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Kanye West Presents "ye" |OT| Kids See Ghosts This Friday
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I gave it a few more listens- this album is vapid and messy, filled with music and thoughts that sound half finished and rushed, just like TLOP. What could've been a potentially interesting examination of his recent behavior and role in popular culture wastes so much time trying to paint Kanye's tonal and stance shifts as "bipolar" that it ultimately says nothing. There are fewer embarrassing stanzas compared to TLOP just by nature of being a 20 minute project, but Kanye is still really weak as the central performer. Production is flat with familiar sounds and progression all over the place, and leaves the album sounding like TLOP b-sides, which is saying something considering TLOP already sounds like b-sides.
His worst album.
His worst album.
on the money. it comes across as an album trying to sound introspective but it feels substanceless.
Some of you legit senile. Graduation worse album? Worse than this? An album with can't tell me nothing and flashing lights worse than this?
JaeCryo I'm attempting this same project. With some tweaking I feel like I can make a super saiyan album.
I have some probs with your list tho but can salute the effort and thought put into it.
I'll throw out my very rough draft of the album I'm calling "Pablo's life of Ye"
1. Saint Pablo
2. Wolves (unsure which of the 6321 versions to use, could use help)
3. FML
3.5. Chop up I thought about Killing you (Use just some of the spoken word, get the beat switch and first half of the verse, then back to some of the spoken word)
4. Wouldn't Leave
5. Ghost Town
6. Fade
7. Famous
8. Real Friends
9. Waves
10. ULB
11. I Love Kanye
Will most certainly change some as I'm trying to mix this together.
I have some probs with your list tho but can salute the effort and thought put into it.
I'll throw out my very rough draft of the album I'm calling "Pablo's life of Ye"
1. Saint Pablo
2. Wolves (unsure which of the 6321 versions to use, could use help)
3. FML
3.5. Chop up I thought about Killing you (Use just some of the spoken word, get the beat switch and first half of the verse, then back to some of the spoken word)
4. Wouldn't Leave
5. Ghost Town
6. Fade
7. Famous
8. Real Friends
9. Waves
10. ULB
11. I Love Kanye
Will most certainly change some as I'm trying to mix this together.
Exactly this to both of your POV's, felt like I was taking crazy pills listening to people thinking this album is deep or that it needs multiple listens to process .
Graduation should thank this album for finally replacing it as the worst album.
After numerous listens, Ye is far from bad music but easily his worst album. My ranking goes:
Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Graduation
College Dropout
The Life of Pablo
Late Registration
808's
Yeezus
Ye
Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Graduation
College Dropout
The Life of Pablo
Late Registration
808's
Yeezus
Ye
lol... idk think it's one of the true mysteries of the universe.
Like Ghost Town, Violent Crimes, and Yikes.
That's about it though.
Super average album, and honestly half the shit he's talking about i cant get into.
just done with Ye though honestly after all this stuff.
Final Ranking
MBDTF
College Dropout
808's
Late Registration
Yeezus
Graduation
Pablo
Ye
That's about it though.
Super average album, and honestly half the shit he's talking about i cant get into.
just done with Ye though honestly after all this stuff.
Final Ranking
MBDTF
College Dropout
808's
Late Registration
Yeezus
Graduation
Pablo
Ye
tbh I feel shitty talking about this and it's a fine line to tread because how someone wants to handle their mental illness is their right and obviously don't think that Kanye isn't bipolar or anything but it does feel inevitable when ~evaluating art~ to take everything into account. The album cover, the manic screams, calling his disorder a 'superpower', suicidal thoughts and other allusions on the album which reference what he's dealing with. It's an ugly album that doesn't translate well musically and ultimately shows he's still not okay. But if this is truly therapeutic to him that's good too, that doesn't shake off that it's sonically flat and any introspection evokes pity rather than profound sadness.
This shit is boring. If it wasn't Kanye people wouldn't even pretend to be liking this mediocre garbage.
Production is aight in spots but I just can't fuck with Kanye's rich & misunderstood therapy raps and oversized ego anymore. Glorifying mental illness as an excuse for his reckless and uninformed ramblings, gtfoh. Plus filler tracks on a 7 song EP, not a good look.
I'm taking nothing away from how therapeutic this process might be for him, and I'm certainly not accusing him of faking anything when I put bipolar in quotes. But when judging this album to his earlier work- work that was filled with calculated artistry and potent themes, no matter who ghostwrote it- I look at YE and it's just surface level. I don't get any deeper sense of what's going on, I don't get any sense of the music trying to tell me anything. The situation is sad, but as you said it's more pity than a really emotive and substantial sadness. So the music ends up straddling the line between egomaniacal and excuses, with only tiny moments of real emotion. The whole thing is as uncomfortable as the TMZ footage.
Album is trash. Opening track has great production as well as "No Mistakes" but overall its boring as fuck. I dont know if it'll grow on me but as of now, the album (and Ye) doesn't deserve the attention.
Easily his worst. Gotta hand it to Ye, he made the decision to stop giving a shit about him really easy.
Easily his worst. Gotta hand it to Ye, he made the decision to stop giving a shit about him really easy.
I still don't know about this album. There are parts I like and there are parts I don't. But I also think the stronger sentiments on ERA are pushing my own feelings towards the negative...?
I like the vibe of it. But it feels unfinished. Yet I think I don't want it patched. Although I would understand if it was.
I do think Ye is on to something with these 7 track albums though, it makes it really easy to dive back in again.
I like the vibe of it. But it feels unfinished. Yet I think I don't want it patched. Although I would understand if it was.
I do think Ye is on to something with these 7 track albums though, it makes it really easy to dive back in again.
If you all like the Janet Jackson sample on that last song, I suggest you check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvU_HLEe7uM
sorry but if you don't think Ghost Town and Violent Crimes are painfully beautiful and emotionally raw then don't even quote me
The only thing painful about that song is Cudis ear bleedingly bad vocals.
I think they're pretty good but I have a whole library of painfully beautiful and emotional songs and I don't need Kanye's mediocre and shallow offerings to fill those needs. No need to boot his songs up when I want to hear something like that after the spins today.
How's your library looking?
Cudi comes pretty damn close to the brown note here. How did this get through all the producers and engineers?
lol brown note.
I dunno, it really is baffling. We know Cudi can sound good depending on the mix and production magic. But his regular voice... lord save us.
Got visions of speeding bullet 2 heaven
MBDTF
G.O.O.D. Fridays
College Dropout
Yeezus
Graduation
808s
Cruel Summer
Late Registration
TLOP
Ye
G.O.O.D. Fridays
College Dropout
Yeezus
Graduation
808s
Cruel Summer
Late Registration
TLOP
Ye
Those lyrics are so vapid, it never excuses the 'rawness' of the singing, which is fucking awful. Now it just sounds like a bunch of dudes doing their best teenage angst voices. Might as well be a blink182 cover.
There are a lot of criticisms of this I can see but boring isn't one of them. It's 23 minutes and like it or not, the production is insane and never stays in the same place.
808s is a masterpiece what on earth, Literally Paranoid to Robocop to Street Lights is up there for one of the best 3 track runs of all time. And the rest of the album is no slouch, the only not great song is the weezy one, but the rest are good to amazing
right, i got it, i just don't really agree. first off I think lovesexy is one of P's best albums. wonderful stuff.
and I don't think you can compare graffiti bridge to ye... graffiti bridge is a feat of monumental excess. but it still has some of his best songs on it. but it's too long and still a mess. ye is very restrained, just a few tracks, toned down compared to TLOP.
also speaking of Prince... by the standards of people in this thread we should have cancelled him and never listen to his music (he said and did some fucked up things, including some pretty extreme homophobia and anti-LGBT statements). but I can't sacrifice his music either. just can't do it
I just personally don't like it, appreciate how influential it was but that's it.
I like some of the songs on this, but the problem is that its feels so conventional. Ye is all about innovating, pushing boundaries and this just isn't that. I'm sure I'll like it in a week but can't deny I'm disappointed
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https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/re...t-the-kanye-you-love-its-the-kanye-we-deserve
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https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/re...t-the-kanye-you-love-its-the-kanye-we-deserve
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