Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 5 | The Bear Necessities
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Overwatch just went from 0% to 5% chance of being in Smash, honestly
Tracer is at least a good design
Honestly, Tracer.
Say, isn't Overwatch's cast unionized? That could create issues with reprisals and the whatnot with Ultimate's non-union status.
Yeah all the character supporters you'd mentioned would be pissed. Especially Crash fans. This is also with Overwatch not being as well regarded in certain internet circles.
On top of that if her reveal is with an Overwatch port announcement it's absolutely going to get accusations of the character "buying" her way in or just being derided for being a marketing pick. With that said I think people would get over it and there would be way more happy with her reveal than not especially with her being a recognizable character worldwide. No one can say Tracer is really an unrecognizable character
Yeah, it would cause issues. Though I suppose you could go the Sonic/Lucina/Snake route & just use old lines. Either that or Blizzard somehow foots the bill to get Cara Theobold back, but she'd need to be uncredited.
Could they have her and some of the cast say lines for a potential trailer?
With that said I could see her not needing many new lines. There should be a cavalcade of Tracer lines they can pull for English
That's the case with any pick. Like might as well say Banjo killed off any potential for Western picks. If anything it's surprising we got another one considering how Japanese leaning Smash is
I love how some of you are so thirsty you'd jump onto any leaks no matter how dubious haha.
Let me go write something anonymous on 4chan which states the remaining characters are geno and a tetris block.
Let me go write something anonymous on 4chan which states the remaining characters are geno and a tetris block.
Like I said, they could if Blizzard foots the VA bill like Marvel did for MUA3. But since Smash Ultimate is already a non-union endeavor, they'd have to go uncredited (see Laura Bailey).
I've actually had D.Va in the back of my mind for a while now. I think she'd be super interesting adapted to Smash - just the basic "Tank D.Va <--> Baby D.Va" dynamic. It would be like the whole Samus <--> Zero Suit Samus thing from Brawl, but like, a lot more interesting.
Her default tank form would have all sort of tricks. Really short range melee attacks, but her default canons as her Neutral B, her shield as a Down B, her missiles for a Side B, and a CRAZY good recovery via the rocket boosters for her Up B. That, combined with being incredibly tanky, with lots of super armor and the like.
But once you rack up enough damage, she ejects and you have to run around as regular D.Va for a while. Everything is super weak, just melee attacks and her light gun. If you rack up enough damage, you can use her Down B to summon a new mech.
It'd be great! So much more interesting than most of the cast, whose gimmicks aren't as unique in a Smash context.
Her default tank form would have all sort of tricks. Really short range melee attacks, but her default canons as her Neutral B, her shield as a Down B, her missiles for a Side B, and a CRAZY good recovery via the rocket boosters for her Up B. That, combined with being incredibly tanky, with lots of super armor and the like.
But once you rack up enough damage, she ejects and you have to run around as regular D.Va for a while. Everything is super weak, just melee attacks and her light gun. If you rack up enough damage, you can use her Down B to summon a new mech.
It'd be great! So much more interesting than most of the cast, whose gimmicks aren't as unique in a Smash context.
I wouldn't say no to Shantae. Two Western girls. One a lesbian and another a POC while also getting an indie rep
If I recall, back during Brawl's development, didn't Sakurai state he and Nintendo had to get special permission from SAG-AFTRA to get the Metal Gear voice actors to reprise their roles? Highly doubt the union would be open to that option now, but it would be very interesting if they manage pull off the same thing.
If I recall, SAG-AFTRA requires the whole production (trailer recordings included) to be unionized in order to get the voice actors. Someone who is familiar with the dealings can correct me if I am wrong.
Just search up Tracer on Twitter and you can already see dudes are raging mad.
Both are fine but Tracer would be better. Her blink and recall ability would be fun to see in Smash.
Yea seriously. Everyone keeps swearing off leaks, and then jumps on them again.
Anyway some people have asked about what Overwatch could offer for music but low key I think Overwatch might have some of the most underrated music of this generation. The real problem with Overwatch music is that it's often for the map jingles which are pretty short but alot of them are great. The problem would be adapting and elongating them to work in Smash.
Tracer is actually at 12%, though (unlikely, but at least remotely possible). D.Va is legitimately at 0%.
Talking about leaks doesn't mean you 100% believe them. It's just people having fun
Egyptian Samus!
I think it's pretty weird that Lara Croft isn't discussed very often, especially when theoretically far less plausible characters like Master Chief and Doomguy come up all the time.
Honestly, Nintendo of America should be unionizing their games anyway, especially for big games like Smash. All they do by going non-union is cause problems (see Cloud).
Why are people saying D. Va for Smash? Been seeing that a few times over at various locations and really, I can't figure that one out. If we had to make a legit guess at who the Overwatch rep would be if it wasn't Tracer, the easy guess would be Genji. Besides the obvious moves you would give a swordsman (and to piss off people who keep complaining about "too many sword users"), Genji is kind of the 2nd face of Overwatch to Tracer. You are welcome to argue that point, but If the Overwatch League uses Tracers and Contenders uses Genji (and how both of them got their fancy "Super legendary skins" for Season 1), it would make sense for Genji to take the slot.
But yeah, pretty sure if it was one of the two, Tracer likely would take it.
But yeah, pretty sure if it was one of the two, Tracer likely would take it.
If you're referring to the SFV EVO reveals as another instance, that was one of the few times where a Capcom leak wasn't Capcom's fault (blame Steam).
Inb4 no RE character because there was no Capcom character to begin with
I would've thought she had a fringe chance before the whole Overwatch deal today but with the knowledge of a Switch port potentially being announced at the next Direct I would probably bump it to like 40%.
I could see Nintendo really pushing the Overwatch port as a big deal especially in a Direct where they'd have to inevitably answer the question of why Switch owners should renew their NSO subs. A huge focus on Overwatch as a flagship title for potentially the end of the year would work. This wouldn't be the first time Nintendo and Blizzard cooperated over a port. In fact this isn't even the first time Nintendo did all this for a port for this DLC selection alone
Yeah, it's a shame that the whole voice actor controversy and bombing of Codename Steam scared Nintendo from utilizing union actors. The dream of seeing the likes of Steve Blum, Kari Wahlgren, Crispin Freeman, Jennifer Hale, Tara Strong, Troy Baker, and other prominent voice actors in Fire Emblem might take a while...
People talking about percentages here are crazy. There is no single character with more than a 10% chance. Like, you can argue that maybe companies have something in the 40-50% range (like, there's a 40% chance that Character 4 or 5 is from Capcom, sure, that sounds about right), but there's enough possibilities within each company that no single individual has a 1-in-10 chance of being included. Maybe Heihachi. MAYBE.
Lara technically being owned by Square-Enix seems to be what's keeping her support low. If SE got another character in, most people figure it would be Sora or Geno or whoever - one of their Japanese properties.
But I'd be all over Lara. Preferably her classic design, but I'd be fine with either/both.
Lara technically being owned by Square-Enix seems to be what's keeping her support low. If SE got another character in, most people figure it would be Sora or Geno or whoever - one of their Japanese properties.
But I'd be all over Lara. Preferably her classic design, but I'd be fine with either/both.
Her biggest problem is being owned by Square-Enix.
And we all know that no one wants to entertain the idea of one company getting 2 characters in the pass.
One game bombing is not the reason Nintendo dropped Unions. The reasoning is greed. Why pay your talent good money when their are loads of people willing to do the work for cheap?
True but she also brought up Master Chief so that's not exactly a good defense. I say this as someone who gives no fucks about Laura Croft
I would absolutely welcome Lara Croft. Like everyone else says, Square Enix holds her back so I'm not getting my hopes up.
Kari Wahlgren and Tara Strong got into The Wonderful 101. Proof that Nintendo values W101 more than Fire Emblem.
The Adam Baldwin situation wasn't really something NoA could see coming, but it's a shame if that scared them off. But for situations like Chris Niosi, better background checks could help alleviate their concerns.
While greed probably played a role, the Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. was likely the final nail in the coffin.
That was before Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. bombed. Also, PlatinumGames actually gets union VAs on occasion.
Considering that Fire Emblem: Awakening, a non-unionized production, did better commercially than unionized productions like The Wonderful 101 and Codename Steam, that probably solidified Nintendo's decision to go non-union. The only exception, of course, was Kid Icarus Uprising.
I wonder when we can get another Nintendo game with a unionized English cast. WarioWare Gold was a huge missed opportunity to bring in union actors.
Honestly, i'd rather get an Undertale rep over either of those two.
At least I get a collection of bangers.
I think its a mixture of being bored + personal take on the potential character. Which is fine and all - but its better to take a skeptical look at these kinds of stuff. Especially those that aren't backed by anything.
Do you really expect anyone in this thread to seriously answer Steve?
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