He issued a response.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/neil-degrasse-tyson/on-being-accused/10156870826326613/
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[Patheos (blog)]: Two More Women Accuse Neil deGrasse Tyson of Sexual Misconduct
- Thread starter Tracygill
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I have been wary of him every since I read this reddit post:
"We were a small college club with around 10 members and on a whim one of our members emailed tyson's agent to see if we could book him. We found out it would cost 40k (it raised to 50k in December of that year where I think it still might be) for his speaking fee plus expenses to have him come to our college for 1 day where he'd host a small lecture, a press meeting, dinner with up to 6 people, and the main lecture and a book signing time permitting. We decided to go for it, and spent a year where our club exclusively worked on bringing him in.
When he arrived, myself and others introduced ourselves and our fields of study. He went after first of us in humanities or soft sciences pretty much relentlessly from the get go. We're all used to the philosophy major working at McDonald's joke, but he wasn't trying to be funny, and spent the ride from the airport making repeated comments about the uselessness of our majors. Additionally he spent about 5 minutes trying to show that logic was stupid but he was citing logical rules and Occam's razor.
The small lecture was him bragging about how famous he was, and how easy it is to pull yourself out of poverty or etc. The dinner was for leaders of other clubs so helped us raise money. He took the piss out of how one student held her fork, and was impossibly smug when giving advice to physics students.
The main event was a terribly boring lecture consisting of fart jokes and fan service; teasing the upcoming TV series he was in and not much else. He spent a quarter of the time reading Sagan's blue dot, which is nice but shouldn't have cost us because it wasn't his material.
He left at about 2am, and we were all exhausted because we had spent the day busy setting up and tearing down. The whole affair cost nearly 85k. The additional money being for locations, personnel, air fare, Tyson's hotel, catering, etc.
We all decided he was an asshole."
Thanks to Svadhyaya for digging up the link:
Yeah...do you still think he isn't capable of sexually assaulting women after watching this?
"We were a small college club with around 10 members and on a whim one of our members emailed tyson's agent to see if we could book him. We found out it would cost 40k (it raised to 50k in December of that year where I think it still might be) for his speaking fee plus expenses to have him come to our college for 1 day where he'd host a small lecture, a press meeting, dinner with up to 6 people, and the main lecture and a book signing time permitting. We decided to go for it, and spent a year where our club exclusively worked on bringing him in.
When he arrived, myself and others introduced ourselves and our fields of study. He went after first of us in humanities or soft sciences pretty much relentlessly from the get go. We're all used to the philosophy major working at McDonald's joke, but he wasn't trying to be funny, and spent the ride from the airport making repeated comments about the uselessness of our majors. Additionally he spent about 5 minutes trying to show that logic was stupid but he was citing logical rules and Occam's razor.
The small lecture was him bragging about how famous he was, and how easy it is to pull yourself out of poverty or etc. The dinner was for leaders of other clubs so helped us raise money. He took the piss out of how one student held her fork, and was impossibly smug when giving advice to physics students.
The main event was a terribly boring lecture consisting of fart jokes and fan service; teasing the upcoming TV series he was in and not much else. He spent a quarter of the time reading Sagan's blue dot, which is nice but shouldn't have cost us because it wasn't his material.
He left at about 2am, and we were all exhausted because we had spent the day busy setting up and tearing down. The whole affair cost nearly 85k. The additional money being for locations, personnel, air fare, Tyson's hotel, catering, etc.
We all decided he was an asshole."
Thanks to Svadhyaya for digging up the link:
Yeah...do you still think he isn't capable of sexually assaulting women after watching this?
This is what bummed me the fuck out. But it is what it is. There are other black men doing science. (Also a lot of black women as well.) We just don't hear from them as much. I wish we did.
Over half. Take out the religious folks and you still have the idiots who think their opinions supersede studies and research.
Damn. I thought he was a good person. That reddit post if true makes these allegations more plausible for me. :(
Is it possible that he is autistic or has asperger's or is on the spectrum? Obviously doesn't excuse his behavior if true. I'm just trying to get a read on his personality. I heard Bill Nye is the same way unfortunately.
Is it possible that he is autistic or has asperger's or is on the spectrum? Obviously doesn't excuse his behavior if true. I'm just trying to get a read on his personality. I heard Bill Nye is the same way unfortunately.
At least he says openly investigate the claims, he is not denying them and gave his side of the story, which is very reasonable.
We don't know the full story and may never, but that silly comment of potentially wanting more than a hug was pretty creepy. The rest seems pretty tame, but it's from his side.
I'll hold judgement until an investigation is completed.
It's a far better response than those who have been accused of similar misconduct, I'll give him that. Glad he welcomes the investigation.
To follow up on Sanstesy's post, as an interesting coincidence, it may be worth mentioning that Cristiano Ronaldo came up in that very same reddit thread [Have you ever met a celebrity who turned out to be a total douche?] which Svadhyaya, Painguy, and Gozu have cited, in relation to NDT. Direct link here.
For the threads here in ResetEra about the Ronaldo case: Gaming Section thread, EtcetEra Section thread.
I feel that it's very 'he said she said', and he knows that. So he's safe in saying to investigate because in the end, it'll come down to the words of two people?
It's a shame to hear this come out about NDT, but if he's a scumbag, then that's that.
Uh...nah. Lance ruined people's lives over this because of his stupid ego. He didn't want to give up his jerseys and the fame he got from it. The cancer org has gotten on just fine without him.
I really don't like how he opened this up and sure enough the first comment is about how things are a "manhunt" which then divulged into "hurting the real victims of sexual assault"
I remember the time my school got a famous non-NDT astro-person to speak at our colloquim, and he spent the entire reception dinner consstantly flirting with our one female grad student right in front of her boyfriend. Turns at that the guy's first wife and his second (current) wife were both grad students much younger than him, that me met through flouting his celebrity through work events.
This type of creepiness is entirely too common, and NDT and this guy are neither for the first nor the last.
I'll wait and see what they dig up from the investigation.
He for sure wanted to and tried to sleep with his assistant though. That much is clear. He never mentioned that he took his shirt off and put romantic music on like she did but they both brought up the creepy "(if I hug you) I'll want more".
He's intelligent and I hope he didn't actually harm anyone because I really enjoy his talks.
He for sure wanted to and tried to sleep with his assistant though. That much is clear. He never mentioned that he took his shirt off and put romantic music on like she did but they both brought up the creepy "(if I hug you) I'll want more".
He's intelligent and I hope he didn't actually harm anyone because I really enjoy his talks.
You bumped this three days after the last post to quote me from almost a week ago just to say, "Ok."
What a strange post.