Ok, second best dps then (and still the most picked character on all consoles the last few months).
I never used a probability, actually. I simply pointed out the gap between two teams who missed the playoffs and those who didn't was fairly insignificant, and that a character of Hanzo's strength may have benefited them. And the fact it may have benefited them means in terms of fairness they should have waited to patch him in once all teams had access to him (again doing so between stages is fine because all teams receive that update). Arguing that because some teams benefited from a previous set of rules so they should get further benefits in a new set of rules is not an argument I find convincing or even logical since the rules of play are different between both. One determining another is rather baseless.
And thats fine. You can accept that thats a fair way to run it. But by and large most serious competitive sport organizations and leagues run it the opposite way for a reason.
Yeah, but his impact is less than even, say Brigitte, cause while Hanzo defines the meta on ladder, we saw several comps that his playstyle should theoretically counter tonight. Like, LAG's Bastion strat shouldn't have worked in this new double sniper meta, but it did. OWL is just a very different environment.
Okay, the logical corollary of you saying that my probability of "~0" is unlikely is that you are proposing a probability of "> 0". But my bad, you didn't actually say that. Either way, my point was there was
lots of factors that booted out Seoul and Houston, and I do not believe strong Hanzo would've helped. For example:
- Houston got screwed by their schedule, missing arguably 4 easy wins in LAV, Dallas, Shanghai, and then Seoul respectively
- Seoul started experimenting with their support/tank lineup in late stage 3/all of stage 4
Either way, you and I are just guessing. But really, the crux of our disagreement is centred around our perceptions of how impactful Hanzo is. You strongly feel that Hanzo is a megaton-impact character and teams that would've done poorly in playoffs without him are likely to do much better with him in. I feel the opposite. I saw nothing today that suggested Hanzo would've changed the results of tonight's game. Boston and London got outplayed, sometimes when not even playing against a Hanzo. Because of that, I also feel like that this Hanzo in stage 4 would not have made enough impact to really affect the current standings.