the 3ds had to struggle to do what the switch did at a higher price and while supply-constrained.The 3DS has many mainline Pokemon games. But it will struggle to reach Wii numbers.
the 3ds had to struggle to do what the switch did at a higher price and while supply-constrained.The 3DS has many mainline Pokemon games. But it will struggle to reach Wii numbers.
Jesus Christ I'm so lucky I ordered on Saturday
The 3DS also had an absolutely terrible software library for the first ~6 months.the 3ds had to struggle to do what the switch did at a higher price and while supply-constrained.
the 3ds had to struggle to do what the switch did at a higher price and while supply-constrained.
yep. the switch won't be having to fight to gain any sort of momentum. it already has a bunch and it will only get better from here.The 3DS also had an absolutely terrible software library for the first ~6 months.
They are talking about the hourly chart.What Amazon chart is everyone talking about in here?
In November, the first PS4 SKU comes after two Switch and two 1X SKU's.
3DS was technically a mess and there were no games during and after launch.
Switch has been way more impressive on those regards.
I agree.3DS was technically a mess and there were no games during and after launch.
Switch has been way more impressive on those regards. Perfect 1st party support and it's even getting current gen ports. Switch is a way better deal.
and that should lead to much better sales for the switch in the long run. nintendo isn't in any need to rush titles for the holiday, and switch skus keep getting added instead of canceled, like the 3ds. this should broaden the fanbase and result in even higher sales moving forward the more variety there is.
I agree.
Btw, has anyone told you yet that your avatar looks like the Sam Tarly actor from GoT? :)
Eh, don't worry. With the way Amazon operates, I wouldn't be surprised if it's suddenly appearing during black friday weekend.
3DS had very very good sales in Japan but disappointing sales outside of it.The 3DS has many mainline Pokemon games. But it will struggle to reach Wii numbers.
If Nintendo starts to treat the Switch as their next handheld, then yes, I do expect very good results. It's just very hard to reach 100mln+ units sold nowadays. You have to appeal to all markets to do so.
Maybe if Switch will also get GTA and good versions of Call of Duty and other big 3rd party games. The Switch doesn't have a Wii Sport etc.
The PS4 slim was defiently in the top 5 yesterday. Now at #34 which is kinda bizarre.
Mario Switch Bundle for $485 from a seller fulfilled by Amazon. WTF.
the switch doesn't need a wii sports, but zelda and mario odyssey are definitely going to be evergreen system sellers. the value in the switch isn't within particular software, but the switch being a hybrid in and of itself. it opens up new gameplay possibilities for people who don't usually have time for games, but enjoy non-mobile games; it makes the dream of console-like games on the go a reality; it makes the idea of handheld games on the big screen a constant and real thing; it removes the need for two platforms for parents thanks to the joycons - the system appeals to a lot of people for a lot of different reasons.
prior to the switch launching, i expected that the platform would consolidate nintendo's and sony's handheld offerings (nintendo's first and third party support and sony's third-party support), plus nintendo's third-party console support (family games), as well as indie titles that hit everything. that's all come true so far, but what i wasn't expecting was that those early third-party offerings would be so popular that they would far eclipse multiplatform releases and expectations across the board. i certainly didn't expect for games like doom and skyrim to actually be very possibly big successes. and i really couldn't have anticipated that the system would have its first year filled with big games with open world game design. it changes the conversation for the platform going forward and what to expect out of 2018 and beyond.
the switch has a lot of buzz going for it right now. late ports or not, studios are greenlighting switch versions just to get in on an excited and lucrative fanbase that's taking off in the west and in japan. i think it also needs to be stated that nintendo of 2011 is not nintendo of 2017. nintendo was gearing up for the wii u launch in 2011, pulling apart a 3-man link between worlds team to direct nintendoland and nsmbu, and rushing 3d land and mario kart 7 to meet the holidays. the wii was still getting games. the ds was still getting games. their new hq was still under construction and they hadn't launched any mobile initiative. as we look at 2018, their support is focused almost solely on two platforms: mobile and switch, and they were able to get what they wanted out of mobile in particular, which was raise brand awareness to increase their dedicated hardware game sales. they're all on the same page about building a brand outside of the dedicated hardware market and keeping it going with talks of movies and tv shows and theme parks. the switch of 2017 is all their planning from 2014 or 2015 finally paying off, and they're just getting started.
Yes, Nintendo is way more focused now. It definitely shows. The Switch has been getting great support since launch. Mario just released and Xenoblade is just around the corner. It's very impressive.
It will also become my main platform of choice for many future indie titles. I love the handheld aspect of it.
But this is still just the beginning. If Nintendo keeps this pace, then they won't be having any problems. But I still think that you'll need the GTA, Fifa and Call of Duty crowd to really reach the highest hw numbers in the end. Especially when there's no software like Wii Sport and Wii Fit to fill the gap.
Don't think the Switch will sell more than the Wii or even the Ps4 because of that. The hybrid aspect of Switch won't change much in the end. I'd be very surprised.
i think the ps4 should outsell the wii by a good 20 million at this rate. the thing about the 3ds is that it had a few good early years and then the rest of its later years were pretty consistently lower. part of this is with nintendo focusing on the wii u and upcoming switch titles. part of this is the poor start killing any potential for the platform to have any genuine excitement around it. nintendo had to sort of manufacture a fanbase around it by forcing out games and lowering the price far below what they had initially expected. i think the only genuine buzz that happened for the 3ds was during the 2010 e3 show and in the leadup to pokemon sun and moon (which was basically due to pokemon go). with the switch, nintendo's 20-24 games they publish per year won't be split between two handheld platforms and two console platforms, but a mobile and a dedicated game platform. the system should get at least a couple form factor revisions, the earliest one i expect would be a 'switch mini' to replace nintendo's dedicated hardware form factor the 3ds had while being a cheaper point of entry for pokemon in 2018 or early 2019. later there should be a 'switch pro' equivalent to get higher-end users to double dip.Yes, Nintendo is way more focused now. It definitely shows. The Switch has been getting great support since launch. Mario just released and Xenoblade is around the corner. It's very impressive.
It will also become my main platform of choice for many future indie titles. I love the handheld aspect of it.
But this is still just the beginning. If Nintendo keeps this pace, then they won't be having any problems. But I still think that you'll need the GTA, Fifa and Call of Duty crowd to really reach the highest hw numbers in the end. Especially when there's no software like Wii Sport and Wii Fit to fill the gap.
Don't think the Switch will sell more than the Wii or even the Ps4 because of that. The hybrid aspect of Switch won't change much in the end. I'd be very surprised.
it took almost 4 years for most people in this thread to finally admit that PS4 was going to pass 100million easily, but the Switch is having those predictions from day 1.
Good to know that we don't have to read the word 'frontloaded' a thousand times anymore.
No? Switch was predicted to sell like N64 at best day. And I am not sure what this comment improve the conversation, if you disagree that the Switch will hit 100millions just say so.it took almost 4 years for most people in this thread to finally admit that PS4 was going to pass 100million easily, but the Switch is having those predictions from day 1.
Good to know that we don't have to read the word 'frontloaded' a thousand times anymore.
Also XBO is likely going to fall behind XB 360.different times. 360, wii, and ps3 were basically dead in 2012 and 2013, and the surge was so big initially in 2013 and dropped so hard in 2014 that it didn't seem healthy. as this generation has gone on, those platforms have both been pretty much selling really hot in the holiday season but a bit cold relative to the previous leading platforms from the generations earlier. combined with nothing but 3ds doing well in japan and it didn't seem like anything was really stable in those years. i think it took people a while to understand that the market had changed a bit to make consoles more seasonal than before, and that the markets in which hardware is sold have changed too (100m is still possible, but japan, for instance, isn't quite as necessary to that anymore).
the switch on the other hand released in march and was difficult to find for six months, even through traditionally poor months for the video game industry, and it was like that around the world. the demand was unusual and consistent and it painted a different picture. i'd say that with the ps4 doing so well four years after launch, it also lends credence to the idea that another platform can hit 100m.
For me it's just something interesting to follow.
You have a racing genre that's losing prominence. A juggernaut franchise like GT and then Forza both trying to remain relevant.
One sort of embraced the Call of Duty matra and keeps high brand awareness year after year while the other takes a more traditional 3 year approach and still considerably outsells the competition.
Which approach is better? Is Forza or others eating away at the GT pie? Or is it simple the genre losing popularity, especially in the west.
It'll be interesting to track the sales of each during the holidays.
Since people were talking about Amazon charts in here, here is a cool link to follow:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2017-11/videogames/
This is specifically November 2017 sales. Will be an interesting chart to follow through this week. The $199 PS4 is currently sitting at #34.
How is Mario Kart Wii in the top 100?!Since people were talking about Amazon charts in here, here is a cool link to follow:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2017-11/videogames/
This is specifically November 2017 sales. Will be an interesting chart to follow through this week. The $199 PS4 is currently sitting at #34.
That particular SKU jumped from nonexistent in the monthly November to #34 with 1 day of data (yesterday).What Amazon chart is everyone talking about in here?
In November, the first PS4 SKU comes after two Switch and two 1X SKU's.
Agreed. Was the Xbox One S ahead of the PS4 earlier this month?
Probably the same reason that Just Dance 2018 is.
I mean, JD2018 didn't release a decade ago though. MKWii already sold 30m+.
Plenty more Wii in the sea.I mean, JD2018 didn't release a decade ago though. MKWii already sold 30m+.
I mean, JD2018 didn't release a decade ago though. MKWii already sold 30m+.
It's still not quite a non-issue but they are probably also hoarding stock for Black Friday.Any retail people here have any interesting news on Switch availability? I was taking my kid to random toy / electronic stores in my area over the weekend and none of them had the Switch (Best Buy, Toys R Us, Gamestop, Walmart). Obviously anecdotal but I was under the impression stock was a non-issue now but it seems some places are still having a hard time getting / keeping the system.
Also it seems BestBuy.com is sold out of Switch and Amazon no longer says 'in stock' but 'Ships when available in 1-2 days.'
SMO is ahead of a $20 PSN card. That surprises me.Since people were talking about Amazon charts in here, here is a cool link to follow:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2017-11/videogames/
This is specifically November 2017 sales. Will be an interesting chart to follow through this week. The $199 PS4 is currently sitting at #34.
Any retail people here have any interesting news on Switch availability? I was taking my kid to random toy / electronic stores in my area over the weekend and none of them had the Switch (Best Buy, Toys R Us, Gamestop, Walmart). Obviously anecdotal but I was under the impression stock was a non-issue now but it seems some places are still having a hard time getting / keeping the system.
Also it seems BestBuy.com is sold out of Switch and Amazon no longer says 'in stock' but 'Ships when available in 1-2 days.'
Any retail people here have any interesting news on Switch availability? I was taking my kid to random toy / electronic stores in my area over the weekend and none of them had the Switch (Best Buy, Toys R Us, Gamestop, Walmart). Obviously anecdotal but I was under the impression stock was a non-issue now but it seems some places are still having a hard time getting / keeping the system.
Also it seems BestBuy.com is sold out of Switch and Amazon no longer says 'in stock' but 'Ships when available in 1-2 days.'
Forget my Splatoon prediction. I predicted 15 million Switch shipped by the end of 2017 IN JANUARY. Yes, January. This is by far the best prediction i ever made lmao, people were still talking about Wii U level at that point.
This logic does not makes sense at all. Why should this only matter at launch? Switch will always have a bigger potential than 3DS, this won't change. Not only this, but the gap will increase over the years, and by a huge margin. Maybe you forget Switch is 300$, and is doing better than 3DS at 170$. And it won't have stock issue next year as well. Calling it, Switch will double 3DS lifetime sales in the US
It's probably obvious to most but Amazon hourly rankings are only important insomuch as how long something stays at its current place in the rankings. If we see the PS4 at the top of the hourly rankings this whole week then it'll be shooting up the monthly rankings pretty heavily too.
Any retail people here have any interesting news on Switch availability? I was taking my kid to random toy / electronic stores in my area over the weekend and none of them had the Switch (Best Buy, Toys R Us, Gamestop, Walmart). Obviously anecdotal but I was under the impression stock was a non-issue now but it seems some places are still having a hard time getting / keeping the system.
Also it seems BestBuy.com is sold out of Switch and Amazon no longer says 'in stock' but 'Ships when available in 1-2 days.'
Any retail people here have any interesting news on Switch availability? I was taking my kid to random toy / electronic stores in my area over the weekend and none of them had the Switch (Best Buy, Toys R Us, Gamestop, Walmart). Obviously anecdotal but I was under the impression stock was a non-issue now but it seems some places are still having a hard time getting / keeping the system.
Also it seems BestBuy.com is sold out of Switch and Amazon no longer says 'in stock' but 'Ships when available in 1-2 days.'
Since people were talking about Amazon charts in here, here is a cool link to follow:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2017-11/videogames/
This is specifically November 2017 sales. Will be an interesting chart to follow through this week. The $199 PS4 is currently sitting at #34.
Digital too much manPS+ cards > every other game and console
Why are there so many PS+ cards 0_0
It's pretty interesting that the Xbox One in 2016 sold almost exactly the same as the Xbox 360 in 2008 with ~4.730k unitsAlso XBO is likely going to fall behind XB 360.
in US XB 360 peaked in its 7th year (2011).