Expected, but welcomed.
We need off these shitty CPUs both consoles are running.
Expected, but welcomed.
Does it really matter how the BC is handled? The expectation has always been the BC on older ps generations will be done through an emulator.Be realistic... BC will be with PS4 only.
If the rest happened will be through emulators.
Sure, but the reality is they would lose a decent amount of sales from having no PS4 back-compat, yet lose hardly any sales by omitting PS1/2/3 back-compat.All I care about it backwards compatability. PS4 is a given, but I want to see how far back it goes. I want full PS1, 2, 3 and 4 compatability.
can you even begin to imagine what ND can pull with this kind of power?
The cherry on top would be PS1, PS2, and PS3 backward compatibility. plz Sony ;)
Jaguar on consoles is 8C/8T, and i assume the jump is around 6x in CPU power
You're saying that as if emulators are bad.Be realistic... BC will be with PS4 only.
If the rest happened will be through emulators.
Yeah, I wasn't aware the Ryzen Mobile 3000 series is just a Zen+ refresh, as modiz kindly pointed out. I can certainly see the final base clock speed of a Zen 2-based mobile APU landing somewhere between 2.5GHz and 3GHz.
Its a 1 billion times jump
they'd s u c c each other
So it'll be equivalent to a Ryzen 7 3700X? If so, that's quite the jump in performance.
I don't see it being $550 unless trump does or did something goofy
Don't count out the (stupidly unnecessary) push for 8k.With this... yep, one version of PS5 for the entire generation is pretty well given now ( of course slim version mid gen but no pro ).
sony surprised everyone/loads by announcing 8gb GDDR5 for the ps4 too.Yeah, I remember reading that Microsoft originally wanted 256mb in the 360, but Epic convinced them to double it.
To push back against that:After reading GIbiz's latest article it's Yamcha's lifeless body lying in a crater.
R7 based.Amazing news! So will this be based on a R7 style chip, maybe?
They don't make an 8 core R3 or 5 chip right?
My Ryzen 7 3700X is ready for next-gen!I think this kind of dictates that Xbox do likewise, and PC owners will probably need 16-thread (or core) CPUs to maintain parity next gen.
No, fps is a design decision. Developers will likely choose to spend those cycles on a more complex world.Hopefully this cpu leap finally allows 60 fps to become the standard, not the exception, on consoles
The consoles are based off the desktop chip this time, as the mobile ryzen 3000 chips are still based off zen+ instead of zen 2.As expected. The big question is clock speed. Current Ryzen Mobile processors have a base clock of 2.3GHz, but the core configuration maxes out at 4c/8t, so it's very possible the PS5 and Nextbox processors will land closer to 2GHz.
Speaking in terms of 3rd gen Ryzen CPUs with 8 cores, the Ryzen 7 is the closest match (obviously with customizations). Also, isn't it less expensive to buy the parts in bulk?
yep, $499 incoming. there is absolutely no way it will be sold cheaper, because even at $499, they will take a loss.
PS: I am fine with that BTW
can you even begin to imagine what ND can pull with this kind of power?
Cool, thanks. Next gen should finally offer up decent crowds and AI.Jaguar on consoles is 8C/8T, and i assume the jump is around 6x in CPU power
Yep, and just because the CPU could handle 60fps, doesn't mean the GPU can with whatever graphics they're going to be pushing next gen.No, fps is a design decision. Developers will likely choose to spend those cycles on a more complex world.
Well it's cheaper in bulk right, also I may be talking out of my ass but I feel like I saw rumors of Sony getting an amazing deal for AMD cpus
I actually helped my little brother with his Mini-ITX build with a Ryzen 7 3700X & a Radeon 5700XT not too long ago.
CPU upgrade and SSD were the leaps consoles needed
Wonder what they will sell this for...
it will, but I think they will eat the loss, PS3 launch was disastrous because of mainly pricing.
But how will they handle Vita games that use the front touch screen?, and the rear touch pad is a whole other story.PSP and Vita backwards compatibility as well.
(If we're asking for cherries, we may as well ask for all the cherries, regardless of how unlikely it might seem that we get them.)