Is this the same amazon we used to surmise the Switch was the best selling hardware in November?
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NPD November 2017: Call of duty WW2 #1 SW, PS4 #1 HW
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Is this the same amazon we used to surmise the Switch was the best selling hardware in November?
Sony and MS digital revenue is a lot because of their cuts from 3rd party games which is completely not there in Nintendo platform (other than some indies and ports even those won't big enough as they will be few indies which have sold better than others but you have to consider other platforms have a way many options to choose for users in games compared to limited in Switch) and its hard to compete without 3rd party. Nintendo will never catch up PS/XB in online as Sony and MS are moving at faster pace than Nintendo who still do not have proper online and might take another year or two to roll out their online by then PS/XB will have even more powerful online infrastructure from next generation.
Nintendo will always be a generation back compared to others in every way, and their strengths are only IP's which will be bring good profits due to insane attach ratios, but not growth to their platform in the same vein of Sony/MS ever in 3rd party as they lost this track long time ago which is not easy to fix, because competition is not sitting idle and they are more powerful due to long term relationships with 3rd party publishers and fan base with IP association.
Nintendo will always be a generation back compared to others in every way, and their strengths are only IP's which will be bring good profits due to insane attach ratios, but not growth to their platform in the same vein of Sony/MS ever in 3rd party as they lost this track long time ago which is not easy to fix, because competition is not sitting idle and they are more powerful due to long term relationships with 3rd party publishers and fan base with IP association.
PS4 Slim was the leading SKU in November and Amazon was consistent with that (up to the cutoff date for NPD). Switch having multiple SKUs ranked just threw some people off.
If those Nintendo games were on the PS4 or X1, they would be competing against a lot more games for people's money and would lose sales. Higher installbase doesn't automatically mean higher software sales.
Someone earlier compared Microsoft Xbox division to the Whig party...and not one peep out of you...strange.
No, Amazon had PS4 > XB1 > Switch for November NPD (i.e before CM).
Is it just a coincidence that PSN revenue took off the year they started charging for services?
Keep in mind that all the Nintendo quarters are being compared to PS3 generation, not the current gen. Even without PS4's success, Sony's digital growth strongly outpaced Nintendo's.
Makes sense...the 3ds was the software sales driver for Nintendo during that period you are comparing...not only just cheaper games on average than the PS3, but I would imagine much less digital adoption than a home console with large hard drives.
I think that's his point. Accruing that 1.7m gap over Xbox One took the PS4 more than three years.
In the first 11 months of 2017, it increased the gap by a further ~1.3m. That's a notable acceleration, especially for Microsoft's strongest territory.
Yes, there are definitely reasons why Nintendo has done so very poorly in this area.
And please try to avoid triple posting.
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Indeed. It shows how Sony has been able to monetise its online platform directly and provide third parties a way to monetise beyond the initial full game sale too. So not only has growth come from full game downloads, but all these other areas too.
That's certainly part of it. But as above, it all adds up.
And yes, please stop double and triple posting. This forum has a multi quote feature and edit feature. I'd recommend clicking the quote button on each post you want to quote and reading all posts before making your own.
Thank you.
Considering that we already have figures of Nintendo titles on a very healthy install base that released in a very competitive environment on a single platform (the Nintendo Wii), I think it's safe to say that even factoring in potential lost sales (mostly from 1st party games competing against themselves), it would still yield a net positive result in Nintendo's favor.
Look at the top 10 video game sales of all time
1 Tetris
2 Minecraft
3 Grand Theft Auto V
4 Wii Sports
5 Super Mario Bros.
6 Mario Kart Wii
7 Wii Sports Resort
8 Pokémon Red, Green and Blue Game Freak Nintendo February 27, 1996 Game Boy 31,380,000 [10]
9 New Super Mario Bros. Nintendo EAD Nintendo May 15, 2006 Nintendo DS 30,800,000 [11]
10 New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Many of those Wii titles were competing against each other (so sales were lost) but they STILL sold a shit ton. In fact, they've sold more than most multiplat AAA titles combined with the exception of GTAV. So while higher install base doesn't guarantee higher sales, it is perfectly reasonable to expect a higher baseline of sales compared to other titles on the platform. If you brought the Wii's userbase over to the PS4 or XBO, there's very little doubt in my mind that they would completely dominate the platform.
And before you mention the fact that some of those titles were bundled, there's no reason why they couldn't be bundled with the PS4 or XBO alternatively.
Thanks for confirming. Seems like they are poised to grow that digital revenue in the upcoming years at least.
From my understanding, digital downloads are less popular in Japan. Japan was 3DS strongest market and Wii U was just poor everywhere. Switch being a stronger platform in Western regions should help along with other things like a paid subscription service.
You only have you to blame for that, I said multiple times that Black Friday would make Xbox and Playstation outsell Switch by hundred of thousands, my prediction was pretty close on Ps4 and Xbox but still off on Switch.
Just stating that it is doing great on Amazon nothing else.
Thanks.
This means Nintendo will always have a huge disadvantage as long as they don´t get those huge third party mtx games like Destiny or Overwatch.
they have their mobile games for that.
next step will be bringing both worlds together.
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Its probably stronger because digital and DLC are more popular now, and it has MTX.
Hmm. This has me thinking the PS4 could be #1 in December again. The CoD bundle being discounted seems like a bigger deal than the BFII one.
It is, but the question is the stock situation.
It's a limited edition bundle. Amazon.com for example is already sold out of the CoD bundle since forever.
Maybe some retailer insider could say if they're even restocked in December, which i doubt.
Not sure about that, Star Wars movie is hitting that should drive sales among casuals but WW2 is a juggernaut so who knows lol
Benji said it was easy to find. Stock should not be a huge issue.
I know, but there is a huge! difference between easy to find and having 300k stock in the wild that will run out for one SKU, or easy to find and having 500k stock in the wild that's being replenished constantly for another SKU.
CoD is a much bigger franchise in the video game industry. And WW2 has shown how strong the series continues to be. I think most will choose it over BFII if the stock allows.
As long as consoles are continuing to sell, GTA5 is going to sell.
Easy to find doesn't mean much when December is a million plus month, I doubt they have 500K of those.
Everybody that buys a new console probably doesn't have GTAV.
It is the game to buy when you get a new console.
Indeed, and I think the other issue with the Amazon rankings is that the Switch has been in and out of stock on Amazon all month. They didn't really run into stock issues in November but it seems like it's happening now.
No idea what the ranking is gonna look like this month, but we can be sure that the Switch and PS4 will both be selling very well. Hopefully XB1 too.
There's been this post is some form every month for 3+ years now.
Ps4 might beat Ps3 by the end of this month then? absolutely crazy!
Edit : Read somewhere that Ps3 was at ~24M in the US, might be wrong but still Ps4 might beat it very soon.
Okay now it's getting really weird.
I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but I believe that post was being sarcastic :)
Its ranking will be interesting. If it is relatively high, it will speak to the amount of units sold since it is at a $29.99 MSRP.
Yeah, me too. Seems like it's a rare breed we are from, though.
And we will see it for the years to come, until GTAVI releases. Then it'll be "How is GTAVI still charting?!"
Good to see all PS4 bundles are on sale. The CoD bundle should see good movement thanks to CoD's momentum.
Will be interesting to see how rdr2 does. If its half as well as gtav then it will be the 2nd best selling game of the generation.
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