Oh sure. But if Kavanaugh can't go out in public after this, it's entirely on him and his behavior through this process.
Senate Judiciary Committee hearing - Ford & Kavanaugh testimony - 9/27 at 10am ET
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No attorney worth a damn will tell you his behavior towards sitting US Senators during a Senate hearing was becoming of a judge or any officer of the court.
It was not okay.
Yup.
He's 53 year old man who's about to face the consequences for the first time in his adult life. His life's aspiration, built on a foundation of lies, is crumbling because of own actions and words.
That's the thing about lying liars who lie. They eventually start lying about lies and they don't know truth from fiction. Most people who go through life never find themselves in this situation. Most lying liars who lie usually get their life destroyed long before they are nominated for the Supreme Court.
Brett Kavanaugh's white privilege is what ultimately destroyed him, which is what white men of affluence are freaking the fuck out about right now.
White men of affluence is all that's left of the GOP.
He sure as hell won't be coaching any girl's basketball games in the future, that's for damn sure.
Yeah, it seems pretty obvious to me that his whole demeanor was calculated. The way he switched on and off like when answering questions, the frequent breaks so he could get more coaching to tweak it up or down, he was playing for an audience of one, trying to make that guy smile, cackle, grin, and point to him on screen and say to others, "I like this guy, he's entertaining me."
100 fucking %
This guy is straight trash, not even on the basis of Ford's testimony, but on the basis of his bullshit on the Senate committee after she spoke.
Fuck that shit. There's no way in fucking hell anyone can say there isn't a WAY better and appropriate man or woman to sit on the SC.
He tried to rile up the Republican base. In what fucking way is that ANYTHING appropriate to make a mark on the highest court of the richest country. Fucking bullshit.
SO fucked up.
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I'm not even sure I'd go that far. I bet he could if he wanted.
I'm totally the late news here... But Lawrence O'Donnell just said that the FBI investigation could lead to criminal investigation if the agents find he lied to the senate.
I guess i thought the FBI would tell the senate he lied to them and the senate would do fuck all about it because Republicans.
I guess i thought the FBI would tell the senate he lied to them and the senate would do fuck all about it because Republicans.
Probably back then it was all student controlled and then given to a teacher to order the prints with barely a cursory look at it.
Evem kids today manage to slip stuff through.
If I spoke to Kavanaugh the way he spoke to the Senate while making arguments before his court, he'd hold my ass in contempt and be 100% right to do so.
I am genuinely curious to see the reaction on this side of the site, if the FBI after their investigation shows that there is a lack of evidence to corroborate Ford's testimony.
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The people who thought that girls and boys schools should be segregated and that sexual education is bad
A missing element in this whole discussion is the element of how lack of sex education and perpetrating the "my choir boys and girls are so good" lie harms people and creates sexual assault victims.
If it's like most high schools, it's a group of students. Unless you say something really out of place, your quote isn't going to be changed. It's a guarantee that that was a bold faced lie about them changing it.
Why do you even ask this?
No one wants him period. Of course the majority on this site are going to be upset.
So like, can't they just ask Brett who he played Devil's Triangle with and what the rules of the game are, and then cross reference with whoever he names?
That will be one thing, but I will say again his demeanor was not one for the supreme court.
Anyone not seeing that is on to something else.
People here arent going to be happy even if hes shown to be innocent because his previous cases as a judge shows disastrous tendencies. This is the man that refuses to deny that a president can pardon himself, he basically doesnt care if a president starts destroying the checks that allow the US to have a democracy, as brittle as it is. And thats without taking his stance on abortion, unions and other economic issues.
He would be a terrible judge, a partisan angry little man that would be all of those things even if (even if) he"s innocent.
Unless they find something crazy, I'm not sure how that could even happen. The most likely outcome is they hit a dead end like we have where no one remembers or talks about it. Which is a shame because then it's up to who you believe with your eyes and ears and the country will still be torn.
Trump gets to view the FBI report first and can have it classified if he wants, right?
So if there's something REALLY damning in there, it might not be released. Kavanaugh can be asked to withdraw and give a reason like "this is too hard on my family" and Trump buries the document ("I have concerns about what's in there, but he's been through a lot and let's respect his privacy") and gets to dodge some of the PR blowback.
If that happens, I'll bet Avenatti (and possibly normal politicians) makes the report's release a major issue in 2020.
So if there's something REALLY damning in there, it might not be released. Kavanaugh can be asked to withdraw and give a reason like "this is too hard on my family" and Trump buries the document ("I have concerns about what's in there, but he's been through a lot and let's respect his privacy") and gets to dodge some of the PR blowback.
If that happens, I'll bet Avenatti (and possibly normal politicians) makes the report's release a major issue in 2020.
Exactly. Can't ever be overstated. His views and his past actions aren't the only thing we should judge him on. His current behavior is just as, if not more important than anything else.
I dunno what hes getting at either, outside of a drive by provocation
I mean, if they actually find evidence that indicates strongly that Ford's claims are untrue? I will be blown away, personally, because I cannot imagine her having lied after seeing that hearing, but if the evidence speaks for itself then I'll have to accept it.
Just tell us how you really feel. That Ford is lying.
I am just curious on if the FBI investigation ends up in his favor, what the response on that will be. Not the more obvious result that would be that he is confirmed. (Not sure if I was totally clear with my first post. Apologies if I wasn't.)
I am in no way in support of his confirmation regardless of how the investigation turns out, to be crystal clear.
I am in no way in support of his confirmation regardless of how the investigation turns out, to be crystal clear.
You can leave that garbage (putting words into my mouth) at the door. Thank you.
I never expected the FBI investigation to yield much. The delay does however give more chances to strengthen the accusations made by Ramirez and Swetnick who didn't get a chance to be heard yet. And with the rapist in continued media spotlight, it would hopefully tank his approval numbers more and scare the republicans.
Well I'm sure the "liberal tears" would be flowing if that's what you're looking for so stick around, but they won't be mine. Even if he is innocent which, after three accusations I'm sorry but lol ok, but sure, completely innocent, well no, I'm still not happy because he's a shit person with shit views. I've seen this argument in regards to Trump as well. Oh Trump is completely innocent liberals what now? Um, how about the last 2 years of shit he has done?
That said, I already have made my peace with this pick weeks ago.
That said, I already have made my peace with this pick weeks ago.
Yeah random people on the street who are accused of rape handle it better
Both him and Graham were in hysterical acting
This side of the site is quite different from the Gaming side. It was like this back on the old site. Nothing negative implied.
My avatar has no bearing on anything I said. Not sure why there is always someone calling out an avatar, but okay. :)
I believe she is telling the truth. I do, however, want more evidence because what we have right now is extremely very little.
That will never happen because the FBI won't find evidence proving his innocence. At most they won't find anything at all, due to the passage of time.
Yeah, looking back. My wording is off in that post. I have fixed it.
You originally suggested the Kavanaugh could be innocent. What evidence do you think will be presented to suggest or prove that Ford is lying about any particular part of her testimony? And why do you think this evidence will come to light?
I'm way LTTP to this but idc, still going to say it: one of the reasons some people got angry at the way others treated Serena Williams after her meltdown is in clear view here. A man (Kavanaugh) melted down even worse than she did, he was foaming at the mouth, nowhere near the composture a judge should have. Yet people still say that he was acting "normal", that he was "defending himself".
Can't put words in my mouth so it is time to twist the intent of my original post. I am not sure what your issue is, but there was no suggestion being hinted at nor implied.
Completely different situation, sorry just terrible comparison and i'm usually the one making these bad comparisons
You originally suggested that the FBI investigation could show that Kavanaugh is innocent. Which would mean Ford is lying. You cannot argue for one and not the other.
Is there anything Kavanaugh can do to prove his innocence? Or is his fate already decided
It would be kind of weird if they didn't do that, especially with Avenatti being so vocal on Twitter about justice for his client.
No. I didn't at all suggest that the FBI investigation would find him innocent. Showing curiosity on how the reaction would be based on IF the investigation found him innocent (written originally as) is not at all the same as suggesting they will find him innocent.
We're not in the court of law. We're engaging in public opinion. And my opinion is that Ford is telling the truth and Kavanaugh is a privileged, lying scumbag. Look at her testimony. Even fucking Trump was convinced.
Your "what would this board do if he's found innocent" is a suggestion that he could be found innocent, therefore Ford would be lying, otherwise there is literally no point of you publicly describing this train of thought.
Setting aside the sex assault allegations for a moment, his behavior yesterday showed he is unfit to serve on the Supreme Court, and should be removed from his current position. He openly threatened the Democratic Party with retribution from the bench with the whole "what goes around, comes around", and the parroting of trump's bullshit claims that this is all a Democratic smear campaign. He showed that is is incapable of being an impartial judge.
I wonder if Kavanaugh just withdraws at some point this week. I mean he can still pull the family card, it's not too late for that. His current job could be gone but he'll live. Because if he did these things, and I believe he did, at what point is he going to go for self-preservation and stop trusting Trump to protect him?
Back from 1990, there is no way this guy was a saint at that school.
https://theintercept.com/2018/09/28...990-of-sexual-or-violent-behavior-at-parties/
https://theintercept.com/2018/09/28...990-of-sexual-or-violent-behavior-at-parties/
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