I hope so. I'd love to have NSMBU.Looks like it's getting all 3 of those titles this year if the NSMBU rumour is true.
I hope so. I'd love to have NSMBU.Looks like it's getting all 3 of those titles this year if the NSMBU rumour is true.
Yeah switch has an advantage there, I don't think an awful lot of people care too much about playing non demanding indie games and the like at 4k 60fps or higher . Reaching the native resolution at good performance is enough for large number of people and thus being portable is a rather large advantage.And as I've been trying to point out, that's all down to personal preference.
And those games can be played with pretty good portability on a laptop or windows tablet. It all depends on how people prefer to game.
Pretty much sums my up my experience as well.I don't think most people that complain about the quantity of games on Switch actually think there are no games on Switch.
What they're saying is that there aren't very many games that I can't already play on PC/PS4/Xbox that I am actually interested in.
I've felt a little of that because I feel no reason to buy multiplats on Switch, because I'd rather play them on PC or X1X. So, my switch is just used for high quality exclusives that interest me.
I've played some great games on Switch, but there aren't a ton of games that I'm excited to buy on it right now. So, for me, personally, there's a little bit if a drought of switch games. Not that there is an actual lack of games on Switch, there's just a lack of exclusive games I'm personally interested in.
What's a "lazy mobile port"? Are Gorogoa, Frame Collection, Heroki lazy mobile ports? If not, what games are?
How so?Highlighted and underlined is pretty disingenuous argumentation. Especially for two specific titles mentioned.
I think you should have just stuck to the personal preference angle
You've gamed on laptop before right? I'm typing on a laptop right now and I can tell you it's nowhere close to gaming on a portable system.
I'm not saying it doesn't have an advantage, but guess what. Not everyone has the same preferences.Yeah switch has an advantage there, I don't think an awful lot of people care too much about playing non demanding indie games and the like at 4k 60fps or higher . Reaching the native resolution at good performance is enough for large number of people and thus being portable is a rather large advantage.
So, you don't like it. That's fine.You've gamed on laptop before right? I'm typing on a laptop right now and I can tell you it's nowhere close to gaming on a portable system.
I'm saying it's a different experience rather than like which is what we're talking about here.So, you don't like it. That's fine.
Does that mean no one else can prefer to game that way?
What we're talking about is that not everyone has the same preferences and people may prefer to play certain games on a platform other than Switch.I'm saying it's a different experience rather than like which is what we're talking about here.
No one is arguing that even the person you were originally talking about doesn't seem to be saying that, they're saying a reason why someone would prefer that experience to others.What we're talking about is that not everyone has the same preferences and people may prefer to play certain games on a platform other than Switch.
Just because a game is on Switch doesn't mean everyone would rather play it there.
Then you jumped into this thread in a weird place, my friend. lol.No one is arguing that even the person you were originally talking about doesn't seem to be saying that, they're saying a reason why someone would prefer that experience to others.
That must mean no one in the whole world has done so. Not a single one of the 500k+ owners of the game on PC have ever played it on a laptop, right?I've never seen anyone try and play hollow knight on a laptop.
This doesn't really match with my experience. I'm sure the Switch will catch up eventually, but right now I can think of like, 30 really excellent games on the 3DS and maybe 4 on the Switch, which is about right given each console's lifespan. It's possible that I just have weird preferences or that the good Switch games are buried under a mountain of indie shovelware though.
I'm frankly ignorant of PC sales of the game, but I assume most owners have it on steam to play at home like a normal console game with an Xbox controller.That must mean no one in the whole world has done so. Not a single one of the 500k+ owners of the game on PC have ever played it on a laptop, right?
So you're saying that it doesn't, but you just like the 3DS library more. I mean, that's fine but let's not lie about the critical reception of each library.Sorry, 3DS destroys the Switch in number of quality titles (TO ME). Switch doesn't even have a Pokemon game yet, or Smash, or 2D Mario. And given that the 3DS also plays DS titles, it's not remotely close.
I'm talking about the games that generally sell Nintendo devices to Nintendo fans. Nintendo's own games. And the Switch can't touch the 3DS in that regard yet.So you're saying that it doesn't, but you just like the 3DS library more. I mean, that's fine but let's not lie about the critical reception of each library.
What... is this arbitrary goalpost we've moved to? The Switch library in pure volume is on the cusp of passing the 3DS and the volume of critically acclaimed games has already passed it iirc.I'm talking about the games that generally sell Nintendo devices to Nintendo fans. Nintendo's own games. And the Switch can't touch the 3DS in that regard yet.
And as I've been trying to point out, that's all down to personal preference.
And those games can be played with pretty good portability on a laptop or windows tablet. It all depends on how people prefer to game.
I am not in any way arguing that the same quantity of people would do both.I'm frankly ignorant of PC sales of the game, but I assume most owners have it on steam to play at home like a normal console game with an Xbox controller.
You're trying to argue it's just as convenient/likely /plausible someone is going to lug their Windows tablet or laptop around to play a copy of Hollow Knight outdoors.
I'm sure there are some people who play it on their laptop at home, while in the washroom. Let's hope to god the laptop doesn't fall off their lap .
This is me also. Only in it for the exclusivesI don't think most people that complain about the quantity of games on Switch actually think there are no games on Switch.
What they're saying is that there aren't very many games that I can't already play on PC/PS4/Xbox that I am actually interested in.
I've felt a little of that because I feel no reason to buy multiplats on Switch, because I'd rather play them on PC or X1X. So, my switch is just used for high quality exclusives that interest me.
I've played some great games on Switch, but there aren't a ton of games that I'm excited to buy on it right now. So, for me, personally, there's a little bit if a drought of switch games. Not that there is an actual lack of games on Switch, there's just a lack of exclusive games I'm personally interested in.
Never said there was no reason to play multiplats on switch for anyone anywhere.Having a preference doesn't mean that (there is no reason to play multiplats on Switch), I can't say that (there is no reason to play multiplats) on PC just because they are available elsewhere or because I prefer playing them on another platform. I've played Inside on Switch for the first time, it is a Switch game to me as much as it is a multi-platform game.
Switch is not a system for exclusives only like many of Nintendo's systems in the past, not with this big and varied library. it can very well be a main system for certain types of players. for indie games, I'd say Switch is the lead platform in the market right now.
and it has been available only for a year and half, it will end up with a huge library with titles of all kinds.
That goalpost you have a problem with but not the one they used initially that erases the fact that all DS games work on the 3DS? I'm a huge fan of the Switch, but saying the library is remotely close to the 3DS in terms of pure quality is insane. Again, not a single Pokemon game, or Animal Crossing, or Metroid, or Smash.What... is this arbitrary goalpost we've moved to? The Switch library in pure volume is on the cusp of passing the 3DS and the volume of critically acclaimed games has already passed it iirc.
Again, the question originally which had a higher quality library, and the objective truth is that the Switch has a greater number of critically acclaimed titles than the 3DS while still not have yet passed in in volume of titles.That goalpost you have a problem with but not the one they used initially that erases the fact that all DS games work on the 3DS? I'm a huge fan of the Switch, but saying the library is remotely close to the 3DS in terms of pure quality is insane. Again, not a single Pokemon game, or Animal Crossing, or Metroid, or Smash.
And I'd argue that's a terrible argument. The 3DS has far more highly rated titles than are available to me on Switch. And it's not even close thanks to VC and DS titles being available on 3DS.Again, the question originally which had a higher quality library, and the objective truth is that the Switch has a greater number of critically acclaimed titles than the 3DS while still not have yet passed in in volume of titles.
What the libraries means to you or any specific person doesn't matter. What the reality of the situation is, is that the Switch's library has grown to the point of almost passing g the 3DS in volume, and passing it in critically acclaimed titles.And I'd argue that's a terrible argument. The 3DS has far more highly rated titles than are available to me on Switch. And it's not even close thanks to VC and DS titles being available on 3DS.
It's mainly shovelware and ports. Nothing to be proud of IMHO.
Quality > Quantity.
No, it isn't. Stop with the shovelware bullshit.
And ports are valuable as any other. The majority of those never appeared on a Nintendo platform in first place.
It's a party game without Mario in the title or Nintendo's 1P pedigree that is also a port of nearly 7yr old game. It wasn't going to set the charts on fire at launch. Performance can't really be judged at all until post holiday.
Except it hasn't unless you blindly ignore VC and DS.What the libraries means to you or any specific person doesn't matter. What the reality of the situation is, is that the Switch's library has grown to the point of almost passing g the 3DS in volume, and passing it in critically acclaimed titles.
We shouldnt include indies??
For my own curiosity, what data do we have to base this on?
I said IMHO. And no, Ports mean shit to me. The Switch is probably the worst console ever made when it comes down to ports. As someone who isn't really interested in the mobile aspect and who owns a big Wii U library, the Switch has not much to offer. And yes, there is quite a bit of shovelware. Just like on Steam, the PSN and Xbox One. Everybody publishes everything on every device nowadays. These numbers mean nothing. I guess Xbox One, PS4 and Steam all have record numbers in published games in the past few years. There is a lot of trash filling up the shops.
Seems like "kinda bombed" is a rather tenuous claim to make, then. I wouldn't expect Go Vacation to be the type of game that shoots to the top of the eShop Charts on release, which is more typical of core-oriented games IMO. If anything, I think the game will do a slow burn to 500,000+, with a continued presence on retail shelves and word-of-mouth among casuals propelling it.Not on July NDP charts, not on eshop top sellers charts.
Ok ,it was released less than a week before July ended, so it could explain NPD and it may very well sell consistently over the holidays, but It's absence on the eshop chart is the most telling.
Seems like "kinda bombed" is a rather tenuous claim to make, then. I wouldn't expect Go Vacation to be the type of game that shoots to the top of the eShop Charts on release, which is more typical of core-oriented games IMO. If anything, I think the game will do a slow burn to 500,000+, with a continued presence on retail shelves and word-of-mouth among casuals propelling it.
I said IMHO. And no, Ports mean shit to me. The Switch is probably the worst console ever made when it comes down to ports. As someone who isn't really interested in the mobile aspect and who owns a big Wii U library, the Switch has not much to offer. And yes, there is quite a bit of shovelware. Just like on Steam, the PSN and Xbox One. Everybody publishes everything on every device nowadays. These numbers mean nothing. I guess Xbox One, PS4 and Steam all have record numbers in published games in the past few years. There is a lot of trash filling up the shops.
Ok. I was just agreeing with him.
*turns on Switch*
*gets lost and overwhelmed in eshop*
*turns off Switch*
Is the eshop bad or is it me, I would like to know what to buy but eh.