Context? I remember the remake being first released for Switch.
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He's talking about the port for the other consoles and PC that's happening soon.
Perhaps Level 5 can throw in a port of Yo-kai Academy Y.
The wrong, popular theory, is that as these games moving from Playstation only to Playstation + other consoles, the need for a Playstation is lessen. We have seen clearly though the likes of Final Fantasy/Street Fighter/Kingdom Hearts etc that Sony losing former exclusives to multiplatform has had a detrimental affect on their business and this wave with the Switch will mean its near death.
To be fair we don't know how much the PS5 actually costs right now.
that, and it's developed and published by a western company.
The problem is those huge franchises typically do not come early in the systems lifecycle.
So yes, Sony franchises including, and sometimes leading on Switch will absolutely lessen demand for PS5.
The big Japanese that are trying to be Western Publishers will be fine. The smaller one that have chosen Sony, are the ones that are going to bet left confused.
ricky and pocky was brought up as an example of "Japanese games announced this month that have skipped ps4 and just opted for switch and pc"
panzer dragoon was brought up cuz... god knows why.
yokai watch 4+++
not sure, but i doubt it.
Not talking about that at all. I am talking bout the fact that despite the PS4's current marketshare in Japan (and the PS5's supposed bad outlook), games continue to be released for it. Its still viable for publishers. If it was not viable, Sega wouldn't bother with a port to those three platforms.
It used to matter to Sony but then they lost the market. Nintendo is gonna sell over 20 million consoles there. It certainly matters quite a bit to them.
Sega isn't even the publisher for that game. It's Forever Entertainment.
You're arguing with a really bad example.
it's not a sega game, and it's not a game made in japan. there are several other examples that can prove your point, but your example here doesn't work at all.
When has a Pocky & Rocky game ever come out on Playstation at launch?
They're both bad examples you don't need to defend anything here.
PlayStation is quite popular in HK
I think Spiderman and demon souls will be launch. And their won't be much Japanese third party game this year
Third party support would be needed for q4 (fy)
Tales of arise, Babylon fall and Gt 7 (lol)
I think Japan still matters to them and pretty much no division will just sit and do nothing and see revenue declines lol
It's just this gen might had been profitable compared to last gen ( I have shared my reason in my previous post)
And they will make efforts to ensure revenue grows
i was referencing a post from a while ago. of course those two games i mentioned aren't gonna be big deals for the launch of a new system.
not defending anything. it was a valid answer to the question that was asked.
To be honest, if you look at current Capcom support on Switch, it was really hard to believe. Even more when the same MH Next Switch rumor kept coming months after months and nothing concrete really came.
It being RE Engine makes me hope Capcom's stance on Switch changed and we'll start to see real support from them.
I don't think Pocky & Rocky is remotely relevant but you understand you're talking about 2 SNES games and a GBA game, right?
Why wouldn't a modern game be on PS4 at launch?
Heavenly Guardian came out exclusively on the Wii at launch and was ported one year later to the PS2.
Discussions like this get frustrating because I feel like people just start arguing in bad faith. Nobody should be saying anything about whether it's "viable" for Japanese developers to develop games for Playstation 5. They will continue to do so, obviously. The question is about whether it makes sense for most Japanese developers to continue developing games exclusively for Playstation, with PS5 likely continuing the decline of the brand in Japan. The answer is no, most of these publishers should continue their current approach to making more and more of their titles multiplatform (or, available on Switch, since Japan is basically a 2 console market these days), which is already a thing happening within Japan and not likely to slow down any time soon.
The point is the shift happened when Playstation transitioned their company's global management structure to America and when the Japanese execs at Sony decided to hand the development of the PS4 by an American team in the hopes of making a console targeted for the west following the struggles of the PS3. That's when Japan was clearly not a priority anymore.
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What someone does in the future doesn't erase what he has done in the past. Capcom Switch support 4 years in has been a joke.
I think I found a strange pattern:
>Sony releases a succesful console which attracts Japanese 3rd party support
"Japan is saved, we're witnessing the ressurgence of the japanese market which will endure forever"
>The previously said console fails to attract the Japanese fanbase and/or stays at the second place behind a Nintendo console
"Well, it's not like the Japanese market matter anyways, it's been on it's decadence since the PS2 days"
Seems more a mental gymnastics than a fact for me. And it's even weirder that some people in the industry believes on that.
The deals with Sony should be really good for that.
>Sony releases a succesful console which attracts Japanese 3rd party support
"Japan is saved, we're witnessing the ressurgence of the japanese market which will endure forever"
>The previously said console fails to attract the Japanese fanbase and/or stays at the second place behind a Nintendo console
"Well, it's not like the Japanese market matter anyways, it's been on it's decadence since the PS2 days"
Seems more a mental gymnastics than a fact for me. And it's even weirder that some people in the industry believes on that.
The deals with Sony should be really good for that.
The group making Pocky & Rocky consists of 3 people, so they might not have that luxury. Wild Guns reloaded was on PS4, PC & Switch but there was over 6 months gap between each platform.
edit: oh I see what you mean by modern game now, but yeah.
I don't why this discussion dragged so much
I simply ask which were the several games announced on switch and pc which is missing on ps4
I simply ask which were the several games announced on switch and pc which is missing on ps4
Even if we consider Heavenly Guardian the dynamics have still completely changed even from the Wii days. The Wii had plenty of exclusives, the Switch doesn't.
another small, switch-only japanese game coming soon
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There are many small, medium and bigger games from Japanese publishers that are releasing only on Switch and skip PS4.
It's not really that hard to find them, even a simple look at new releases every week can show what's happening in reality.
It's not really that hard to find them, even a simple look at new releases every week can show what's happening in reality.
why exactly would PS start missing out on big games next year?
weird timing to say when in less than a week we're potentially expecting another timed (or full? hope not) exclusive Mainline final fantasy to be announced?
along with news of the already announced JP games from June.
doubtful tgs will show, but still waiting for Re:Link info, Project Awakening, and Tales of
weird timing to say when in less than a week we're potentially expecting another timed (or full? hope not) exclusive Mainline final fantasy to be announced?
along with news of the already announced JP games from June.
doubtful tgs will show, but still waiting for Re:Link info, Project Awakening, and Tales of
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The only thing we don't discuss PS4/PS5 will miss is big games.
okay, maybe I misread the previous conversation.
midtier games I agree switch is definitely increasing in getting exclusives compared to before.
but then there are also random PS exclusive mid-tiers frequently.
Guess I haven't seen a seismic shift yet either way.
most of these games need multiplat more than anything anyway
Where was this confirmed?
Also, Capcom is dumb. Nothing has changed there.
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It has more to do with "everything will be on PlayStation no matter what" when that's already far from reality.
Well if there are some publishers willing to make suicide (if PS doesn't make enough money then nothing will) I guess that could happen.
Well this is just my own guess but I think once again at the start of the gen Sony will focus more on smaller games (in west indies) like they did with PS4 as they want the hardcore audience on board as soon as possible. Then after that during mid and late gen you can focus on more ''casual'' userbase.
Aside from the points raised by Avada above, I would say that that was pretty much the last year Japan Studio stopped making content aimed at the Japanese Market. There hasn't been anything since Freedom Wars/Oreshika/Soul Sac Delta that doesn't feel aimed at the west first and foremost, so it seems as good a cutoff point as anywhere.
I expect a CG trailer with no date for that. Probably coming in 2022 at the earliest.
Doubt it's a cg , also had more showable state as per insider
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Athia would've worked best as a complementary reveal ala KH3 in 2013. It's extra weird since XVI is in a much more showable state than Athia.
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Giving up on the market is different than "losing the market". The vita's failure right out of the gate was the final signal the market was lost given the PS3's performance.