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Magic: the Gathering |OT| Guilds of Ravnica - We built this city on blocks of gold
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On a weds? Weeeeeird... I wonder why it's not on the traditional Friday.
Worlds is GRN draft
At least it won't be garbage fire standard only
https://magic.wizards.com/en/events/premierplay/2018WC
At least it won't be garbage fire standard only
https://magic.wizards.com/en/events/premierplay/2018WC
Only the team according to that. Solo is doing Dominaria draft.
Only the team series final is GRN sealed. The normal event is DOM draft and Standard.
Open beta is coming September 27th. That might be the final wipe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpOySUK3Vdc
Also, that trailer makes me think a lot of people will be disappointed. I mean it's a great trailer. For some other game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpOySUK3Vdc
Also, that trailer makes me think a lot of people will be disappointed. I mean it's a great trailer. For some other game.
- Open beta starts September 27
- They will wipe accounts for the start of the open beta, but will not wipe them between the open beta and the full release
- GRN prerelease packs, planeswalker decks and 1/8 of boosters will come with MTGA booster codes
Ummmmm
Buy a box, get sweet 8 dollars of value!
edit: would it be terrible to go around pre-releases begging for Arena codes?
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Hmm, so in the end, there weren't that many jump-start and undergrowth cards, and green doesn't have any self-milling. Weird.
None of the previously unrevealed cards stand out to me much yet, though the cards pretty clearly confirm that Gruul will be aligned with Bolas, with Domri Rade working for him.
Overall, the set looks like it could be fun, though I'm not sure about undergrowth and jump-start as mechanics.
None of the previously unrevealed cards stand out to me much yet, though the cards pretty clearly confirm that Gruul will be aligned with Bolas, with Domri Rade working for him.
Overall, the set looks like it could be fun, though I'm not sure about undergrowth and jump-start as mechanics.
Quoting shit from reddit because idk where they're getting this
1 per account means they're pretty much worthless.
This set is wack. Sorry. It doesn't look good. These mechanics are half baked and the power level disparity is still fucked.
Agree, undergrowth is undercooked as fuck, jumpstart is overtuned and has like 2 cards that are constructed playable. Dimir looks much better than the rest in limited. Boros and selesnya rather dull but should work ok.
Yeah it's basically worthless, that minecraft thing was in several sets I think.
I thought going in to the extent of a full box of paper product was well worth some extra value, in the interest of drumming up Arena hype. But I guess not. Cheapskate marketing campaigns are the worst.
This is where i'm at too. Surveil doesn't really do anything. It would be like making scry a guild mechanic. Mentor is signature Boros ie combat focused and will never break out of that box. Selesnya has a decent unity to its cards; it cares about token and going wide. Its probably the strongest color pairing in the set. Izzet has overcosted burn and draw tacked onto card disadvantage flashback. I barely remembered the Golgari bc you could put any of those cards in a set without the undergrowth keyword and it would fit.
I was really hoping for a homerun because RTR block was my favorite time to play standard and was willing to give it a try if there was a viable control deck. Even the legends are boring for commander.
I agree with everything you posted except this. Jump-start isn't flashback. Not really. Instead, it allows you to cast any card in your hand once as if it were the jump-start card. It's an interesting idea, but it does seem impressively overcosted to the point it's not usable. I dunno. We'll see.
Sure there is - spend a bunch on gems, use them for drafts, get them all refunded next week!
Jump Start is a really bad redo of flashback for no actual reason and costed brutally.
Surveil is Scry that internally fails to pay off.
Undergrowth is just nothing. You can't even self mill.
Mentor is wonky and requires you to draft 3/1s for 3 with no evasion.
Bringing back Convoke was a dumb idea. They don't do anything with it and it would have been bad with Chord in the set, but is even stupider without it because Chord is the logical payoff for playing a deck that goes heavy on Convoke enabling.
Even the chase cards fucking suck. Vraska is really bad. You don't want a sorcery speed once per turn sac outlet and Abrupt Decay is garbage at sorcery speed in standard where the best thing you can even do is kill a 3/3 with first strike. Ral and Vraska are both Ob Nix variants, as per usual. There is a 6/6 flying trampler for 5 mana with upside for no fucking reason.
Surveil is Scry that internally fails to pay off.
Undergrowth is just nothing. You can't even self mill.
Mentor is wonky and requires you to draft 3/1s for 3 with no evasion.
Bringing back Convoke was a dumb idea. They don't do anything with it and it would have been bad with Chord in the set, but is even stupider without it because Chord is the logical payoff for playing a deck that goes heavy on Convoke enabling.
Even the chase cards fucking suck. Vraska is really bad. You don't want a sorcery speed once per turn sac outlet and Abrupt Decay is garbage at sorcery speed in standard where the best thing you can even do is kill a 3/3 with first strike. Ral and Vraska are both Ob Nix variants, as per usual. There is a 6/6 flying trampler for 5 mana with upside for no fucking reason.
The whole economy approach in the game is simply the worst. There's no legitimate attempt to grow the game here. They just want to milk more cash out of their existing customers.
I thought they're only refunding spent dollars in the form of credit at the storefront, not gems used.
They were fucking terrified of Jump-Start and didn't print any good ones.
Undergrowth is dull as shit and all of the good graveyard enablers are in Dimir, unless you want to sacrifice/discard your own cards for no additional value other than what you get out of Undergrowth.
Surveil, on the other hand, is plastered on fucking everything.
Undergrowth is dull as shit and all of the good graveyard enablers are in Dimir, unless you want to sacrifice/discard your own cards for no additional value other than what you get out of Undergrowth.
Surveil, on the other hand, is plastered on fucking everything.
I agree it's nothing, but the lack of self-mill is not true. You can self-mill with Surveil and there are plenty of mono-black cards with surveil. That's obviously the way you're supposed to do it. There would be far too much mill if there was a Golgari method of milling. It's just not necessary.
Chemister's Insight and Risk Factor are very good Jump-Start cards.
I don't think Sultai is going to get there. The payoffs aren't good enough.
Mono-Green scares me.
I don't think Sultai is going to get there. The payoffs aren't good enough.
Mono-Green scares me.
"OMG where is all the self-mill?"
"OMG Surveil is plastered on everything!"
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Obv its impossible to have a good assessment of the set without playing it but at a first glance it looks pretty good to me. There are some individual cards I wish were reprinted or some niches that weren't filled that I think could/should have been but overall I like what I see. Not going to lie some of y'all aren't great at evaluating cards. Though to be fair I concern myself mostly with formats other than Standard so that is obv going to influence my perspective.
"OMG Surveil is plastered on everything!"
*Thinkingemoji.jpg*
Obv its impossible to have a good assessment of the set without playing it but at a first glance it looks pretty good to me. There are some individual cards I wish were reprinted or some niches that weren't filled that I think could/should have been but overall I like what I see. Not going to lie some of y'all aren't great at evaluating cards. Though to be fair I concern myself mostly with formats other than Standard so that is obv going to influence my perspective.
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Risk Factor is redonkulous in a burn deck. I'd put good money down on that. Being able to cash in a mountain for more burn or more cards is fantastic. The second cast is better than the first.
I did. Still says exactly what I thought it did.
Forgot about the Bogle horse. Also I should've said "some combination of B, U and G".
Forget about horse bogle. Pelt Collector and Nullhide Ferox are insane replacements for what the deck is losing.
Risk Factor is a decent card at the very least. It's playable in the right deck (aggro).
It doesn't make any sense to have to use a different guild mechanic to even enable it
Why would you play mono red aggro? What would you even put in the deck? Every card in the existing aggro deck other than Rekindling Phoenix and Chainwhirler is rotating.
Chandra, Courier, Hazoret and Glorybringer aren't replaceable and there's actively nothing to replace them.
I don't care really about Standard. Haven't for years.
These are just bad limited cards. The original Ravnica block also had bad cards but it was much easier to play 3 colours. I would have liked if they went back to a 3 colour format. Triple Ravnica, triple Gatecrash and then Dragon's Maze/Gatecrash/RTR were failures as draft formats in every aspect of the word, some more than others.
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