Yeah Sony is treating PS4 remasters/remakes of PS2/3 titles as "Classics" as far as the offerings/tiers go.
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PS Blog: Your guide to the all-new PlayStation Plus
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Yeah Sony is treating PS4 remasters/remakes of PS2/3 titles as "Classics" as far as the offerings/tiers go.
There is a post on the subreddit showing the upgrade prices. They are basically charging you the difference in the annual rate converted to the length of your remaining subscription. That seems the most fair way to do it.
Prices for all 3 tiers are actually better then the US exchange rate.
$60, $100, $120us converts to $75, $130, $155 CAD approx
Why would it. The sign in to PSN once a week is just to "prove you still have an active Plus sub". Proving you have an active plus sub is unnecessary for games you purchased individually.
Yeah, I'm starting to think the PS2 games are just the games from the "PS2 on PS4' program. I would love to be proven wrong, though.
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I don't necessarily mind if it is, as long as they actually pick the program back up again. And considering PS1/PSP games don't require trophies anymore, publishers may renew interest.
No, because your entitlement would come from the purchase, not from the service.
Was hoping it was something new, lol.
I have some PSN games that's stuck on PS3, that never made it to PSNow, AFAIK.
Oh well.
Those are yours, you don't even need an Plus subscription to redeem.
They doubled down on the 700 games, so I guess they'll truly add like 600 by next month.
Well, I'm in anyway.
Well, I'm in anyway.
Same here! I got em both before my family went on vacation one year and whenever I wasn't outside, I was glued to those games. Good times 😎
It's lame. Hopefully will get better but it's a sad start.
Yeah, found it:
"The actual number is that you have to pay original price to upgrade.
For example, If you purchased 1 year plus for 25%off, which is $45.
To update to extra plan, you need to pay 100 - 45 = 55$, not 100-60=40$
A real example explained by the one who mentioned this:
1070 days left, 3593 NT$ needed to upgrade to extra plan.
He explained that he always purchase annually subscription for 761 NT$ (1188$ originally)
So that his 1070 days worth 1070/365days*761=2230NT$
An extra plan annually cost 1988 NT$.
1070 days for extra plan need 1070/365*1988=5827 NT$
5827(total price)-2230(he already paid)=3597NT$
Which is pretty close to the system tell (3593$）"
Didn't expect for them to ask the difference for a discount you had take advantage of when bought the Plus, that's freaking mental... it totally disrupt the concept of discount.
People bought the Plus since it was discounted but now they have to pay the difference for a past discount to make an upgrade?
JFC if Sony if going all in this gen...
The fact that this is launching without a single emulated PS2 game is kind of unfathomable to me.
That part confuses me. If you bought a card or a code from a third party, how would PlayStation even know how much you paid? Even if you bought years of plus to stack when it was on sale on PSN, the extra work necessary to track that and include it in the conversion formula seems like it would be not worth it for the tiny amount of people it would catch.
Yeah that's why I bought 4 years of PS Now to convert to Premium when it was available, what a steal.
Of course they won't know, we are talking about the discount made by Sony on the PlayStation Store, asking back the money of the discount is pathetic.
We will need to see more examples indifferent regions before coming to a conclusion. I feel like there are other possibilities(like the users doing their math wrong, PlayStation doing it's math wrong, incorrect prices in specific instances eg lots of stacked time etc) that would be more likely to me then the explanation that makes PlayStation look the most evil and greedy.
Not sure I'm ready to jump on the premium plan just yet but $100 a year for the Extra plan isn't too bad.
This doesn't make any sense to me. The discount will not be retroactively charged for. We need more examples. The one I saw didn't mention the price the user bought his subscription for.
It really reflects the type of effort they're putting in to this.
I'm reading people talk about the catalogue when this new article mentioned, again, that the service is launching with 700 games. The list we know so far doesn't even reach 100 games I believe so, there's no point in speculating if it's worth it or not, we simply can't know right now, unless they're lying.
Have they told in asian markets they'd get way fewer games? I think I'm missing information here.
Have they told in asian markets they'd get way fewer games? I think I'm missing information here.
Yeah, considering the tentative list and the launch line up in the asian regions, they need to add a lot more games before launch.
We still don't have a complete list of games, do we?
Sony knows console warriors will defend them online, regardless of the effort spent.
"Sign up for $119.99!"
- "Okay, what games do I get for that?"
"Yes. You will get games."
- "But what games?"
"..."
The Asian list is at around 300 or so, a bit more if you count separate PS4 and PS5 versions as two games. But the Asian lists lacks the PS3 streamed stuff which bumps the number a fair amount.
Like... I dunno, not a single PS2 launch game? SSX? Fantavision? The Bouncer? Something?
How about the Ape Escape 3 HD remaster, which was rated years ago for PS4 and never came out?
Honestly, I'll wait it out but feels like if I can just buy PS1 and PSP games without needing premium, I might just upgrade to Extra down the line.
Some nice details and after getting 1 year for 60€ (Premium) I look forward to the service.
Me too.
Good point but I don't think half the service will be PS3 games, in fact wasn't supposed to be 450 PS4/5 games? I believe even taking PS3 out of the map, we still have a lot to know about the catalogue.
Nate had indicated they were going to focus on the PS1 portion of the legacy library at first and then PS2 later, so that may still be the plan. Launch the service with whatever PS2 content was already there and then expand it over time.
Anyways, it's day 1 of the first region of this new service. It's very much being built on the back of what came before and will grow and evolve from this starting point. Now we wait and see :)
We'll have the new PS+ Essential June games list next week and the Extra/Premium tiers will get their first game additions at the middle of the month, around the time the service launches in NA.
For what it's worth I believe their language has always been "up to x number of games". See "up to 400 PS4 and PS5 games" in this blog post; https://blog.playstation.com/2022/0...june-with-700-games-and-more-value-than-ever/
This is such a messy release. It's all over the shop. I hope the PS4 and PS5 versions of the same game don't count as two!
The more I read these lists and explanations, the more confused I get lol. I guess extra works, sort of like gamepass in a way
Jeez — I shouldn't pretend I'm surprised. I think my take is kinda more negative as I'm in a "Deluxe" region. It just feels overly fragmented between regions, plans, games, etc.
The good thing about both service merging into one is we will no longer have PS Plus games overlap with PS Now games, which means more games for Premium subscribers, yey!
I'm kind of surprised that the Game Pass twitter hasn't taken any shots at the launch of this. I guess you don't need to punch down, but I would've thought they'd do a "You can stack up to 3 years anytime you'd like with Game Pass. We promise we won't say your cards are invalid" jab or the like.
At some point, they are very much going to get rid of that loophole.
Seems unlikely given that the "loophole" has been open since 2019
You think they care about losing that cash when they just locked someone in to their ecosystem for 3 years?
Not only will they count as two, but so will any situations where a ps3 version is available on streaming while a ps4 remaster is also available.
I have PS plus until the end of 2024. Has it been confirmed that you cannot upgrade unless you pay for the difference for the full remaining period? I.e. can I upgrade for only 3 months instead of pay for 2 years worth?