I think so too, especially when I saw this message go without much discussion and focus placed more on the developers in relation to publishers.
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Poll: Come on in and vote. Show how you really feel about the THQ-Nordic AMA@8chan fiasco
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I think so too, especially when I saw this message go without much discussion and focus placed more on the developers in relation to publishers.
8chan literally is a safe haven for nazis and pedos... that's not an exaggeration.
Another case of people thinking THQN had no idea what 8chan is all about, despite all evidence to the contrary, plus believing that an actual crime must have occurred in order to claim a breach of ethics and morality has taken place.
I think every moron involved in that shitshow should be canned for failing so spectacularly at their job and that people should not allow them to be able to sweep this under the rug, ever. Having said that, if THQ ever puts out a game I'm interested in I might buy it down the line used or at a deep discount, simple as that. Though looking at their catalogue I think that's something I won't even need to worry about for the foreseeable future anyway.
i can't fill you up any more as you're already full of bullshit
They didn't have to do something illegal to do something thats still fucking awful
But sure, we'll chalk that up as being "personally offended". FOH
I didn't vote cause I didn't like either choices.
I think what they did is a poor judgement. But certainly not something irredeemable. So I'm not gonna say I'll never buy their game.
With that said, I barely buy their games to begins with. First THQ Nordic as a company simply gobbled up old IPs and rerelease them in new console. They haven't developed anything in house that catches my attention. Until then I probably won't buy their games.
So indirectly I'm already boycotting them but not for the same reason as some of you guys.
I think what they did is a poor judgement. But certainly not something irredeemable. So I'm not gonna say I'll never buy their game.
With that said, I barely buy their games to begins with. First THQ Nordic as a company simply gobbled up old IPs and rerelease them in new console. They haven't developed anything in house that catches my attention. Until then I probably won't buy their games.
So indirectly I'm already boycotting them but not for the same reason as some of you guys.
I think having these vote threads are a bad idea. They just show how little actual impact there for stuff like that. Just like in the Atlus voting thread, in the it just causes more friction in the community here, and turning people on each other over moral policing, rather than showing that the community is united on showing a publisher something is not okay. Because the reality is that there isn't any unity, and companies will continue to get away with whatever as long as they make games people want to buy. Exposing that further with actual statistics will just make people who feel strongly about this more upset and demoralized.
Im sorry this ever happened to you and I think you're brave to post your story up here.
This is the exact reason why I don't treat this stuff like a game or a joke. Or shrug it off as a big nothing. The type of shit those people post on that site have real world ramifications. When people are posting White Supremacy bullshit, its people like me who are the targets and on the receiving end of that shit. I don't tolerate it.
A lot of posters have no problem admitting how morally bankrupt they are here, and thats just frankly sad.
But its definitely not surprising. Not at all. Essentially expected now.
But how would AB not be involved as well? The parent company should have the power to come in and sweep house for the PR people that decided to do this sort of thing. That's also an issue I have trouble reconciling because there is also an argument to be made that the blame goes all the way up the chain of command.
I think it's an entirely valid point. Indie games live and die off of even minor calculations, where small waves can mean the difference between financial stability and having to shut down. I can understand if people choose to boycott games directly published or developed by THQ Nordic because that's the sort of thing that hits them directly. I'm just thinking how far down the chain I'm comfortable with still supporting developers, knowing that some amount of money will go to THQ Nordic.
I think it would be different if the owner of THQ nordic or even the three who made the AMA would be child abusers. I don't know everything about 8chan, i didn't even know it existed before that shit, but i read on one of the topics on Resetera about the incident that even on 8chan real childporn isn't tolerated, "only" that hentai shit (which is bad enough). 3 people made an AMA on a shithole site, i don't think thats enough to say Kingdom Hearts 3 buyers (for example) in europe don't care about childporn victims if they knew about that AMA.
If the grievance here is that every poll should come with a "I don't know" option, I find it surprising that this is not criticised in every other poll in the site that doesn't include it.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-platform-are-you-getting-devil-may-cry-5-for.102990/ -> No "I don't know" option.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ai...for-older-games-you-can-do-it-yourself.88272/
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-capcom-the-best-comeback-story-in-the-last-decade.102856/
The only poll in the two first pages that has an "I don't know" option is the Pokemon Sword/Shield one, yet I don't see people dogpiling on the OPs over it. Color me slightly suspicious that this only becomes an issue in the poll where that very option would be the highly convenient "I don't want to look bad but I also don't like to not be able to buy games" one.
Your hypothetical response to a hypothetical situation where the system failed to prevent literal Nazis from making money off of people is to help them in making money, instead of taking matters into your hand and not giving your money to them?
Child porn is illegal. Many people in this thread have straight up said that THQ not only linked to, but support child porn. If that were the actual case they committed a crime. Of course, we all know that's not the actual case.
They fucked up, royally, but it's still not to the extent that some people in this thread are making it out to be. And it's even more ridiculous that people who will would still buy a THQ game are being painted as pro-child porn. If you don't instantly condemn the entire company to hell you're a pedophile, it's laughable.
yeah it's funny. gamergaters will tell you this is an SJW hot zone but that's pretty far from the truth.
I knew of 4chan, literally never went there before, but I didn't even know of 8chan.
I'll still buy their titles. I think BioMutant looks awesome, and I'm not in the business of punishing developers for shit a publisher does. And if the developers found someone else to publish their titles I'd absolutely stop buying THQNordic stuff.
They linked to a site that hosts CP.......
The site isn't searchable.... you have to actively know about it......
If you don't think that's an issue enough to still support them with your $$$ then fine.... but don't fucking act like you aren't complicit in being a passive enabler in rewarding a company who did something rather deplorable.
8chan are the people who got kicked off of 4chan for being too disgusting. For 4chan.
Honestly this thread/poll should be closed by mods because this isn't even a discussion/breakdown so much as it as some members condemning other members and launching hyperbolic charges about them and their moral/ethical fulcrums. I mean...
THQ Nordic AB > Koch Media > Deep Silver > Shenmue 3.
Should clarfiy that Deep Silver doesn't own Shenmue 3, they're publishing it.
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Images of child abuse may not be hosted on the site but a safe haven for even discussing pedophilia in a positive light will be a center of trading.
Also it's a shithole of gamergators which is by far the worst group of gamers you can directly engage with if you care one bit about anyone in gaming that doesn't love to send rape threats to women.
People should be asking developers why they want to partner with THQN after this incident. Even just saying they won't buy any game under THQN is going to a light a fire under people's asses to change things at THQN. This poll is probably giving good evidence that THQN can commit shit like this and be fine if Era's more liberal base is fine with them
Fire the guy sure, but the company as a whole had nothing to do with it so that seems childish and just plain fucking insane to stop buying their games over one employees mistake. It sort of shows out of touch with reality some people on this forum are with the real world but gladly "yes" is winning so it seems like the majority agrees. THQ Nordic is still going's to be a gaming giant.
I think the poll would have been better had it asked "will the 8chan fiasco affect your purchase decisions in regards to THQ Nordic?".
Gaming side has a pretty normal distribution of people.
I personally have THQ on their last chance.
There is a big difference between 'Yes, I will buy their games no matter what' and 'Yes, I will buy but only if they do better in the future'. To conflate these two together into one lack nuance and unfair.
I mean, as a poster whose name derived from a major game by a developer many people think as a homophobic and transphobic company, surely you understand that, yea?
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So people can't take action on one thing unless they take action on everything? Because that's what I'm getting from what you're saying, and if that's what helps you to justify your purchases then that's all you.
Ok, then don't go there. You act as if they're everywhere in the news now (if they are, then i strongly recommend you get better sources or a better aggregate for your news).
It's tough. I loved Shadow Tactics and really want to support Mimimi, Desperados 3 was easily one of my most anticipated games. But THQ Nordic owns the license and is publishing, and I don't really want to support them.
I posted my story because I need people to know something. There are victims of child abuse that are here who maybe are uncomfortable to speak, some who are likely aware that their nightmare was recorded and swimming around the web. People like me are already living with the reality that we were raped, that we were filmed, and that those images and videos are likely around the deepest pits of the internet. Now some of us have to live with the reality that a video game publisher likely increased the amount of people getting their hands on these recorded nightmares by advertising and putting a link to a site known for linking child porn. I need people to consider that when they're writing on this thread and voting on the poll, and think carefully what message they are sending to victims like me.
If hosting an AMA on a site that literally hosts discussions on sexually abusing children isn't enough to push it over the edge for you then what is?
I understand the support artists feeling, I really do, I do feel bad for the devs (not Warhorse tho), they have been put in an unenviable position by their publisher.
But life is unfair, sometimes you are between a rock and a hard place and you have choices to make where even the correct choice is shitty and results in someone getting hurt or negatively affected. It sucks.
More than one person, including a board member, and happily co-mingling with low life with responses like these
This was no mistake
That is a ridiculous statement. "Dont do reviews, what if they patch something, it could be better in the future". We arent talking about the future, we are talking about right now and if they do something in the future, we can reassess that when it happens. I dont get this pussyfooting around by some people, you have the information now, based on that information, what do you pick. If them actively promoting a site as vile as this doesnt bother you just come out and say it instead of pretending to not make a decision until the inevitable change comes. Its simple, "No I will not support them as of now", when the apology happens then you can change you mind, you arent locked in.
and liking a game with problematic content for a small handful of scenes isnt the same as promoting a site with child porn and neo-nazis, nice false equivalency though
THQ is a publisher that represents developers. I feel weird boycotting a publisher since that harms people who are just trying to create cool things. When it comes to boycotting a dev for shitty practices, that's much simpler.
Also I wish there was a "no vote, view results" option, because it isn't as black and white as the question poses, and I don't want to weigh in just to see the results, as that would skew it.
Also I wish there was a "no vote, view results" option, because it isn't as black and white as the question poses, and I don't want to weigh in just to see the results, as that would skew it.
I'm sorry, I too had no idea what 8chan was about, specifically, until hundreds of people equipped themselves with elevated equines and let loose excretory precipitation on my surroundings.
To me, from my ground level, unhoisted upon a handy giraffe/unicorn crossbreed, it is entirely believable that something so stupid as an 8chan AMA could have been cleared by a CEO not performing due research into the matter. Because, in his position, I can see myself doing the same damn thing. Including the confused silence afterwards, because I'd have no f-ing clue what to say or do, and I'd prohibit any and all unauthorized communication until whatever looks like the right time to peek out of the bunker, hopefully with a clearer understanding of the magnitude of what the hell happened.
(granted, I'm not following this matter with any degree of diligence either, so they may well have said something officially and dug themselves deeper and I wouldn't know about it; in case that happened, my interpretation only partially applies)
First off, you do realize that the OP itself contains a summary which starts off with an explanation of what 8chan is, right? Did you not read the first post in this thread before you started coming up with a million different ways to say the phrase "high horse"?
Second, you do also realize, as also stated in the first post in this thread, that you literally cannot find 8chan in google, and instead searching immediately links you to websites that describe the site's connection with child pornography? Or that they had specifically talked to the owner of the board they posted on about getting rid of the "nasty stuff"? Or that in order to post the thread, they had to scroll past a link for the /trapshota/ subforum? Or that the first reply on their AMA, which they would have to scroll past in order to see any of the other posts they replied to, was "heil hitler"?
Do you not think it stretches belief that they managed to get that far - and in fact, even reply to a number of these posts - without learning what the site is?
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