DQVIII(2004)
DQIX(2009)
DQX(2012)
DQXI(2017)
Keeping in mind that DQXI Switch will be firmly into 2018 at the earliest there's no way DQXII comes before 2021.
Media Create Sales: Week 50, 2017 (Dec 11 - Dec 17)
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DQVIII(2004)
DQIX(2009)
DQX(2012)
DQXI(2017)
Keeping in mind that DQXI Switch will be firmly into 2018 at the earliest there's no way DQXII comes before 2021.
You have one of these for PS4?SWITCH GAMES, Ranking Sales, Japan, 2017 (Dec 11 - Dec 17)
Media-Create: 32 games
01 - Splatoon 2 (Nintendo) (2017.07.21) - 1.530.859
02 - Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo) (2017.10.27) - 1.082.650 (1m!)
03 - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) (2017.04.28) - 945.232
04 - The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) (2017.03.03) - 702.460
05 - 1-2-Switch (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} – 295.470
06 - ARMS (Nintendo) (2017.06.16) – 272.206
07 - Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver. (Capcom) (2017.08.25) - 158.448
08 - Pokken Tournament DX (Pokemon Co.) (2017.09.22) - 150.782
09 - Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (Nintendo) (2017.12.01) - 129.426
10 - Super Bomberman R (Konami) (2017.03.03) – 97.123
11 - Fire Emblem Warriors (Koei Tecmo) (2017.09.28) – 53.531
12 - Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch (Bandai Namco Games) (2017.09.07) – 44.239
13 - Dragon Quest Heroes I & II for Nintendo Switch (Square Enix) (2017.03.03) – 41.419
14 - Seiken Densetsu Collection (Square Enix) (2017.06.01) – 37.728
15 - Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (Capcom) (2017.05.26) – 21.139
16 - Dragon Quest X: 5000-nen no Harukanaru Kokyou e Online (Square Enix) (2017.11.16) - 18.444
17 - Puyo Puyo Tetris S (Sega) (2017.03.03) – 17.323
18 - FIFA 18 (Electronic Arts) (2017.09.29) – 17.276
19 - Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star (Marvelous) (2017.07.20) – 10.247
20 - Dragon Quest X: All in One Package (Square Enix) (2017.09.21) – 9.482
21 - Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso (Nippon Columbia) (2017.12.07) - 9.435
22 - Minna de Wai Wai! Spelunker (Square Enix) (2017.04.20) – 7.447
23 - Resident Evil: Revelations Collection (Capcom) (2017.11.30) - 6.540
24 - Lost Sphear (Square Enix) (2017.10.12) – 5.770
25 - Nobunaga's Ambition: Taishi (Koei Tecmo) (2017.11.30) - 5.636
26 - LEGO City Undercover (Warner Entertainment Japan) (2017.06.29) – 5.351
27 - Sonic Forces (Sega) (2017.11.09) - 4.686
28 - One Piece: Unlimited World Red – Deluxe Edition (Bandai Namco Games) (2017.08.24) – 4.652
29 - Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon (Koei Tecmo) (2017.08.31) – 4.463
30 - Cars 3: Driven to Win (Warner Entertainment Japan) (2017.07.20) – 3.220
31 - NBA 2K18 (Take-Two Interactive Japan) (2017.10.17) – 2.689
32 - Champion Jockey Special (Koei Tecmo) (2017.09.14) – 2.626
Highlights:
- SMO, over 1m!
- Splatoon 2, over 1,5m!
- MK8D, over 900k
- Zelda BOTW, over 700k
- ARMS, over 250k
- Pokken Tournament DX, over 150k
SWITCH GAMES, Ranking Sales, Japan, 2017 (Dec 04 - Dec 10)
https://www.resetera.com/posts/2115946/
Well Switch will have 3 by the end of this year.
Games that will surely sell a million:
Animal Crossing Switch
Smash Bros Switch
Pokémon Switch
Zelda Breath of the Wild(Its already almost at 800k with digital and will leg it out next year)
There is 7 there already that'll likely be million sellers. Add in Mario Maker, New 2d Mario, new monster Hunter, etc. I can see it easily have 10 1 Million+ sellers. That doesn't even add in the possibility of another Mario Kart, Pokémon, Monster Hunter, etc.
While the 3ds has a lot of million sellers, Switch while not having Yokai Watch probably up there will have Zelda and Splatoon.
Games that will surely sell a million:
Animal Crossing Switch
Smash Bros Switch
Pokémon Switch
Zelda Breath of the Wild(Its already almost at 800k with digital and will leg it out next year)
There is 7 there already that'll likely be million sellers. Add in Mario Maker, New 2d Mario, new monster Hunter, etc. I can see it easily have 10 1 Million+ sellers. That doesn't even add in the possibility of another Mario Kart, Pokémon, Monster Hunter, etc.
While the 3ds has a lot of million sellers, Switch while not having Yokai Watch probably up there will have Zelda and Splatoon.
That's in Japan in terms of total shipments it only moved a few extra hundred k shipments quarter on quarter. Which is decent but hardly the signs of a future megafranchise worldwide unless it starts to dramatically ramp up.
I think you use the analog sticks to walk and gyro to balance yourself.
Since its handheld mode only, I'm guessing they're gonna make you hold the Switch in front of you and use the gyro for camera control in order to recreate vr gameplay.
Well they're going to have the same issue with XII but even more expensive because it will be Switch and PS5.
Nah, I imagine Switch will be the target, might go cross gen too
That is how succesfull mid tier new IP behave. They sell a few hundred k every quarter. Given the development budget, I think its pretty succesfull so far. A higer budget sequel will do better. I also never meant to say it will become a mega franchise but a mid tier 4 to 5 million seller is possible.
You think the power difference between the PS5 and Switch will be even greater than that between the PS4 and 3DS? I seriously doubt that, 3DS is absurdly weak.
Put aside raw power for a moment, Switch has all of the modern rendering features the PS4 has (and some more modern ones) while the 3DS is far, far behind even the PS3 in that area.
EDIT: Okay my bad, I read that as "expansive" for some reason which had me thinking you were talking about the gap between the two games. Anyway it wouldn't be more expensive because it won't be two completely separate games, rather it will be one game scaled up or down.
Wouldn't mind Hori retiring and having a DQ game that feels more fresh tbh.
That's what i'm saying but that's not megafranchise sales. MK sells 10-30 million selling franchise on a good day. That's the team which made ARMS. They could make another MK or have another crack at a new IP.
My point was just that Switch will be a successful system, with or without big 3rd party games, let alone exclusives. I came to terms with not getting the biggest 3rd party games on a Nintendo console long time ago, brooding over this isn't going to change things for the better. Big surprises are definitely more than welcome though, and I maintain my optimism when it comes to future 3rd party support. This extends beyond Dragon Quest by the way.
(I'm going to preface this by saying I never expected XC2 to explode but I'm doing this for argumentation's sake :P). I think you could argue that since the original released relatively late in the Wii's life and XCX was one the Wii U, that the series never had the chance to "explode" despite the first one being really really well received, and that XC2 would be the one to do it. The situation isn't really comparable to EO which never really was ampered by the console it released on.
500k+ in December or do you mean lifetime? Because if it's december that honestly feels way too optimistic to me, but I'll be glad to be wrong :P
PS4's YOY battle is going to be close. It needs like 130k in 2 weeks. Either way its a good hold from last year's high and well ahead of PS3. 2018 will be an interesting year with MHW and KH3 at the forefront.
DQ12 will most likely be in 2021 or 2022.
Bare in mind that XCX 200k debut was in a holiday month. 200k outside would be good for a JRPG.
DQ12 will most likely be in 2021 or 2022.
Bare in mind that XCX 200k debut was in a holiday month. 200k outside would be good for a JRPG.
Will it be that interesting if there's nothing more than MHW and KH3?
200k is good for a JRPG nowadays, with or without being in a holiday month.
...just those 2 expecting to make a mark and make things interesting?
That doesn't sound good to me...
There's also the One Piece game and the Fist of The North Star Yakuza game (I expect both to be pretty big). I think 2018 will be a pretty good year for the PS4. Steady sales will be propped by the high amount of smaller games releasing on it too.
Yeah I'm not too big into either of those so I've got no idea how they are expected to perform. There's enough there to carry excitement for the year for sure in Japan but I don't see it being interesting for too long. Lots of gaps between the noticeable releases I'm expecting.
Or, you know, they can make MK, ARMS and a new IP if there is the opportunity. Growing a new IP requires persistence and investment but is ultamitely worth it because it adds variaty to your existing line up and grows the market. Dropping a already succesfull new IP for another new IP is not really how I see Nintendo operate. Different teams will create new IP for sure, but Nintendo is pretty good at nurturing and growing IPs.
JANUARY 11
[PS4] Dissidia: Final Fantasy NT
[PS4] Fate/Extella (Best Collection)
[PS4] Happy Manager
[PS4] NEW Danganronpa V3: Minna no Koroshiai Shingakki (SpikeChunsoft the Best)
[PS4] Shiawase Zhuang no Kanrinin San
JANUARY 18
[PS4] ATV Drift & Tricks
[PS4] Gintama Ranbu
[PS4] Valkyria ChroniclesRemaster (Value Price)
[PS4] Shiin
[PS4] Street Fighter V: Arcade Edition
JANUARY 19
[PS4] Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom
JANUARY 25
[PS4] Nanatsu no Taizai: The Seven Deadly Sins - Britannia no Tabibito
[PS4] Ninki Seiyuu no Tsukurikata
[PS4] Rei-Jin-G-Lu-P
JANUARY 26
[PS4] Monster Hunter: World
FEBRUARY 1
[PS4] Dragon Ball FighterZ
[PS4] LEGO Marvel Super Heroes: The Game 2
FEBURARY 2
[PS4] EA Sports UFC 3
FEBRUARY 8
[PS4] Dragon's Crown Pro
[PS4] Dynasty Warriors 8
[PS4] Sword Art Online: Fatal Bullet
[PS4] Shadow of The Collossus
FEBRUARY 15
[PS4] Seiken Densetsu 2: Secret of Mana
[PS4] Toaru Majutsu no Virtual-On
FEBURARY 21
[PS4] Metal Gear Survive
FEBRUARY 22
[PS4] Azayaka na Irodori no Naka de, Kimi Rashiku
[PS4] Girls und Panzer: Dream Tank Match
[PS4] Fist of the North Star
[PS4] Kimi no Hitomi ni Hit Me
[PS4] Senran Kagura Burst Re:Newal
MARCH 1
[PS4] Darkest Dungeon
[PS4] Death end re;Quest
[PS4] Far Cry 5
MARCH 8
[PS4] Anata no Shikihime Kyouikutan
MARCH 15
[PS4] Gal*Gun 2
[PS4] Attack on Titan 2
[PS4] Steins;Gate Elite
[PS4] The Silver 2425
[PS4] Winning Post 8 2018
MARCH 16
[PS4] The Crew 2
MARCH 21
[PS4] Valkyria Chronicles 4
MARCH 22
[PS4] D.S. -Dal Segno-
MARCH 29
[PS4] Shining Resonance Re:frain
APRIL 26
[PS4] Doukoku Soshite... Remastered
[PS4] Utawarerumono Trilogy Box
[PS4] Utawarerumono: Chiriyukusha e no Komoriuta Remastered
MAY 17
[PS4] Caligula: Overdose
TBA 2018
[PS4] 13 Sentinels Aegis Rim
[PS4] A Certain Magical Index x Virtual On
[PS4] Ace Combat 7
[PS4] Armoured Core PS4
[PS4] Anonymous; Code
[PS4] Black Clover
[PS4] Black Desert Online
[PS4] BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle
[PS4] Code Vein
[PS4] Catherine
[PS4] Days Gone
[PS4] Detroit
[PS4] Devil May Cry V
[PS4] Disaster Report 4 Plus: Summer Memories
[PS4] Dragon Quest Builders 2
[PS4] Dreams
[PS4] Earth Defense Force: Iron Rain
[PS4] Fighting EX Layer
[PS4] Full Metal Panic! Fight: Who Dares Wins
[PS4] God of War
[PS4] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2018
[PS4] Kingdom Hearts III
[PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV
[PS4] Left Alive
[PS4] Lost Soul Aside
[PS4] My Hero Academia
[PS4] Mobile Suit Gundam: Battle Operation 2
[PS4] Naruto to Boruto: Shinobi Strikers
[PS4] One Piece: World Seeker
[PS4] Persona 5 Dancing Star Night
[PS4] Persona 3 Dancing Moon Night
[PS4] Read Dead Redemption 2
[PS4] Spiderman
[PS4] Soul Calibur VI
[PS4] Sword Art Online: Replication Project
[PS4] Tales of PS4
[PS4] Yakuza Project
[PS4] Zone of Enders: M∀RS
[PS4] 428: Shibuya Scramble
Stacked release schedule, so many that I probably missed some. I think its looking to best year in terms of Japanese support for the PS4. You have two big hitters: MHW and KH3. Then you have some other notable entries from Yakuza, Tales, Persona, MGS, DMC and Dynasty Warriors. PS4 is also getting a ridiculous amount of anime games next year for some reason. Most curious in how Red Dead 2 will perform.
I don't see many other big games being announced for PS4 to release in 2018. Perhaps a FROM software game.
Well it's been a while since a One Piece game truly sold well (because most of the recent release were pretty bad) but if the game is as ambitious as Namco says, it'll do mighty fine I think. One Piece is really massive.
As for Fist of The North Star I'm just basing this one both it and Yakuza being really popular franchises so the potential is there.
As long as the gaps are filled by smaller but still decently releases (which always happens with Sony platforms), the PS4 won't drop too much between the big ones.
JRPGs generally aren't big performance gainers in the holiday. I don't think this is a genre where it being the holidays particularly benefits them compared to something more universal like sports, shooters, mascot games etc. They blow their load first month and rarely have good legs.
200k is a good performance for pretty much any JRPG any month unless it's FF, Pokemon or Kingdom Hearts. Jury still out on if Persona will remain in this realm when 6 launches.
You aren't far off, but you are missing the biggest chunk of buyers. Most XB sales probably go to US soldiers stationed in the area.
Can we please not do this? This comparison isn't meaningful or interesting, but it will encourage the kind of talk that devolves into console wars.
When Switch gets close, sales-Era will not fail to notice.
True but there's also levels of marketing and importance. Which you can see right now we don't need to think of any hypothetical new ARMS games look at the amount of Marketing ARMS recieves right now as a new IP in it's first Christmas. Nintendo is not going to switch gears on it. They'll obviously give it another chance but the chance they'll got out of their way to ensure ARMS becomes a massive IP beyond what they're already doings is low. There's a reasonable chance we won't see another ARMS game until next gen.
Isn't most of the appeal of DQ in Japan that it's core formula essentially hasn't changed in over 30 years?
Yeah I've been dreaming of a DQIII HD remake in the graphical style of DQXI. Or better yet the whole DQI-III trilogy.
Given the daily discussion in this thread, how is that comparison not meaningful?
I mean I would hope at least a few of them from that list could get a million outside World.
You take console wars too seriously. Having the chart is better than not having it. We already know the Switch will be the best selling hardware, the data points are still fun and useful to have.
Holiday months benefit all software as there is an increase in consumer spend in general and sale cuts. So no I wouldn't say 200k in a holiday month is necessarily good. Not sure if you are mistaking but Persona 5 launched at around 450k.
I'm in agreement with this line of thinking. Overall physical software shipped/sold will be down from the 3DS to Switch. It is difficult to make up the lost sales of highly iterative/yearly franchises that the 3DS benefited from like Monster Hunter, Yokai Watch, and Dragon Quest. Those franchises will all surely appear in a big way on Switch, but either the brand has lost value like Yokai Watch or the numbers will be diluted from multi-platform releases like Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter.
Overall revenue from software may be similar though, as I think a lot of focus from developers and consumers will move towards digital for the Switch. It just won't be directly trackable unless there is a change from Nintendo or Enterbrain for more collaboration to collect data.
Nintendo themselves may have a comparable number to the 3DS. We already have a number of titles that are outperforming previous entries, and they just need to keep that up while increasing the volume of titles like they have been.
Switch outselling PS4 doesn't have any significance to the health or performance of the Japanese gaming market, I think.
The situations, products, and market segments are different. Switch vs. Wii U illustrates Nintendo's recovery. PS4 vs PS3 shows that Sony are holding steady or improving. No such conclusions come from Switch vs. PS4 other than, "Hyuck, Switch is kicking Sony's ass. Mwahaha!"
There is also more competition in the holidays and as I said, JRPGs sell the vast bulk of their sales in month 1. If holidays were a huge boon for this genre you would see a large portion of them launch then, especially in the West but you don't. So naw, I disagree with you. There are a handful of JRPGs that launch at 200k in the West and 300k+ is like 5 franchises. You can downplay it all you want but a JRPG launching at 200k in December is a good result.
In regards to Persona since this discussion is about franchises and not individual games the only Persona game to launch >300k is 5. I was saying jury is out on whether 6 will stay consistent or this is just a one time thing for the franchise.
You know perfectly well that the question was about the big hitters (which would have an impact on HW), since you implied that in your first post. Posting a full release schedule makes no sense or we might as well talk about the number of indie games releasing each month on each platform, which would be interesting but nonetheless irrelevant.
As you said, we also can't really predict any game that hasn't been announced yet.
So we have MHW, KH3 and maybe RDR2? Because all the others won't have any noticeable impact.
But P5 isn't like most JRPGs. Again, 200k, be it during the holidays or not, is still good for the genre nowadays in this market.
If you think like a console warrior then maybe, if you want to discuss the sales numbers of the Japanese videogame market then I think it's an interesting comparison to see how quickly each console reached the different milestones.
So Honda sales shouldn't be referenced when discussing Toyota's performance? Same with Samsung vs iPhones. They're competing products, vying for the same third party support and gaming audience. WTF are you talking about?
We don't need a chart to know the PS4 is not competition to the Switch in terms of hardware. That's not why peoppe want it.
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