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Magic: the Gathering |OT| War of the Spark - Enter the Bo-Las (36 Planeswalkers)
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There's a lot of it in standard with the UBx decks right now, yeah. I play competitively so the corner case is what I'm reacting to.
also i don't think they design draft commons for last set constructed cards, but what you said is an explanation
Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage; Davriel's Shadowfugue
limited's going to be weird
the difference between using some of these walkers once and dying vs twice and sticking around is massive
lots of value if you're already winning usually makes for bad limited. we'll see
the difference between using some of these walkers once and dying vs twice and sticking around is massive
lots of value if you're already winning usually makes for bad limited. we'll see
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Here's Brandon Sanderson's article for these cards. He created Davriel for last year's Children of the Nameless.
According to him, Davriel came to Ravnica specifically to prove he was useless and no one should ever ask him for anything again.
I feel like these were made without Davriel as a character in mind. He's more the spell stealing type than just discard.
My guess they already had the mono-Black PW designed and swapped in Davriel after working with Sanderson.
the 1 mana resurrect is less busted because most planeswalkers can't minus immediately and kill themselves
getting resurrected on opponent's turn or on your end-step means they can still combine creature damage and a removal spell so you can't even use abilities twice
But they can get to the ability to minus themselves to death and if you attach it then you do get 2 loyalty abilities on the same turn and refresh the counters.
Not sure what you mean by this. If they use a removal spell on your creature and you get it right back then they traded a removal spell for your one mana enchantment. How is that not good? It also makes board clears and stuff like settle the wreckage less good. You can use it in Commander as protection.
Because it can bring back the creature even from exile, many of the normal ways you would punish an effect like this are just now off the table.
That fake blood artist is cool and all, but without a manaless sac engine, standard aritocrats will always just be meh. It's also just your creatures and not all creatures. I'll still play it tho....
Already a shit ton of cool b/w cards though, gonna be a fun set for sure.
Already a shit ton of cool b/w cards though, gonna be a fun set for sure.
So, regarding The Wanderer:
This Reddit post has a really interesting theory that seems very credible. He believes The Wanderer is Emrakul (or some part of Emrakul). For evidence, he cited the art for the card Shrine of the Forsaken Gods.
The similarities in visuals are pretty close. The Shrine art depicts Emeria, an angel that represented Emrakul to the people of Zendikar when they thought she was a god. There is some distinction - in the Shrine art, Emeria clearly has tentacles whereas there are none here. I think this is not distinctive. It's also important to note that Emeria was white, as is the Wanderer. The Wanderer is a wanderer, obviously, and so is Emrakul.
Another Redditor followed up with a story from Amhonket. This is where Nissa has a vision. I've added annotations (most of them courtesy of Reddit) that indicate this vision references the events of WAR now that we have most of the picture:
So nothing concrete, but I think it's an incredibly interesting theory and believable actually serves to move Emrakul into a new thread of character development beyond "all-powerful, incomprehensible god." I don't think they can do that storyline again, so this makes sense.
This Reddit post has a really interesting theory that seems very credible. He believes The Wanderer is Emrakul (or some part of Emrakul). For evidence, he cited the art for the card Shrine of the Forsaken Gods.
The similarities in visuals are pretty close. The Shrine art depicts Emeria, an angel that represented Emrakul to the people of Zendikar when they thought she was a god. There is some distinction - in the Shrine art, Emeria clearly has tentacles whereas there are none here. I think this is not distinctive. It's also important to note that Emeria was white, as is the Wanderer. The Wanderer is a wanderer, obviously, and so is Emrakul.
Another Redditor followed up with a story from Amhonket. This is where Nissa has a vision. I've added annotations (most of them courtesy of Reddit) that indicate this vision references the events of WAR now that we have most of the picture:
So nothing concrete, but I think it's an incredibly interesting theory and believable actually serves to move Emrakul into a new thread of character development beyond "all-powerful, incomprehensible god." I don't think they can do that storyline again, so this makes sense.
A lot of the Uncommon ones can't minus themselves to death without help because they end up at 1 counter with a -2 ability or whatnot. The rare/mythic ones generally can, but if those are sticking around along enough to get there, you're probably happy already.
They probably won't be using the removal spell if this card is on it then. And if they have an instant speed spell up when you cast this, you're gonna have a bad time.
From a limited perspective, if you have a spectacular bomb planeswalker or creature, this could be worth it, but there's enough weird stuff that can happen that'll make this not work (Pacifism, bounce, flicker) that it's risky. And it does actual nothing on it's own, and doesn't even enhance the thing you put the aura on except make it come back once, so there's a lot of situations in the game where it does nothing.
the scenario where the card might be busted is when you play a fresh walker, pay 1 for the enchantment, minus it immediately, and then get a brand new planeswalker that can use abilities again
minusing from any other loyalty requires surviving a whole turn cycle, and that's a lot less busted
it's a sorcery, so the creature can just be killed in response and you don't get it back
i'm not saying it's a bad card, but i don't think the creature part is busted. we've had instants that do the same thing, and those don't get as easily punished like aura sorceries do
Yeah, I think you are right now. It is very confusing though.
After reading the story and getting to enjoy his character I wanted something a bit more fun and flavorful than a monoblack 'kind of playable in limited' enchantment.
Carthago Delenda Est what you're reading is reaching 101 - trying to make sense of what is unexplainable without further info
Oh I've stopped. Just thought it was an interesting theory haha. I'm just going to keep hoping it's an entirely new character.
But this planeswalker is very specifically the only one we've ever had with no subtype, correct? No naming convention to connect it to others of the same entity. That's the cutest piece of information lending credence to the theory.
The only other known reasonable choice is Elspeth, which also does fit. Wanderer's abilities are similar (getting rid of creatures with 4 p/t or more). As well, the lore says that when someone leaves the Theros underworld, their face is ruined (becomes just eyes and a mouth), they have no memories and they cannot form new memories, but they do have all their skills and abilities and personality.
One other detail for Emeria/Emrakul/Wanderer is that it exiles, which is a very Eldrazi thing to do. Elspeth always destroyed.
I wonder if Davriel will be a budget replacement for Lili in 8 Rax or if 12 Rax actually becomes a thing.
It would be busted if it had Flash. Without it, it's still probably pretty good and definitely playable in the right sort of deck.
Even just a 1 mana removal insulator for a creature that can beat exile is pretty solid, without the Planeswalker clause. You can load this up on ol' Carnie-T and just give your opponent your best, "What now, bitch?" face.
Teferi's Time Twist; Kiora's Dambreaker
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Teferi showing Angrath how to really bust a move. Anyway, this is a pretty wordy common.
None of the cards that make flood counters benefit from having more, unfortunately.
The Wanderer has to be someone we already know. Obfuscating someone's identity like that and then revealing that they're an entirely new character that we don't already have an emotional attachment to is bad storytelling.
And, honestly, Emrakul makes a lot more sense than Elspeth. Her coming back from Nyx behind the scenes would also be bad storytelling.
And, honestly, Emrakul makes a lot more sense than Elspeth. Her coming back from Nyx behind the scenes would also be bad storytelling.
Instants that do this have to be played whenever the removal spell is on the stack. With an aura you can slap it on the creature at any point and it's protected for the rest of the game.
Also, it can matter that it's a permanent. Think Muldrotha or Sun Titan.
Ghost form is damn good at 1 mana, especially as it protects from exile.
Davriel is solid too, it actually gives discard decks a win con.
Davriel is solid too, it actually gives discard decks a win con.
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Eldritch Moon came out July 2016, so not quite that long.
Teyo was designed to be a Latino planeswalker.
Oh wow, Teyo is Latino? That's fantastic! I was literally just saying yesterday that it's a shame that there isn't a Latino Planeswalker yet.
Ah, you're right. I guess being sealed in the moon isn't that effective after all lol
"cool mysterious wanderer who chops big things up with her samurai sword" is a completely fine premise for a new character
Agreed, but the hidden face and missing type line both make a promise that when revealed will provide a strong emotional response. A new character won't do that. Wanderer's face isn't obscured by a mask, like Davriel's, just hidden by her hair and hat. *She's* not trying to hide her identity, WotC is. They wouldn't do that if there wasn't a reason.
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