Sony's Fortnite crossplay account block is now covered by mainstream press [Sony Responds]
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definitely the worst post I have ever read on ERA that's not about race or gender.
How come Microsoft and Nintendo don't lock down the Fortnite account? Why is it only Sony? Stop with this false comparison.
Lmao at the defense and deflections being made to somehow justify this horrible decision by Sony.
"Is Sony really to blame? Epic deserves the criticism."
"It's a smart business decision so it's understandable"
" if Microsoft or Nintendo were number #1, they would totally be doing the same thing with locking down accounts"
" Microsoft makes you buy a Gold subscription to play this which is just as bad". Nintendo may as well in a few months"
"It kind of sucks, but Sony is brilliant to wait until the PS5 releases to change their policy"
And my favorite recent post. "I'm glad Sony is doing this"
"Is Sony really to blame? Epic deserves the criticism."
"It's a smart business decision so it's understandable"
" if Microsoft or Nintendo were number #1, they would totally be doing the same thing with locking down accounts"
" Microsoft makes you buy a Gold subscription to play this which is just as bad". Nintendo may as well in a few months"
"It kind of sucks, but Sony is brilliant to wait until the PS5 releases to change their policy"
And my favorite recent post. "I'm glad Sony is doing this"
But other players would move to another system but Sony would completely lose here. Let say we agree to disagree. Sony is arrogant but not crazy.
How is it Sony's fault? This looks to be Epics fault. They could add separate progression for each set of consoles, like Rockstar handles progression in GTA V. You can use you same account for both you just can't transfer saves between them. So if Sony is not stopping Rockstar why would they be stopping Epic?
This would be a huge mistake for Epic to do and just as much a negative as this account thing is. So no It's not something Epic should do.
Like I said. It's goes on and off. Only the people on forums got outraged by minecraft, and Rocket league. It barely registered to consumers and died out after a day. This can follow the same path regardless of how much attention it has right now.
Your posts seem to be more concerned with taking jabs here instead of even trying to get this issue solved.
What every other case? THERE ARE NO OTHER CASES. The only other game that would have had this happen is Minecraft, and MS flat out said 'oh you won't let it work right? then we're not releasing it' so it never got to this point. Holy shit. Read the OP like 100 times until you understand the issue if need be, but stop being this ignorant.
Crossplay isn't the issue people.
SONY IS ESSENTIALLY STEALING PEOPLE'S PURCHASES WITH THIS EPIC ACCOUNT LOCK!!!
Epic Accounts created on PC or a console that are NOT a Sony console that has Fortnite purchases associated with the account and the account is linked to PSN, that account then for all intents and purposes is a Sony locked account, it CANNOT be used on XBox/Switch.
SONY IS ESSENTIALLY STEALING PEOPLE'S PURCHASES WITH THIS EPIC ACCOUNT LOCK!!!
Epic Accounts created on PC or a console that are NOT a Sony console that has Fortnite purchases associated with the account and the account is linked to PSN, that account then for all intents and purposes is a Sony locked account, it CANNOT be used on XBox/Switch.
Report what? He is not calling names, being disrespectful, being racist etc. etc. He is giving is opinion, a really slanted fanboyish opinion, but only an opinion. Stupidity is not against the rules, i think.
Because they allow cross play between them? People are saying their complaint is not due to crossplay but if it isn't they shouldn't have a problem with this.
Have games always worked like this: I buy something on PC. Epic asks me to link my account to all kinds of stuff, so I link it to my PS4 cause why not. Later I try to link to Switch. I can't because Sony is stopping me. I've never even played on PS4. I've spent real money on PC, money Sony doesn't let me transfer to Switch. Sony!? What the fuck do they have to do with that? It's absurd.
I can't believe removing the game from the PSN store is an actual solution that's been brought up in this thread. yeah let's screw every PS4 gamer to stick it to Sony.
Thank god the industry doesn't work like some direct to DVD movie
Thank god the industry doesn't work like some direct to DVD movie
Yep, just keep enabling anti-consumerism with fanboy rhetoric like this. Why should Sony give a shit when they can fall back on their zealots.
no, mobile is, and i guess pc after that. i think ps4 is third.
still won't work. voluntary ignorance is way more powerful than the normal kind.
Sadly Epic most likely agreed on this with Sony from the beginning.
Oh dude, you are digging a hole you won't be able to get out of..
Stop now..
It's absolutely amazing how many still don't get this. Thirty pages here, the mainstream articles, Gerstmann describing it in the Phil Spencer interview yesterday. Nearly every source harps on either the cross play or the fact that you can't take your PS4 progression to Xbox and Switch.
We could have another 30 pages and I guarantee there would still be people mentioning that stuff while being completely oblivious about what basically amounts to outright theft by a multi billion dollar company.
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That's how you know many in here don't actually care about gamers, and instead a lot of it just boils down to platform preference warrior nonsense.
Like I said in the other thread, this is a horrible response. Not only does it completely ignore the problem, it's borderline 2009-era Nintendo levels of sales smugness. It's a really terrible look.
I don't think that's what's going to happeno r should have to happen, but right now Sony is screwing people that aren't even their own customers. If Epic just said 'fuck it' and delisted the game that would sure bring an end to this quickly.
I mean, that's already essentially what happened with Minecraft: The playstation versions are stuck in the past because Sony wouldn't play ball in the EXACT same manner that is causing this Fortnite debacle. They never got the current version of the game because of it. Minecraft players on playstation got hosed just the same.
Really? Did you even read the post I replied to? Just gotta rage that hard huh?
I think we're done here.
Sony will, too. When they announce PS5. Cross-Play is gonna be a feature they are going to show. Thunderous applause from the audience. Everything will be forgotten by then. They trade this short-term uproar for a positive "change/we listened to the players" marketing claim.
Just like Apple and the Steam-Link app. There was uproar about that for a week, now everybody forgot about it...
That's because people have the false assumption that everyone cares about this, when in reality only a handful of people truly do. The vocal minority and all that.
The corporate apologist/Sony business decision defense force is bizarre on this issue.
What do you as a gamer have to lose on this besides some idea of complete console dominance you claim wouldn't be lost either way?
I get when Sony says it out of some secret fear but gamers parroting the same must mean they share the same fear for some reason. It's not like this is arguing for an open standard across all platforms and crossbuys across all platforms. Sony has all the games and exclusive coming to their platform and MS still sells consoles despite having few exclusives and the ones they have available on PC as well.
What is Sony so scared of?
What do you as a gamer have to lose on this besides some idea of complete console dominance you claim wouldn't be lost either way?
I get when Sony says it out of some secret fear but gamers parroting the same must mean they share the same fear for some reason. It's not like this is arguing for an open standard across all platforms and crossbuys across all platforms. Sony has all the games and exclusive coming to their platform and MS still sells consoles despite having few exclusives and the ones they have available on PC as well.
What is Sony so scared of?
I don't get it, why want everyone to suffer?.. my daughter and nephew are already back to playing on PS4. They say they can't see everything on the Switch and keep getting killed, lol. Sucks for me they are back on the tv. Dammit!
See... Because Paul is Playstation and Steve is Switch... Get it? ...
Not remove, just pressure to remove. Also everyone has another system to play the game on, everyone has an iphone.. yes I know I know. Just to answer your point. Also Fornite didcated players most likely own more than one system anyway.
They could instead remove cross play from ps4. Sony pulling bullshit, epic should respond in kind. Let Sony have their little bubble ecosystem. Owners of other platforms can enjoy cross play, cross purchase etc. But not Sony.
Sony must be scared of setting a precedent here. If they allow progress to follow you across platforms then I imagine other companies will want to integrate their own account system to accomplish the same. Which would actually kinda suck to then be forced to have an Ubisoft account, ea account, activision account, etc to play online. I think cross platform play would be fine, awesome even, but cross progress opens up some madness.
Naw. That'd just make Epic look bad to the customers that are oblivious to this. And there are a lot of them.
I don't think it's possible for corporate apologism to surprise me anymore. There is literally nothing people won't defend corporations for doing.
I have to say it makes parody so very hard, though. Quintessential example of Poe's law right there.
So Sony is the one handling and managing Epics accounts and not Epic? That's news to me.
Which is why you conveniently didn't quote the part where I said they won't and shouldn't do that. Thanks.
I'm just saying WHY people are suggesting it - it's the biggest way to completely force the issue.
I can't believe there are actually people in here saying they're GLAD Sony did this. Like wtf kind of shill do you have to be to be happy about this shit ?
Your daughter shouldn't get to play it because Sony is arrogant, apparently.
Is what you put in italics actually true? Can you link an Xbox or switch linked epic account to PS4?
I thought this could only occur if your account was only linked to PC or Mobile and then you link to PS4 before linking to Xbox or switch.
And yeah, still lame for people who have spent that money on their account.
How can Sony even be blocking users on the Switch anyway? Wouldn't there need to be a flag of some sort on the Epic account itself in order for the Service to get blocked? Wouldn't that make it Epic's issue instead?
Regardless, this restriction is bullshit and I'm glad it's getting more attention. Hopefully it leads to a more open PSN.
Regardless, this restriction is bullshit and I'm glad it's getting more attention. Hopefully it leads to a more open PSN.
This exact situation has been confirmed here on ERA of Sony locked Epic accounts where purchases will not transfer to XBox/Switch.