWE was that Mania is already exhausting. I don't find the main show enjoyable because it drags on so long. Adding in a bunch of secondary shows sounds like work not entertainment.
I agree. I don't even want more, but how do you offer MORE than Wrestlemania and keep people happy? Fuck, I mean, I don't think you can without taking some major lumps and bad press over it.
We can't get DAZN in the UK. Who else would pair up with WWE.
Will be interesting is AEW has a presence on HBO Max when it launches. It could make the WWE look small fry.
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pretty sure they said they were gonna stop uploading older stuff until they caught up on newer stuff
they are only up to volume 79
out of 117
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But if the claim was that there's no evidence that they are moving away from the NC angle, that's just wrong. You either have to
not be watching or not paying attention to think that at this point.
If they put the therapist stuff on TV, or the Shida/Mel match on TV, you
know damn well people would be bitching that they're wasting precious TV time on the angle that nobody likes, so it seems like shuttering it to the web based content should be the ideal situation, but I guess apparently not.
I think this is another funny situation where Dynamite was seemingly universally praised last night, but here we are focusing on like a one minute long appearance by someone, and an angle that hasn't been on Dynamite in almost a month. IMO this is absurd nitpicking.
I was thinking about that but not sure if they had any any relationship with NBC.
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Not as much as they used to with Bonnie Hammer out, but certain aspects of NBCU (namely USA and E!) still love them.
There is no easy fix to this that involves charging sixty bucks. You WERE charging $10. And quite frankly, I think Dave was onto something when he said the Network was around before streaming services got out of hand. Now that we've got big competitors in the space, WWE Network is a hard sell. HBO Max is $20. Wrestlemania at sixty for seven hours of wrestling, and even if the quality was great throughout....that's way too exhausting.
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Things can be good and have bad parts at the same time. Not everything has to be effusive praise. AEW will survive this I assure you.
DAZN hasn't signed any big deals in a while. Buying out the WWE network would require massively more than anything they've ever done before. It would be a big risk for anything but one of the mega-corps like Disney through ESPN.
Listening to Dave and Bryan and supposedly one of the big reasons why Vince fired Wilson/Barrios is because they thought stock piling talent they weren't using was a waste of resources.
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There's no way of knowing how much WWE would want for a deal like this because we have no idea what their margins on PPVs are right now.
That's amazing. Getting rid of smart people is a great business move
"You trying to give AEW an opening? Are you working with them? ANSWER ME, GODDAMMIT!"
GCfxxxinW!!!
Remember when the Network was about to get a higher-priced tier?
The network in its current form is one of the stupider things Vince has done in recent years.
I mean, I could have told him 6 years ago that putting all the PPV's on there was a mistake. Plenty of people were saying it at the time.
I mean, I could have told him 6 years ago that putting all the PPV's on there was a mistake. Plenty of people were saying it at the time.
Aside from the TV contracts, the network is the most valuable thing WWE owns since it represents steady profit. There could be carve outs for things like Mania not on the network, adding in secondary programs, etc but WWE would want several billion dollars for it.
Without those PPVs the Network fails. From day one. The content isn't devalued 'cause it's cheap, it's devalued because its cheap AND there's so much of it. Imagine 2017--when they had 19 PPVs in a single year--and there's no Network.
Cool, another David Starr video to promote a match against Jeff Cobb for OTT.
OTT and Starr usually knock these out of the park.
OTT and Starr usually knock these out of the park.
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