Massive Russian military buildup near Ukraine
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I mean those first announced measures aren't even against Russia, but rather forbidding American citizens to do any kind of business/exchanges with the separatists. Which honestly should have happened since 2014.
There is still time for diplomacy. Putin is acting out of fear and what he believes is an effort to box him in by western nations. Imagine Mexico joining a pro russian organization and Russia setting up shop there. Not a chance in hell would the US stand for that. Putin is a horrible despot but this is why they are ramping up the way they are. Hopefully its not too late for everyone to pull back from the brink.
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I tend to agree with this, but I'm not sure what you do here.
There's definitely a blind spot for many leftists but it extends to Canada and Israel for most.
It's largely because that's what many American leftists are familiar with.
This is literally every community though. It's not just leftists. How many Liberals are for letting the United States colonies become sovereign countries? Or Hawaii if Native Hawaiians decide on it? We all need to be consistent on being anti-Imperialist.
Ukraine literally isn't allowed to join NATO because they've been at war with Russia since the first Russian invasion.
someone posted the ussr simpson joke pages back but like yeah that was kinda right
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No. There is not still time for diplomacy. Putin just unilaterally decided that a large section of Ukraine is no longer a part of Ukraine. Not only that he said that if Ukraine tries to stop them there will be bloodshed and that the bloodshed will be Ukraine's fault.
Where is the diplomatic solution to that?
Putin just rambled for an hour that Ukraine is not a real country and that letting it leave the USSR was a mistake and you still believe that?
NATO is not a threat to Russia and he knows it. Stop falling for Russian propaganda.
it was clear western intelligence knew what he was gonna say
Putin just said diplomacy is over...he's got troops moving into Donetsk *right now*.
In addition - he pretty much laid out in his "speech" that this not about NATO.
Really impressive that somehow despite all we've seen, some people are still able to frame this whole situation as one of Western/NATO aggression against poor old Russia.
Last year I read up on Viking history. I think this is another reason why Putin will not stop hassling Ukraine. He's like a CK player trying to form a 'de jure nation' and won't be satisfied till Russia has Kiev. He probably idolises Vladimir the Great (958 - 1015).
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edit: yep, found an article that goes more into my pet theory:
Sorry, I think I was a bit too vague with that post.
I'm just not exactly sure what the ToS is on blatantly typing out what I'm hoping happens to him (I mean, he's a dictator piece of shit, but still).
In case you're serious, Russia partially invaded Ukraine already in 2014, as they invaded Georgia and Chechnya in the past. Always using the same recipe of pretending these countries represent a threat for Russia.
But today Putin went in an one hour rambling speech on TV about how all the territories that belonged to the Russian empire belong to Russia and how Ukraine is not real and how he will practically make sure that all the people who protested on the Maidan to make Ukraine democratic will pay for it. So tell me more how this is about NATO.
He claimed Ukraine is developing nukes (there is 0%, read it, zero chance he believes and fears this, confident on that even with the "oh you can read his mind?" barbs), spent the past week outright inventing dozens of attacks by Ukraine, and gave a 52 minute history lesson on why the creation of Ukraine was a historical mistake and how the breakdown of the Russian Empire spanning from Poland to Georgia was 'madness'. It's a revisionist piss take to justify further action to secure what he believes is his legacy, which apparently is to revive the Romanov spirit.
And I'm only using his words here.
Clown. You realise Russia already annexed parts of Ukraine in 2014, right? And then they supported pro-Russian troops in East-Ukraine, making it impossible for Ukraine to join NATO since NATO doesn't allow countries with internal divisions to join. And then Putin surrounded Ukraine with 75% of his entire armed forces.
But Putin is scared for being boxed in? Zoom out, man.
You can't consider yourself a leftist and support Putin's Russia. Hasan is a fucking clown and I wish liberals would stop giving him views and money.
Putin is also not a smart man, he's a power-hungry lunatic that is driven by delusional emotions of giving what is already the largest country on earth more territory. He wants to make everything that was perceived as Russian in the past part or Russia again, he doesn't give a shit about people and just believes that everyone will be content with a daily dose of Russian misinformation and trolling.
Putin is also not a smart man, he's a power-hungry lunatic that is driven by delusional emotions of giving what is already the largest country on earth more territory. He wants to make everything that was perceived as Russian in the past part or Russia again, he doesn't give a shit about people and just believes that everyone will be content with a daily dose of Russian misinformation and trolling.
I have to assume that now it's either trolling or ignorance.
We literally just watched Putin openly talk about how Ukraine isn't a country and that section of it are now independent. Then he basically said that it wasn't just about NATO. He also said that he was gonna move troops in and if Ukraine tries to stop them then it's gonna be "bloodshed". The guy spent a fucking HOUR telling us HIS plans for war and territorial gains.
Yet you still have these drive by derails that claim it's all the fault of the US or NATO. Its so ridiculous.
This is a comment from someone who doesn't live in a country that is next to Putin's Russia. Did you even watch his speech? You really think that the countries he is threatening do not want to avoid war?
Unfortunately that is exactly what many so-called leftists in the west do.
So Syria is going to recognize these new independent states in support of Russia. I wonder if we will see some kind of anti-west alliance come out of this?
Iran
North Korea
China
Syria
Some kind of trade and business agreements to counter sanctions?
I have no idea but Putin didn't sound rational and I'm not sure he is stopping at Ukraine
Iran
North Korea
China
Syria
Some kind of trade and business agreements to counter sanctions?
I have no idea but Putin didn't sound rational and I'm not sure he is stopping at Ukraine
the meta commentary about leftists seems kinda pointless alot of the american commentariat doesn't know shit about global politics. the left is just showing their ass a bit more now
i don't think this means the left is forever dumb or centrists are now forgiven for their past dumb mistakes
i don't think this means the left is forever dumb or centrists are now forgiven for their past dumb mistakes
You can and many do.
We can't start to rectify this problem if we keep saying "well, they aren't REAL leftists". They are and they are wrong to.
You're kidding... right?
Diplomacy has NEVER been on the table. You're a fool if you think it was.
He wasn't "boxed in".. those nations joined up to PREVENT people like Putin doing a hostile takeover.
I believe China already came out and said they respected Ukraine's sovereignty a couple days back.
Most people just like to think in simple, black and white, terms. Bad guy, good guy. The US is bad, thus any opposing force is good. That's it. That's the entire reasoning that is happening here.
If someone is willing to put fucking Russia on a pedestal because they happen to do things the US government doesn't like, then they are pretty much lost for any kind of reasoned debate and any effort to talk with them is probably better spent watching paint dry. About as intellectually engaging.
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Nobody is saying either.
When I am getting mad at the left for defending Russia, I am mad as a leftist that others are defending a fascist regime in the name of my ideology.
There wont be an annexation. The whole point of the breakaway regions is to keep Ukraine in a perpetual state of war. The game being played now is the "Breakaway regions" only hold like 1/3 of the land they actually claim. Russia is essentially demanding Ukraine abandon and turnover land it controls. So Russia can use that as pretext. You are not giving up the land they own
The vast majority of Russia's ~190,000 troops on Ukraine's borders are deployed in positions to move directly into Ukraine from Russia, rather than into the Russian controlled areas.
China is ABSOLUTELY NOT going to be a part of this in any way, shape, or form as these events compromise their own policies towards Taiwan, Tibet, etc.
China is, first and foremost, interested in making money and gaining power on the world stage - they're not gonna achieve either of those purposes by joining the likes of Iran, North Korea and Syria. The West is by leaps and bounds the biggest money maker and trade partner for China.
tbh while I think that poster poisoning the well
I do hope , however far off the chances are (don't think they're likely), our leaders are trying to talk putin down with behind the scenes stuff (like kennedy and taking missiles out of turkey)
again don't think it's likely, and don't want us taking defensive reponses off the table but would rather them not take it off our plate of options
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