It's a good excuse for wholesale extermination.I'm beginning to think Israel WANT the Palestinians in open revolt.
It's a good excuse for wholesale extermination.I'm beginning to think Israel WANT the Palestinians in open revolt.
I'm sorry, I'm extremely out-of-the-loop on this entire situation and the history leading to this. Is there trustworthy a guide or summary anyone can link to that explains all of this and why?
A very significant point in the current escalation that seemed to have been left out
This is somehow better than just about anybody expected given "Palestine" isn't used immediately before or after "terrorist" or "missile".
That Twitter action makes the whole thing look sponsored by some crime syndicate that will silence anyone speaking up against it.
Israeli lawmaker Bezalel Smotrich: "There is no alternative to smashing Hamas. Flatten the strip." This is incitement to genocide. Twitter is ignoring its own rules to support Israel's massacres in Gaza.
"Self defense" (volume warning)
Must be nice having a sophisticated air defense system or fancy bunkers where you can hide. The people in Gaza don't have that luxury. This is their life. Fuck the people who are doing this.
What's happening now is genocide there are no other ways to interpret it.
"Self defense" (volume warning)
Must be nice having a sophisticated air defense system or fancy bunkers where you can hide. The people in Gaza don't have that luxury. This is their life. Fuck the people who are doing this.
This is a really horrible take one can only hold if they only thing they know about the conflict comes from Twitter, like hoping for a ground war here will improve the situation for Palestinians in any way (it'll make it worse.)Heartless monsters I hope someone declares war on the Israeli regime for this.
It doesn't have to be a ground war. But the regime has to know they can't get away with genocide in front of our eyes, in 4K. Even some small show of force to make it divert its attention is needed.This is a really horrible take one can only hold if they only thing they know about the conflict comes from Twitter, like hoping for a ground war here will improve the situation for Palestinians in any way (it'll make it worse.)
Guess it's time to ignore the thread and get back to protesting the war on the actual streets with my Palestinian neighbours and get beat up by the police.
I would suggest Mod update the thread title with new developments. If the WP report is true than...yeah.
My guy, your heart is in the right place I hope - but this is 100% clueless. There's no "small" show of force (did you see how fast this thing escalate?) If you haven't lived through a war, probably don't talk about it so carelessly.It doesn't have to be a ground war. But the regime has to know they can't get away with genocide in front of our eyes, in 4K. Even some small show of force to make it divert its attention is needed.
Thank you for your level headedness. Emotions are high. I understand what you're saying being in the midst of that situation, and your points are valid. Please stay safe and don't let this monstrous regime hurt you or your friends.My guy, your heart is in the right place I hope - but this is 100% clueless. There's no "small" show of force (did you see how fast this thing escalate?) If you haven't lived through a war, probably don't talk about it so carelessly.
But I get the need for people here to say shocking because of the frustration and inhumanity of this thing while also being far away from it. It's free and you can show your support for the Palestinian cause, which is good overall.
I'll just ignore the thread. Have a good one.
"Self defense" (volume warning)
Must be nice having a sophisticated air defense system or fancy bunkers where you can hide. The people in Gaza don't have that luxury. This is their life. Fuck the people who are doing this.
German twitter is trash and this country is mostly racist especially towards black people and everyone remotely looking like a middle easterner.Reading German Twitter makes me wish some people over here would get bombed. The chancellor candidate of the green party tweeted, she strongly criticises Hamazes rocket attacks and both sides have to start peace negotiations again.
No word of the IDF bombings, but apparently this still puts to much blame onto Israel, so now she dragged for that.
Reading German Twitter makes me wish some people over here would get bombed. The chancellor candidate of the green party tweeted, she strongly criticises Hamazes rocket attacks and both sides have to start peace negotiations again.
No word of the IDF bombings, but apparently this still puts to much blame onto Israel, so now she dragged for that.
"Antifa means solidarity with Israel." somebody please throw these people into the sun.
To be fair she had right-wing asshats dogpiling her for replying to Naomi Klein's tweet with #SaveSheikhJarrah earlier, screaming why she didn't mention Hamas rockets
This tweet is a reaction to that. She's a teen, cut her some slack
Germany is never going to honestly confront the nature of the Israel/Palestine conflict as long as they see supporting Israel as a way to make up for the Holocaust.
Agreed. But there is an anti-apartheid side to Biden which he was vociferous about. Maybe whoever has his ear can tap into that.
Your post isn't inappropriate. The regime hurts you in a different way, but it's all oppression altogether. Don't listen to anyone who calls you a murderer. You don't support the regime, and you're doing everything in your power to fight it.Is it going too far to ask for a bit of sympathy for a significant percentage of Israeli citizens who have been trying to replace the current government during four elections held over the past two years?
How about the many thousands of people protesting in the streets and in front of the PM's house week after week? And the people getting beat up by police during these and other protests?
The current administration does not, in fact, represent a clear majority any more than the Trump government represented one in the U.S.
People in Israel currently being killed, injured or having their houses destroyed in the middle of the night are not the same entity as the IDF and the government.
Based on many of the neighborhoods being targeted or hit a lot of them are strongly left-leaning, to the point where the Israeli right considers them "filthy traitors".
It's pretty awful not only to be called a traitor from within your country for holding peace protests, but simultaneously being called a murderer from outside of it, all the while having your windows smashed at 3 in the morning from impact shock waves, and I'm willing to wager that most people commenting in this thread have not lived through similar circumstances.
If this post is inappropriate, please ban me from this forum.
I don't think there's anything inappropriate in what you wrote at all.Is it going too far to ask for a bit of sympathy for a significant percentage of Israeli citizens who have been trying to replace the current government during four elections held over the past two years?
How about the many thousands of people protesting in the streets and in front of the PM's house week after week? And the people getting beat up by police during these and other protests?
The current administration does not, in fact, represent a clear majority any more than the Trump government represented one in the U.S.
People in Israel currently being killed, injured or having their houses destroyed in the middle of the night are not the same entity as the IDF and the government.
Based on many of the neighborhoods being targeted or hit a lot of them are strongly left-leaning, to the point where the Israeli right considers them "filthy traitors".
It's pretty awful not only to be called a traitor from within your country for holding peace protests, but simultaneously being called a murderer from outside of it, all the while having your windows smashed at 3 in the morning from impact shock waves, and I'm willing to wager that most people commenting in this thread have not lived through similar circumstances.
If this post is inappropriate, please ban me from this forum.
This will read like some "both sides" Galaxy brain bullshit on my part, but I do think that for political reasons they have a mutual interest in having a field where they're both the only adversary, so they keep legitimizing each other.
Police last night was super brutal on all anti-war protestors :( My friends in Haifa told me police were just going ham on everyone.Is it going too far to ask for a bit of sympathy for a significant percentage of Israeli citizens who have been trying to replace the current government during four elections held over the past two years?
How about the many thousands of people protesting in the streets and in front of the PM's house week after week? And the people getting beat up by police during these and other protests?
The current administration does not, in fact, represent a clear majority any more than the Trump government represented one in the U.S.
People in Israel currently being killed, injured or having their houses destroyed in the middle of the night are not the same entity as the IDF and the government.
Based on many of the neighborhoods being targeted or hit a lot of them are strongly left-leaning, to the point where the Israeli right considers them "filthy traitors".
It's pretty awful not only to be called a traitor from within your country for holding peace protests, but simultaneously being called a murderer from outside of it, all the while having your windows smashed at 3 in the morning from impact shock waves, and I'm willing to wager that most people commenting in this thread have not lived through similar circumstances.
If this post is inappropriate, please ban me from this forum.
I stayed in bed for the 3AM rockets lolProtip for when ya'll need to go stay in a shelter under bombing: don't sit there drinking with neighbours around midnight because you're gonna regret it when you wake up with a hangover to another siren at 3am.
(and if you think I'm making light of the situation, I feel for the plight of everyone, it's a shitshow)