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Roche (FF7R Chapter 4)
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Roche's personality is great. His intro was ridiculous and I loved his motorcycle acrobatics, and I wish they'd covered his back story a little more.
Some of the characters in this game feel like they're lifted from elsewhere, like Yakuza or DMC or something, which I'm not complaining about but it did come across as a little weird or out of place at first. Shinra Middle Manager is another of them, for example.
Also, Johnny was really irritating initially and grew on me, but I'm still kind of ehhh about him. I just remember him as the guy who spent time with Tifa in the og and never expected to see him in the remake.
Some of the characters in this game feel like they're lifted from elsewhere, like Yakuza or DMC or something, which I'm not complaining about but it did come across as a little weird or out of place at first. Shinra Middle Manager is another of them, for example.
Also, Johnny was really irritating initially and grew on me, but I'm still kind of ehhh about him. I just remember him as the guy who spent time with Tifa in the og and never expected to see him in the remake.
lol these haters, even Roche isn't safe around them haha
For me, I'd love to see more of him, liked his character and his personality reminded me the earlier moments on Crisis Core where people want to be soldier to show off, be cooler and have fun
For me, I'd love to see more of him, liked his character and his personality reminded me the earlier moments on Crisis Core where people want to be soldier to show off, be cooler and have fun
This. It was just awful. The jumping bike, the hair, the dialogue. This is where the game really started to lose me and never got me back.
Roche is like the embodiment of a moment where the rest of Square had to give Nomura a moment or two to unleash himself in order to keep the rest of the game on track.
"This game's characters are too likeable! We need horrible anime bullshit and motorcycle ballet!"
"This game's characters are too likeable! We need horrible anime bullshit and motorcycle ballet!"
If he just didn't kick flip his hog like a damn skate board, that was the bridge too far for me. i could handle the rest.
You don't fight any SOLDIERs in the remake besides Roche, you fight Shinra soldiers.
They're clearly labelled "3-C SOLDIER" though, like the ones found in the undergound car park at Shinra HQ.
He's essentially the personification of this dril tweet.
Personally loved the fight, was kind of disappointed that he didn't show up in the final motorcycle chase.
Personally loved the fight, was kind of disappointed that he didn't show up in the final motorcycle chase.
Literally took the words right outta my mouth! Thanks bro! Totally agreed lol
That was the chapter I knew I was gonna love the game. Having not known anything about FF7 prior it kind of highlighted to me that "Soldier" guys are all weirdos that live for a good fight and have over the top hairdos and what not. Wondering how they are gonna use him in the next games.
You most definitely do fight SOLDIERs.
3-C SOLDIER Operator
Special troopers that have been enhanced with mako energy. SOLDIERs are divided into three classes, based on their capabilities. The 3rd class is the lowest, but even they are vastly more effective than standard troopers.Enemy details The 3-C SOLDIER Operator is an enemy in Final Fantasy VII...
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Lol what the heck I completely forgot about that somehow. That is kind of dumb then lolYou most definitely do fight SOLDIERs.
3-C SOLDIER Operator
Special troopers that have been enhanced with mako energy. SOLDIERs are divided into three classes, based on their capabilities. The 3rd class is the lowest, but even they are vastly more effective than standard troopers.Enemy details The 3-C SOLDIER Operator is an enemy in Final Fantasy VII...
Edit: lol yeah what the above posted. You get what I mean.
Roch would makes more sense if he's a class 2 SOLDIER.
He was surprising to be a new addition that got a spotlight in the trailers but added very little to the story. I didn't really like him. Maybe they'll do something cool with him in Part 2. He felt kind of like he filled the role of the Turks but was way worse.
It's not really that dumb.
As I recall, the SOLDIERs in Third Class were basically mass produced warriors and only a small number of them even made it to Second Class. To go from Second Class to First Class basically never happened and I'm pretty sure the designation was specifically made for Sephiroth, Angeal and Genesis - who were not recruited for the SOLDIER program, but created for it. Zack may very well be the only person to ever get promoted from Second Class to First Class, which is why Reno obviously doesn't believe Cloud in the remake when he says he is one.
I think, after Shinra lost all four of its SOLDIER First Class, they simply stopped making any more SOLDIERs at all. Whether it's because Project S and Project G were shelved since Sephiroth and Genesis both went crazy or because, as Zack proved, even one SOLDIER going rogue practically requires an entire army to deal with, I dunno.
Either way, whatever SOLDIERs were left, they clearly aren't considered much of an elite force any more if they're stuck guarding garages.
He is so awful he loops back around to being great.
At first i was like, who the fuck is this goober?
But he grew on me, healing cloud was such a baller move, by the end i was rooting for him, i hope that cheeseball gets a cameo in the following parts.
At first i was like, who the fuck is this goober?
But he grew on me, healing cloud was such a baller move, by the end i was rooting for him, i hope that cheeseball gets a cameo in the following parts.
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He's got the skills to be higher up but he's such a menace to even friendlies that he stays a 3rd class.
It's not just skills that make you 2nd or 1st Class. You also have to have the right temperament which Roche does not.
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I didn't mind him at all. His boss battle was absolutely a highlight of the game for me cinematically, and probably was a point in the game for me where the battle system really started to click. His battle theme was also one of the best tracks in the game.
Honestly, I was much more put off by the constant Sephiroth encounters and the scene direction with those. It got old well before the end of the game and they kept going with it.
Honestly, I was much more put off by the constant Sephiroth encounters and the scene direction with those. It got old well before the end of the game and they kept going with it.
I get that people didn't like Roche and that's fine, but Heidegger man, Heidegger... What a terrible, terrible villain and water off screen time every fucking time he was on screen. Did you really hate Roche more than Heidegger?
