They were marketing choices. Just not the type we are referring too for UltimateBut neither Ryu or Cloud were really marketing choices, & both were chosen by Sakurai rather than Nintendo.
They were marketing choices. Just not the type we are referring too for UltimateBut neither Ryu or Cloud were really marketing choices, & both were chosen by Sakurai rather than Nintendo.
I just think there have to be better ways to do it than "PAY US EXTRA FOR THESE CHARACTERS YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT". Cloud and Ryu (and to an extent Bayonetta) worked because those roster inclusions were characters people have affinity for. The sales argument is easy in that way. The same can kinda be said for Lucas/Roy/Mewtwo, since those characters were restoring cut playables to the roster that people might have wanted to have back.
But on the other hand, with "pre-marketing" characters like Corrin, you're being asked to give Nintendo free money for a character you might not like from a GAME you might not even like. Corrin was the worst Fire Emblem protagonist of all time and I'm legitimately glad I didn't shell out any money for him in Smash. I just don't think it's the right way to go.
"NOT ANOTHER ALIEN B****F*****!!!"I would love if all of a sudden Metroid became the next series people bitch about having over representation, i.e. Fire Emblem. Would feel so good.
Vergeben nuked his Smash credibly from orbit by saying that we'd get a Minecraft boss, so I wouldn't worry too much about Steve.I'm buying the fighters individually. The scare that MineCraft Steve could be DLC is too much for me to risk having it him taint my game. I don't want the stage, character, or music. Plus it's only saving 5 dollars if you get the pass. Nothing special.
He anyone else still not received their Pirahna Plant code for preordering digital?
Jesus the ranting a raving is real. I read all that you said. The entitlement jesus.
But neither Ryu or Cloud were really marketing choices, & both were chosen by Sakurai rather than Nintendo.
I'm so down for this.
I forgot to play fates (seriously) but I absolutely love Corrin in Smash. She's really fun to play, and I hope you try her out in Ultimate.Corrin was the worst Fire Emblem protagonist of all time and I'm legitimately glad I didn't shell out any money for him in Smash.
Seemed like a reasonable opinion to me? There's no ranting and raving.Jesus the ranting a raving is real. I read all that you said. The entitlement jesus.
Yeah. I have no insider knowledge at all, but I'm pretty certain that no Minecraft content will ever appear in Smash Ultimate.Vergeben nuked his Smash credibly from orbit by saying that we'd get a Minecraft boss, so I wouldn't worry too much about Steve.
Fates may be poorly written, but Corrin will always be cooler than Roy.I forgot to play fates (seriously) but I absolutely love Corrin in Smash. She's really fun to play, and I hope you try her out in Ultimate.
I forgot to play fates (seriously) but I absolutely love Corrin in Smash. She's really fun to play, and I hope you try her out in Ultimate.
I've had the Fates games in my amazon cart for pretty much all year. There was some rumor that they were getting ported to Switch that kept making me "wait a little longer." I've heard it's not the best story, but I'm still wanting to try it. I'm slightly scared it'll ruin my perception of Corrin though.Fates may be poorly written, but Corrin will always be cooler than Roy.
I'm so down for this.
I forgot to play fates (seriously) but I absolutely love Corrin in Smash. She's really fun to play, and I hope you try her out in Ultimate.
Seemed like a reasonable opinion to me? There's no ranting and raving.
Corrin's dragon form is based on a Chinese dragon called the Qilin.I'll give Corrin a look in this game because they come with it regardless, but that weird Dialga-looking Final Smash is just so confusing to me.
What's your perception of Corrin?I've had the Fates games in my amazon cart for pretty much all year. There was some rumor that they were getting ported to Switch that kept making me "wait a little longer." I've heard it's not the best story, but I'm still wanting to try it. I'm slightly scared it'll ruin my perception of Corrin though.
Lol I just ignore it. He's way too repetitive and dont really means what he says.Jesus the ranting a raving is real. I read all that you said. The entitlement jesus.
I mean I essentially just find her design, powers, and personality seen in Smash to be really cool and likeable.
Creepy that you mentioned barefeet as a positive.
But the problem is that there aren't many options left in terms of first party characters from already-released games that aren't either irrelevant or stuck in the Assist Trophy Shadow Realm. And I still don't think that third party characters will make up the majority of the Fighters Pass. It's that coupled with what Furukawa said not too long ago that has me expecting marketing picks for DLC (Byleth, Sylux, Gen 8 Pokémon, Octoling, etc.) alongside one or two third party picks that Nintendo would stand to benefit from in terms of marketing (Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter, etc.).I agree. Smash's tagline on the N64 box was "duke it out with your favorite Nintendo characters. " That summarizes the excitement of Smash Bros, that the characters that join the battle you actually have a connection to. And I don't mean every person is going to have a connection to every character, but characters that already exist, that people already know about, that people already care about are way more exciting additions in the spirit of that tagline than unknown characters. They don't embody that spirit at all.
Especially for DLC where you want people to actively buy the content.
Creepy that you mentioned barefeet as a positive.
Which reminds me that Corrin's outfit never made sense. It's obviously Just purly to go with the coloring of the Games themes lol
Well she's pretty strong in Fates.I mean I essentially just find her design, powers, and personality seen in Smash to be really cool and likeable.
Corrin's dragon form is based on a Chinese dragon called the Qilin.
Creepy that you mentioned barefeet as a positive.
Which reminds me that Corrin's outfit never made sense. It's obviously Just purly to go with the coloring of the Games themes lol
I've had the Fates games in my amazon cart for pretty much all year. There was some rumor that they were getting ported to Switch that kept making me "wait a little longer." I've heard it's not the best story, but I'm still wanting to try it. I'm slightly scared it'll ruin my perception of Corrin though.
Creepy that you mentioned barefeet as a positive.
Which reminds me that Corrin's outfit never made sense. It's obviously Just purly to go with the coloring of the Games themes lol
Fates has some good gameplay mechanics, and is the most ambitious FE game to date, but as others said the story is bad and the characters are mostly one-note cliches. I'm playing Echoes right now, and aside from the map design, the game is a lot more fun and has far better art and characters (except Faye). The plot is simple but at least it makes some sense.I forgot to play fates (seriously) but I absolutely love Corrin in Smash. She's really fun to play, and I hope you try her out in Ultimate.
Well she's pretty strong in Fates.
Her design is well loved. But as a character she's just really dumb and naive. Tho I've always argued there's more dumb characters in Fates like Azura.
If you do play Fates. Play conquest. It one of the most fun Fire Emblem games.
You're super lucky that you missed out on Fates. That game's writing was the worst I've seen since Wild ARMs 4, and anyone who's talked JRPGs with me knows how much I hated the writing in Wild ARMs 4. Corrin is written to be so unbelievably stupid it makes my soul hurt. He makes Barry Allen from the TV version of the Flash seem like a tactical genius.
I'll give Corrin a look in this game because they come with it regardless, but that weird Dialga-looking Final Smash is just so confusing to me.
Corrin was given bare feet as a deliberate choice by Kozaki. He apparently had an animalistic impression of the character in mind from their description and relation to dragons.Creepy that you mentioned barefeet as a positive.
Which reminds me that Corrin's outfit never made sense. It's obviously Just purly to go with the coloring of the Games themes lol
It was rumored that Fates would get a port of some sort to the Switch, but this was before Three Houses was announced.I've not heard rumors of a Fire Emblem Switch port. What rumor?
Vergeben nuked his Smash credibly from orbit by saying that we'd get a Minecraft boss, so I wouldn't worry too much about Steve.
If that character is in the game it'll be impossible to avoid fighting him or playing on his stage online if you play with randoms.
We like Ike! We like Ike!I think Roy is a cute character but Ike is wear it's at. Daddy Ike.
...I've never played a FE for longer than 10 minutes so I don't know anything about the characters outside of Smash.
I wouldn't argue that Ike is that deep. Yes, he undergoes a pretty stark physical maturation between PoR and RD, but in his arc of going from rookie merc to mercenary company head to leader of an army and international hero to legend, he doesn't really ever seem to undergo that much dramatic growth in his character. In some ways, I'd argue he even regressed between Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn.Out of all the Fire Emblem characters. Ike is the only one I would say is a deep character.
He's easy to understand but goes through much more development then everyone else.
-Chrom is pretty boring and simple (which even he admits).
-Corrin has a game about choosing sides and ends up being a simple character, who makes the dumbest choices base off gut and others advice. Bad writing there, they could've done so much with his conflicts.
-Robin- is pretty decently written, tho he's too "perfect" with his plans in Awakening and praised way too much by everyone.
-Roy is a kid who always does the right thing. He's as simple as it gets, not annoying but not exciting.
-Marth, I'm gonna have to pass on Marth since I played FE 12 in Japanese because I imported the game and SD writing is a blur to me.
-Lucina is a tragedy stricken character who loves her family. Still hoping we get another game with Lucina, a game in her timeline could be awesome (yeah I know about the DLC, but make a full game with better writing).
Well I'm still gonna try it out. I'm just late.
Let me know what you think afterwards! Who do you normally play as?I'll give Corrin a look in this game because they come with it regardless, but that weird Dialga-looking Final Smash is just so confusing to me.
Lol I'll try this.Fortunately it's more enjoyably dumb than anything. Like you could view it as Corrin's self insert fanfic.
I think this.I've not heard rumors of a Fire Emblem Switch port. What rumor?
I haven't played Echoes yet either haha, I'm really behind. I'll play that after Fates.Fates has some good gameplay mechanics, and is the most ambitious FE game to date, but as others said the story is bad and the characters are mostly one-note cliches. I'm playing Echoes right now, and aside from the map design, the game is a lot more fun and has far better art and characters (except Faye). The plot is simple but at least it makes some sense.