It's kind of true though (based on ppl I know who used to work there, and others who still do). Not to say too many do that - employees are often just as much believers as the paying fans.
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Star Citizen has reached over 400,000,000 in crowdfunding.
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I might be confusing things, the below is what I was talking about. Also, I wasn't implying that they weren't going to allow players to get land claims in-game. It's just hard to think the feature would have materialized (at least at the point it was introduced), if it wasn't attached to fundraising.
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When is server meshing actually coming?
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I check out the game every 6 months or so to see whats changed, and to be honest, it's cool. Flying above that new floating city and seeing the volumetric clouds, its pretty insane. I hope server meshing comes at some point soon. I know its easy to say scam but when you play the game as it is now, idk, there's some really cool stuff in there. You can see the massive potential of a game like this. I paid $30 back in 2014 for the full game and nothing more.
It's kinda like GTA. But if you took all the hard talented work that went into making a bustling city and missions, and instead had a less competent team putting man-hours into spreading in thinly across a solar system, resulting in a threadbare vertical slice of sub-par gameplay experiences strung together by a rendering engine.
I think initially it was both (I got in for 20$ during some flash sale), but now I think it's mainly whales.
I'm into flight sims so I have some pretty expensive flight gear, and whenever I look at reviews it's pretty crazy that most often, reviews for the highest end sticks and throttles revolve around Star Citizen. In fact some of the highest end sticks (see VKB Space Combat Grip or Virpil Constellation Alpha) are developed with SC customers in mind even more than Elite Dangerous or flight sim players. It's actually quite crazy that some hardware companies make a good part of their business around a game that doesn't exist.
People who want this game are ready to spend a LOT. At some point you've invested so much mental energy and money into this that you figure you might as well buy another 1000$ ship to help development so you can finally get your dream game.
The Concierge system is everything you need to know to avoid Star Citizen like the plague.
If $1,000 is the buy-in, how high could the top tier possibly be?
And sure, it's not a scam; it's more of a religion at this point
If $1,000 is the buy-in, how high could the top tier possibly be?
Anyone defending this shit is already too bought-in. They're lost souls.
And sure, it's not a scam; it's more of a religion at this point
It's a forum dweller dream game, a game literally made out of those crazy wish lists you see on forums.
I mean, if they have the cash, whats the issue? Whales are in every game
I don't think that you will find many games where developers explicitly build in game rewards exclusively for people who paid more than 25.000$.
This is not because the game FIFA is fun that FUT isn't a scam.
It has to be in some sort of playable state to continue to get money.
Sure, but saying because this system exists is why you should avoid the game "like the plague" is just nonsense
the alpha is in a playable state, even when there are not many gameplay loops fleshed out. And that is why the project has already reached 400 mio in crowdfunding. Last year was the most successful year in the crowdfunding campaign and that is not because it's a scam or "a dream", it's because the people are having fun playing the alpha (even with the bugs).
There are 3,3 million players/accounts already.
And they are using the money to grow:
Star Citizen developer plans 1000-person Manchester mega studio
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Obviously. Even features will goes against each others.
Can print that on a t-shirt 🤣
the alpha is in a playable state, even when there are not many gameplay loops fleshed out. And that is why the project has already reached 400 mio in crowdfunding. Last year was the most successful year in the crowdfunding campaign and that is not because it's a scam or "a dream", it's because the people are having fun playing the alpha (even with the bugs).
There are 3,3 million players/accounts already.
And they are using the money to grow:
Star Citizen developer plans 1000-person Manchester mega studio
Star Citizen and Squadron 42 developer Cloud Imperium Games plans to open a huge new studio in Manchester, making it on…
Elite players are switching too:
Again, the fact people have fun is the first thing in any scam. Or hope.
You have to ask yourself why you are so adamant to defend the game.
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Those are some worrying qualifications for a project that has already missed too many deadlines to count.
I think it's fine to enjoy what is there, but I don't understand why people have faith to invest based on any future promises.
did you even play the game?
Maybe you should watch the video i posted.
And maybe you should ask yourself: why are you not only bashing the game but the people who have fun with it.
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What do you mean? Parts of the game are being redone constantly, which in some way is precisely part of the problem.
From all the talk in the past i thought server meshing was just around the corner. Might not even come in 2022 based on how the development history of this game.
I thought moving goalposts is the thing that CIG knows best :P
Seems like a lot, but games like Fortnite and Apex are making literal billions in micro transactions.
Not even the same genre of game really. I don't think it would attract even similar attention. People are caught up in the fantasy of living in sci-simulation with Star Citizen.
You could probably see similar funding for a Ready Player One style experience with a strong pitch and the right marketing.
Not even the same genre of game really. I don't think it would attract even similar attention. People are caught up in the fantasy of living in sci-simulation with Star Citizen.
You could probably see similar funding for a Ready Player One style experience with a strong pitch and the right marketing.
Sigh - ok.
A few weeks ago - I bought into the game. I had registered an account back when RSI first started, but didn't want to pay money for a concept and told myself I'd wait until something was tangible before pledging.
Some considerable amount of time later; I bought a starter pack at the start of the month and I've invested over $1k into the game this week.
High for a game, but comparable to Wishes over the course of Genshins release and Hearthstone packs/expansions - kinda avg. I'm kinda ashamed in retrospect on Genhin [I clearly cared far too much about getting great damage numbers/characters]. To some - this is reprehensible behaviour - but the level of salt [for the lack of a better word] feels out of proportion.
I get if posters here were backers at the start, sold in on the timeframe/single player experience that still hasn't materialised and feel like the game's direction from scripted to sandbox is unjustified - I'd be salty too if I bought into the hype that early and that seriously. Or those that paid money to a game [that while clearly states its in Alpha, markets itself as if it was a live-service game like Destiny] and they don't want to spend any time fighting through a slew of game breaking bugs and half built gameplay loops to be [effectively] an unpaid feedback tester [at this stage].
But for me, the past few weeks of game time I've spent and sold me on a game that could [in a few years] be a great MMO and space simulator - and I decided to invest in ships that would enhance that experience immediately.
To those who's only experience of this project is through early marketing materials, hit pieces & one line forum posts, I'd recommend [if you have the time & the open mind] to download the free trial this week which gives you at the moment free access to all the ships. There are some good videos [Morpholgist is particularly great here] that give you a clear guide on how to get the most out of your experience, the official website curates them into a playlist so you don't need to search far and wide.
I would love for there to be some actual journalism to occur in this space, because about 4 years ago they seemed to start from scratch again on pretty much everything [New engine, so I get new code - but they appeared to evolve their entire thinking process on art/mechancies which meant any of the gameplay loops they had in development looked like they had to start from scratch]. What happened here and what changed SC42's release window from 'next year' to 'it's done when it's done' would be an interesting story to tell.
A few weeks ago - I bought into the game. I had registered an account back when RSI first started, but didn't want to pay money for a concept and told myself I'd wait until something was tangible before pledging.
Some considerable amount of time later; I bought a starter pack at the start of the month and I've invested over $1k into the game this week.
High for a game, but comparable to Wishes over the course of Genshins release and Hearthstone packs/expansions - kinda avg. I'm kinda ashamed in retrospect on Genhin [I clearly cared far too much about getting great damage numbers/characters]. To some - this is reprehensible behaviour - but the level of salt [for the lack of a better word] feels out of proportion.
I get if posters here were backers at the start, sold in on the timeframe/single player experience that still hasn't materialised and feel like the game's direction from scripted to sandbox is unjustified - I'd be salty too if I bought into the hype that early and that seriously. Or those that paid money to a game [that while clearly states its in Alpha, markets itself as if it was a live-service game like Destiny] and they don't want to spend any time fighting through a slew of game breaking bugs and half built gameplay loops to be [effectively] an unpaid feedback tester [at this stage].
But for me, the past few weeks of game time I've spent and sold me on a game that could [in a few years] be a great MMO and space simulator - and I decided to invest in ships that would enhance that experience immediately.
To those who's only experience of this project is through early marketing materials, hit pieces & one line forum posts, I'd recommend [if you have the time & the open mind] to download the free trial this week which gives you at the moment free access to all the ships. There are some good videos [Morpholgist is particularly great here] that give you a clear guide on how to get the most out of your experience, the official website curates them into a playlist so you don't need to search far and wide.
I would love for there to be some actual journalism to occur in this space, because about 4 years ago they seemed to start from scratch again on pretty much everything [New engine, so I get new code - but they appeared to evolve their entire thinking process on art/mechancies which meant any of the gameplay loops they had in development looked like they had to start from scratch]. What happened here and what changed SC42's release window from 'next year' to 'it's done when it's done' would be an interesting story to tell.
If you ever feel the need to spend on Genshin again, come by the OT, most of us will do our best to beat it outta your head. ;)
Also, more on topic, yeah, this so far doesn't look like a 400m game, it's still broken as hell and at the pace they're going, I think the funds will dry up before they push it to an acceptable state for your regular customer. Would love to be wrong, but I just don't see it panning out.
Haha thank you! I'll be around when the next part of the map gets added I imagine........
I suspect they will release SQ42 as SC goes from Alpha to Beta, as development costs of SC42 is currently covered off - so it's going to be profit + production money for SC's remaining development. The real question is what the monetisation model will be on SC's eventual release as a service, to ensure contained development of gameplay loops and systems that clearly will not be built in time for even a Beta.
I haven't done that. I blame scammer not victims.
And you haven't answered 😉
and why did you call the game a scam and the people who have fun "victims"? Because you clearly don't know what a scam is nor why people are having fun with the game.
and that in one year and not in 10 years.
They're in a self perpetuating cycle: they want the best visuals and features so it takes AGES, by the time their stuff is ready to show it no longer looks like the best visuals or has the best features so they remake it to up date it and the cycle begins again.
This is a classic case of dreadful management. What they are trying to do isn't ambitious, it's ludicrous. If I said "I'm going to set up a space station at the edge of the solar system, please crowd fund me", that's not ambition; that's madness.
This is a classic case of dreadful management. What they are trying to do isn't ambitious, it's ludicrous. If I said "I'm going to set up a space station at the edge of the solar system, please crowd fund me", that's not ambition; that's madness.
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It's Agile Development - which is really rare for a big video game developer to truly use because publishers need to budget off Waterfall [logic steps from concept > release that are based off of previous experiances]. Here, they are truly tackling unknowns in development and have to figure out how to make them work - and someones they don't even know if it will work after multiple months/years of development. I find having a real-world use case for agile fascinating, but it's not for everyone thats for sure.
The lack of MvP publicly could give both backers and the development team something tangible to work towards, and we would hope manage lead times - but I suspect after what appears to be a ton of hit pieces, upper management have gone into hiding on that front and either have it, and are not sharing - or keeping it hidden until the project is effectively completed.
Didnt have many people to play it with but kinda got it purely as a "ill play this one day so whatever" honestly curious how this game is at this point, I got the basic level of it back a few years ago when I built my previous PC
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the alpha is in a playable state, even when there are not many gameplay loops fleshed out. And that is why the project has already reached 400 mio in crowdfunding. Last year was the most successful year in the crowdfunding campaign and that is not because it's a scam or "a dream", it's because the people are having fun playing the alpha (even with the bugs).
There are 3,3 million players/accounts already.
And they are using the money to grow:
Star Citizen developer plans 1000-person Manchester mega studio
Star Citizen and Squadron 42 developer Cloud Imperium Games plans to open a huge new studio in Manchester, making it on…
Elite players are switching too:
You again?
If you're looking for someone to play with, we have an org. Still lots of discussion happening in Discord, not so much on here these days.
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Digital Foundry has put out some good articles on the tech along the way. An attempt at a full story would make for a hefty coffee table tome.
I will probably upgrade to Avenger, a nice all-around solo ship. The most I see myself going is Cutlass Black, a medium fighter/freighter that can be flown solo.
Anything above that is too expensive and unrealistic for my solo play where I usually just explore.
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I don't think it's a scam at all.
It's a fucking Chris Roberts project with nearly unlimited money flowing in.
None of this is surprising knowing his history.
It's a fucking Chris Roberts project with nearly unlimited money flowing in.
None of this is surprising knowing his history.
This news broke 10 days ago.
They are hiring up to 700 people in the next 2 years and aiming for 1000 in the next 5.
$400 million is not a lot of money when you have hundreads of people to pay every month.
Cloud Imperium already has 700 people across their studios
Cloud Imperium to open Manchester studio
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The stupidly overpriced ships kinda are already.
Realistic procedural bartenders apparently.
saying it's a scam is very anti-developer.
developers having jobs is all that should matter to any of you.
developers having jobs is all that should matter to any of you.
If those jobs are paid with money fleeced from consumers under false pretences, then it absolutely matters.
Is this satire?
I don't think it's an intentional scam, but a lot of people are going to lose their money because of Chris Roberts' recklenssness and incompetence. He's going to end up being a case study for why projects like these need someone to keep the game designer's ambitions in check.
The situation with Star Citizen has been inexcusable for several years now. We all know what the problem is and yet people keep throwing money at this man.
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Server Meshing and Persistent Streaming Q&A - Roberts Space Industries | Follow the development of Star Citizen and Squadron 42
Roberts Space Industries is the official go-to website for all news about Star Citizen and Squadron 42. It also hosts the online store for game items and merch, as well as all the community tools used by our fans.robertsspaceindustries.com
Ah nice! With an exhaustive Q&A like that, it seems like the path to server meshing is finally relatively clear. Would be awesome if they'd manage to get it out next year around Q2-4.
That feature is gonna be a game changer.
BRB raising $500,000 for video game development, hiring one developer for one year as a token effort to complete the project while I spend 90% of the money on hookers and coke. Nothing wrong with this because "all that matters is developers having jobs". lmao