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Interesting. So with 40% less of a memory bus , 4 GB of of ram and a slower clocked cpu the console would not hold back its bigger brother at all? I dont no jack but I feel like it could especially since I dont expect things to line up perfectly. What if they have to lower the cpu more then they want or they reduce the memory more then you think all in the name of getting the price they need.
It would be great if everything works out perfectly and it alsondoesnt require devs to spend to much time optimizing.
Definitely fake, the controller would barely fit inside the packaging with decent padding.
And the cooling!
Unless this is a possible PS5 base design and there's a Pro as well.
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You're probably reading too much into it. Radeon is AMD's product after all so they were just being thorough in their sentence.
I'm not saying it's RDNA 2 because for all we know it could be RDNA 1.5 like you explained in your previous post. I haven't heard/read AMD mention the word "RDNA 2", so I'm just going with "next-gen RDNA" as that's what they've been calling it for now.
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A box that size would melt in three minutes if it contains anything close to the rumored hardware.
AMD's RT design uses modified TMU's to do the computation and the CU's to do a bit of work.
The SIE silence is bringing out people's creativity. Haha
Assuming the statement was grammatically correct, that wouldn't mean specifically that information would drop further out than one month. It would mean that there would be multiple drops of information because "upcoming months" is plural, as in news dropping in several months. So it could be February and March. Or March and May. Or it could have been a poor construct that doesn't mean what it says at all.
The one thing it doesn't do is rule out February as a possibility.
At least Microsoft did cut the myth and showed the console design. Yet still some fake 3D videos came circulating nevertheless. XD
People are unstoppable.
Except that design isn't even creative. It's literally just the PlayStation TV lol:
Welcome back bro haha Becareful with your jokes not all mods are familiar With it unfortunately 😜😆Except that design isn't even creative. It's literally just the PlayStation TV lol:
I'm thinking May. Everything is pointing at Sony wanting to do a event/reveal where they can lay out all the plans, specs, and features for the device.
Completely real man! Why wouldn't it be! Lets ignore the fact devs don't even have a final dev kit.
MS wants devs to build for Series X first and then port down to Lockhart. The opposite happening is supposedly why Lockhart got canned to begin with, but something must have changed for them to bring it back.
Their plan looks to be that Series X is 4K and Lockhart 1440p, and Lockhart having lower quality textures with the RAM difference.
CPU should be the closest comparison between the two as that would need to pick up the weight of the lower spec GPU, and the SSD should be exactly equal.
I think MS is hitting the targets they want in performance and BOM which is why they are supposedly going forward with Lockhart.
I prefer the black PS5 box art out of all. It reminds me of the legendary PS2 box arts.I know. There are much better concepts. Love the black ghost of Tsushima someone made. Hope Sony goes with that look.
Shakespeare performed his works in the globe, it's the perfect time for a circular console.
I had a dream and mark cerny was there. Feb 5th was the date of the reveal. No press just online.
Of course that seems too short notice to build any hype. But i was thinking they dont need to invite press. They could reveal to everyone at the same time. And the hype is already there.
Of course that seems too short notice to build any hype. But i was thinking they dont need to invite press. They could reveal to everyone at the same time. And the hype is already there.
I had a dream a few nights ago that Xbox Series X consoles were revealed and I was taking the coverings off of them. They were cardboard consoles. I think had this dream because my brain was remembering back in December when whoever made a cardboard Xbox Series X based on the dimensions of the USB port.
Hodor.MS told everyone they were at 12TF back in May. You just had to read into things a bit:
You are right, my bad. I didn't take into account the Tensor cores.
On the package it says "Palystation 5" and "Taype c". 😄
So its legit. Finally we see the real design.
Why do you think they told us the next name of their new game system and only showed that heavily redesigned logo of PS5 during CES 2020?
They were actually thinking of changing the name to: JetEngine5, also internally called JaguarEngine5. They wanted the Jaguar CPU back in PS5 because its raw performance kicks ass and has a nice name.
Fixed and lol trying to figure out how you can connect them all. It's a mess and confusing.
Gotta say that I'm interested in how everything will eventually fit and what we got wrong. :)
Looks like PS3 slim and the PS4 Pro had a baby..... I dislike the hamburger design.
Personally i hope XsX and JE5 will settle and target1440p (recommendation for devs). Instead of wasting resources to go to 4k.
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Can you actually confirm this or is this speculation? I am pretty sure there are devs out there that would prioritize fidelity over resolution. And based on the system balance they would maybe take some of the ram expensive techniques and transform them to be less ram expensive, but instead more processor expensive. This is just a theoretical example of how the entire engine could be changed based on the balance of TFLOPs in the entire system.
Hey! That would be me! We've made the big time now boys, were in dreams!!
11.3 for that speculative full cache cpu. Starting to get to a feasible 15% gap between that and a 9.6TF ps5 which would be 'close' in some insiders view.
well, no esram this time around to take precious space from the CUs and they also designed the 1X which is about the size of PS4pro, quieter and ~40% more powerful
well we don't know what's under the hood. Yes, no esram but maybe they have a full zen with cache (may make it more suited to dual purposing servers for xcloud/azure), or some DLSS equivalent?
the likely option is it'sjust CUs but we don't know for certain
How it is done is kind of irrelevant - it just shows how chasing your tail on native resolutions is just a colossal waste of resources at 4K+. The reconstructed images look better than native 4K and run significantly better too - it's a win-win. Which is why it really boggles my mind you have a contingent of people who want native 4K rather than for developers to use the extra power of the new consoles to have better reconstruction and thus better looking/running games.
Often these people who are against the "cheating" of reconstruction are also very keen on VRS, because that "cheating" is ok. For reasons.
Ultimately what we want are the best looking and best running games. That means reconstruction (and VRS, and dynamic res and every other tool in the box developers have to "cheat"). Unless you want worse looking and running games for some bizarre reason.
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depending on how you define "separate". It's not in the traditional shader units， but it's coupled/bundled with shader units. Which means usually 1 or a small group of shaders would have a bundled RT Core. So the more the CUs(SMs), the more the RT cores.
what is certain is that the design philosophy of the XSX is the same of the 1X: maximize power. As stated by Spencer the same team that gave us the 1x is in charge of the xsx. I wouldn't take the OG xbox one as reference as the post I quoted implied
What boggles the mind is those that think half the detail with nasty artificial sharpening looks "better" than the real deal.
But in general I agree that on consoles where power is limited it makes sense to use reconstruction where necessary, and those who want native 4K can play on PC, or ultimately buy the "Pro" consoles should they be a thing.
But let's not pretend that reconstruction doesn't objectively look worse and only those who say it does are somehow lying because it's "cheating' or whatever. That's like those crazy fools who increase sharpness from 0 on their TV.
im not - and the most likely situation is a large chip around 54-56CU. I'm just trying to avoid applying absolutes to anything when even for Xbox we only have incredible ly slim evidence for anything on GPU side
Um, no. DLSS adds details due to high resolution training feed.
Native resolution (1440p)
native resolution + max sharpening
DLSS quality, sharpening at default (like first pic)
For example, look at the third flag rope, in native resolution its barely visible, while in the DLSS image you can clearly see the thin line where the flags are attached. Why do you think this looks objectively worse? Maybe you should open your mind to new techniques.
Also, look at the huge performance boost. 105 FPS to 143 FPS!
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