(Kansas City, MO) Protests after Ralph Yarl, a 16-year-old Black teenager, was shot twice by white homeowner after ringing doorbell at wrong address
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You still have to wonder why it took the police 3 days to make the referral to the DA. All the evidence except for the boy being available for interview was already there. It's not like they had to do more work at the scene with the news crews already filming the house being cleaned up.
Yeah, my impression there is that he believes there is a racial component and will use it in his case (because duh there obviously is), but he could really only comment on the probable cause statement for now, which indicates in the text that no words were exchanged at all between the shooter and victim.
Yeah, it's great that he's been charged with the highest possible felony under state law, but they waited for days to issue the charges, seemingly giving him the opportunity to flee the city. (If that's true)
So this guy shot a kid and was allowed to fucking leave the state? Are you fucking kidding me?!
Not to take away from the horror of this event, but man, this country is just overflowing with armed paranoid weirdos who think people existing on or near their property means they have a license to kill.
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Honestly surprised it doesn't happen even more frequently tbh
You have a huge chunk of the population, confidently ignorant, loading up on guns, racist fear mongering propaganda online and tv, enabling politicians, and a culture of guns as the answer and laws that essentially protect against accountability
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I'm sure it's possible but I'm not seeing this anywhere. Does anyone have a source that Lester has left the state?
Just want to make sure we're not spreading misinformation from random people on Twitter.
Yea, this is my position as well. What a piece of absolutely god damned dogshit.
Can't understand why they didn't charge him based on his own statement alone. He says he heard the doorbell and didn't give any warning before shooting. He was booked for aggravated assault that night but the county prosecutor advised releasing him.
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Sounds like the woman who called 911 only initially stayed inside due to 911 instructing her to remain indoors until the shooter was located.
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Yarl was conscious enough to give a statement on April 14 and they still waited 3 days WTF. The prosecutor needs to be questioned.
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3 days is what it took for the story to make national news and thereby put pressure on the pigs
Apparently KCPD already had him booked for aggravated assault that night, it's the county prosecutor that had him released.
Poor kid. I'm so glad he's going to pull through.
This country is sick.
This country is sick.
I once had a dog released on me when somebody didn't know that their daughter was getting doordash. In the guy had the nerve to tell me to try and pick up the food although I let the dog have it and the daughter literally hit the back of his head being very angry. Oh but she had no idea how angry I was once I reported it to their safety team... Whoo after two months? Let others Deliver to that location and someone I knew got bit!
Another time I had a guy tapped on his holstered gun who thought I was a door to door salesman, when I was trying to deliver donuts. His daughter was getting them to him as a surprise and I told her that he will not be getting donuts and I'm making a statement to police to, which she told me not to cuz he's very old. No. He had his life. I almost didn't.. again, support? A ban for the daughter! Not that address... Hmmm
Yes they BOTH had a lack of skin pigmentation, but don't worry, the police told the last guy not to ever do it again. **Pinky promise!*** (I said the donuts were misplaced, least they steal them for themselves)
These both were during the day, incident with the person I knew was evening. Dog was shot because pigs were ACTUALLY afraid for once...
The point? People of privilege with "property"? They feel they are the hero.
I gave to the GoFundMe. Not much for today, due to taxes. But I'll do my best later if I can
The exact same thing happened about two years ago
Texas man who fatally shot Moroccan man in unfamiliar car in driveway charged with murder
Terry Duane Turner, 65, was arrested Friday and charged with murdering Adil Dghoughi.
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How extra fucked up is it that this isn't some freak occurrence but something that's been happening several times. People just getting shot for approaching the wrong house
The exact same thing happened about two years ago
Texas man who fatally shot Moroccan man in unfamiliar car in driveway charged with murder
Terry Duane Turner, 65, was arrested Friday and charged with murdering Adil Dghoughi.
How extra fucked up is it that this isn't some freak occurrence but something that's been happening several times. People just getting shot for approaching the wrong house
It's not new either.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Yoshihiro_Hattori
To be clear, no - I'm the only one who has said it in the thread, and no, there's no official source saying that yet. It's just word around the campfire here in KC, but it's the same campfire that knew the guy's name two days ago. I can't promise the "skipped town" part is true, but I've got a pretty strong feeling it is. Because:
1. He'd be in custody right now if he was in town
2. He definitely hasn't been to his house during the last couple nights of protests
3. The Clay County prosecutor during this afternoon's press conference said they don't currently know his whereabouts, then when directly asked about the rumors that Lester had left the state, hesitated for a sec then responded that "all involved police forces are working in cooperation".
4. At the protests on his street, everyone is saying there were neighbors telling people he left with family for his cabin in AZ (outside Phoenix) right after he was released from his "cursory interview".
Like I said earlier, take it with a grain of salt - but if it turns out NOT to be true at this point I'm going to be surprised, and so is the rest of the city. It's not being officially reported yet, but I think it's going to turn out to be true.
Jesus Christ... sorry you had to deal with this shit.
It did occur to me that the whole "shooting people who ring the doorbell" thing could lead to tragedies towards delivery people, and it's just so fucking insane and mind-boggling.
I remember the first time I read this story and I was so enraged. That poor kid. And he got no fucking justice because the jury acquitted them
Just fucking unbelievable. What a sick country.
These cases are great examples of how guns just make things worse.
People being nervous about unfamiliar people showing up at the doorstep late at night isn't exactly an uncommon occurrence anywhere, whether due to general fear of strangers or the enhancements of racism and/or media hype about home invasions, etc. Not having a gun in those situations saves people from feeling emboldened to do idiotic crap like this to "defend" themselves.
Most 2nd Amendment fetishists are never going to care about Ralph (for, uh, reasons), but self-preservation alone should be telling them that owning guns just makes scenarios like this more likely.
And still reported regularly in Japan, especially around Halloween or when America has a shooting involving teenagers
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Well, if it turns out they aren't able to find him because they decided to let him go, that'll certainly put a new spin on the already horrible story.
My spin would be that they were complicit in his escape. The absolute BS claim that they needed a statement from the victim in order to make an arrest was just a transparent effort to buy this man time. They had ample reasonable suspicion than an felonious assault had occurred, including the man's own testimony.
They'll find him. He's an 84 year old man, not a millionaire criminal with multiple fake IDs on hand and foreign bank accounts with additional funds.
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If A Thief Breaks Into Your Home, Is It Wrong To Shoot Them?
Had an interesting conversation with some coworkers earlier regarding a news story that happened in Georgia (US) recently: Source: https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/homeowner-kills-intruder-peachcrest-road-dekalb-county TLDR: Thief attempts to break into someone's home, and the homeowner...
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Considering that no one here broke into any homes, what exactly is your point?If A Thief Breaks Into Your Home, Is It Wrong To Shoot Them?
Had an interesting conversation with some coworkers earlier regarding a news story that happened in Georgia (US) recently: Source: https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/homeowner-kills-intruder-peachcrest-road-dekalb-county TLDR: Thief attempts to break into someone's home, and the homeowner...
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If A Thief Breaks Into Your Home, Is It Wrong To Shoot Them?
Had an interesting conversation with some coworkers earlier regarding a news story that happened in Georgia (US) recently: Source: https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/homeowner-kills-intruder-peachcrest-road-dekalb-county TLDR: Thief attempts to break into someone's home, and the homeowner...
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Are you saying the victim tried to break in?
The kid rang a doorbell. Nobody in that thread is defending shooting the UPS guy.
I think he's saying that the thread had many posters who said they would shoot someone who broke into their house, regardless of their intentions, not that the victim tried to break in.
The gunner had no reason to think that though. Someone simply ringing a door bell isn't breaking in.
Right, but there's no relevance here because we aren't talking about someone being shot after breaking into a Home. We're talking about an innocent child someone ringing a doorbell and subsequently being shot through a locked door without warning.
This is gross. Unless you can point out someone in that thread that advocated for shooting people who ring your doorbell, I would stop.
This story gets me because at one point a few years ago, this could've easily been me. It was late at night and I went off in search of a booty call and went to the wrong house after driving into the wrong neighborhood (the neighborhoods were across the street to each other and were on the same cross street). Luckily for me, it was a extremely fatigued and woken up women. Hadn't even really considered the fact that some paranoid asshat could've shot me until this story.
Given how often people will use a driveway to uturn in tight neighborhood streets, I'm 100% with you in my surprise this doesn't happen more often than not.
Are you actually comparing the people in that thread to a racist attempting to murder a kid?
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... but that has literally nothing to do with this thread.
