Heh. Sekiro combat translated to lightsaber is my personal dream. 🤷♀️
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order - Official Gameplay Demo
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Combat looking bad =\= your reductive rebuttal. It's important in a game that has a huge emphasis on melee combat for it to look and feel good.
No. it's an hand holder for platforming and usually a sign of weak level design. "I've made this platforming section. Not sure if its completely balanced so I'll give you a double jump so you don't get too frustrated while playing it"
Also Jedi can use the force to lunge. No need for double jumping
If you combined it with Bayonetta's responsiveness, sure. But I'm not about that feeling that my block, dodge, and jump inputs were just ignored because I was locked into some other animation. That's just not a good feeling in a fast action game where you want to be able to react in a snap.
Tbh, what is described in the GI article sounds so much better than what was actually shown. It's possible this is simply a slice of an early segment in the game, but if so I think that again, might have been somewhat of a mistake on Respawn's part. Better to polish a segment a bit further on that might have shown a better, more flattering and more accurate showing of the game, though they still have plenty of time left before release to polish and show it off, so not the end of the world.
So you think ND is a special magical developer that has finalized code in demos two years away from release? Demos can be so scripted due to unfinished features that even each bullet an enemy fires can be a scripted event.
I literally said that they implement these features in games and script them in demos for presentation purposes. I even bolded, italicized, and underlined that part. You didn't seem to be following the convo. Enough with this derail.
This has genuinely never happened even when i directly asked.
There's a segment that is a much better showcase of blaster shot blocking.Going from this
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HOOOOOOW
Looks fun to me. Curious about the 60fps: is that the standard even for consoles? If so, pretty cool.
lol. See, I want this game to resemble Bayonetta as little as possible, and to resemble Sekiro as much as possible.
agreed. i was half-expecting the MC in the demo to go "don't worry, chewie, i got you' when he saw that wookie imprisoned. i wish this game was set in KOTOR time period (that was a period way, way before any of the movies, right?). I kinda rolled my eyes when I saw forest whitaker character from rogue one.
but i think respawn is doing the best they can, considering they have to work with disney who does not allow any creative freedom when it comes to their licensed content. i will def buy it but disney is really not doing well with the star wars IP.
Other than being a linear third person game with cutscenes i definitely don't get ND vibes here. Parrying/Blocking/Dodging/using abilities fits the Sekiro mold more than the Uncharted mold.
There's also alot of videogamey stuff in that trailer that ND tends to avoid in its more grounded mechanics, like double jump and freezing a platform to traverse it.
Holding left trigger to deflect every incoming shot vs timing a block press to deflect. Also Darth Vader vs a Padawan lolGoing from this
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HOOOOOOW
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I'm just talking about the lightning responsiveness of the controls, not the the combat system or the game's style.
If you press dodge in that game, you will damn well dodge.
Fallen Order works the same as Battlefront, except you can block without even facing the enemy.
Hmm didn't look much fun. Almost boring tbh. A disappointing demo considering the hype around it. Will need to see more but that didn't excite me in any way.
I may be wrong but that second gif does not look like its timing the block to deflect. He holds it up for two seconds in a single pose and blocks all the shots even turned in a different direction.
Battlefront limits the block feature to a certai number of shots and leaves you vulnerable from numerous other directions.
I'm watching the Game Informer crew talk about it right now, they said you hold a button to block attacks or time the block press to deflect it back at the target.
And the Jedi doesn't even need to react to the shots. His force powers are so great that they simply reflect directly to their original position.
So tales from your....
You basically don't have any evidence, source or reason, you've just decided to assume ND showcased faked or scripted versions of these contextual animations from that demo, despite them being in the retail release of the game, and you've also decided to just assume that ND also fake stage demos when we have evidence that they don't, and when there's no evidence to suggest they do.
Also, these demos are never final code, but they can be close to, eg they spend months polishing up a particular segment of the game for demo purposes, the mechanics, animations etc of which they can or do then transition to other parts of the game. Both the UC4 demo's are like 99% close to the retail versions of the said levels, so clearly they were pretty close to final code despite being so early on.
I am not even in disagreement that the combat looked bland and boring (at times). Your post read exactly what I thought it did. You can call it reductive all you want.
I loved the original Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series back in the day. I remember getting a new graphics card for my birthday just so I could play Jedi Knight.
Needless to say, I am looking forward to this.
Needless to say, I am looking forward to this.
Well he's clearly just holding the button to block in that gif and not deflecting it.
I mean, aren't you just holding a single button to deflect all those blaster bolts in the above gif?Going from this
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HOOOOOOW
I know and that's why I specifically said deflecting, while in the Battlefront gif the player is holding block to deflect all incoming shots back at the target.
How Stig went from God of War 3 to this makes absolutely no sense to me. Sooo boring and how can a team with access to the Battlefront engine make something so visually bland
I understand it may look that way, but I'd have said the exact same thing even if everyone else was super excited :).
It's fine to have liked that gameplay video, no worries, different strokes for different folks.
I'm really excited for this but I can already tell I'm gonna wanna play it on hard mode. 1hit kills on the basic storm troopers is fine but I want those encounters to be intense af.
I laughed when the main char saw the map only to reveal the most linear level I've seen in recent years lol.
Game looks bad and clunky imo.
Game looks bad and clunky imo.
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Anyone else getting an Aliens Colonial Marines from this game?
NOT saying it's going to be that bad, but I mean more like they are working on this licensed game to bring some money in and are putting more effort into their own IPs?
NOT saying it's going to be that bad, but I mean more like they are working on this licensed game to bring some money in and are putting more effort into their own IPs?
So you're so delusional that you belive ND showcases finalized unscripted demos of games years out from release. Congrats on that.
You either parry it back via timing or holding to deflect.
He's a sith lord. It's meant to be effortless, it's the force blocking the shots for him. You are certainly not invincible doing it and can easily be killed in a few seconds if not careful, less in Battlefront 2. Add to that there's a limit to how much you can block (notice the yellow bar depleting).
In Fallen Order, given that holding block lets your back block bolts it's clearly much easier than Battlefront.
I think Hellblade's strengths or particular commendations are more in other areas, such as narrative, acting, atmosphere, visuals, art design, sound design etc, and not necessarily solely the gameplay or combat.
Does the MC have to look like Brad Pitt?
The character rendering leaves something to be desired. Ian has never looked this goofy on Shameless!