That was the Emmy award winning episode of The Last of Us on HBO with Emmy award winning actors Murray Bartlett and/or Nick Offerman.
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Pretty good. Not really sad though, they old as fuck and one has cancer? Go out on your own terms.
Absolutely fantastic episode. It was essentially a short story within the large story. When Ellie read the letter to Joel and the camera was on him the entire time, it seriously got to me.
Anyone who has played the game and thinks that this episode now has no bearing on the larger plot is kinda effectively missing the point I think.
In any adaptation, necessary changes need to be made in accordance with the medium it is adapted for as long as those changes stay true to the original theme of the source. I think this did that.
In a game you need action set pieces. Bill's town in the game is fantastic from a game perspective, but you can't have just 9 episodes of set pieces in a television show. That's just poor pacing for the medium.
Anyone who has played the game and thinks that this episode now has no bearing on the larger plot is kinda effectively missing the point I think.
In any adaptation, necessary changes need to be made in accordance with the medium it is adapted for as long as those changes stay true to the original theme of the source. I think this did that.
In a game you need action set pieces. Bill's town in the game is fantastic from a game perspective, but you can't have just 9 episodes of set pieces in a television show. That's just poor pacing for the medium.
I feel like the tv add-ons(tv show, Jakarta, expanded Sarah opening) are pushing counter to Joel's choice at least so it isn't so heavily sided.
God damn that episode was beautiful. I'm sure game purists will hate the deviations but screw that, that was amazing television. You can't do a prestige TV series that's just all action sequences.
As a Massachusetts native I laughed when they were in the middle of a thick, deep forest a mere 10 miles west of Boston. It's suburban sprawl at least 30 miles outside the city in reality, only broken up by small wooded areas here and there. And since Bill's Town was Lincoln that they were on their way to, that would have put them right around Waltham, which is definitely very far from being a wilderness area.
I did yelp with surprise at not only an appearance but also a vocal nod to Cumberland Farms.
As a Massachusetts native I laughed when they were in the middle of a thick, deep forest a mere 10 miles west of Boston. It's suburban sprawl at least 30 miles outside the city in reality, only broken up by small wooded areas here and there. And since Bill's Town was Lincoln that they were on their way to, that would have put them right around Waltham, which is definitely very far from being a wilderness area.
I did yelp with surprise at not only an appearance but also a vocal nod to Cumberland Farms.
Didn't Offerman come in to the role super last minute? What a hell of a role for an actor to land and pull off so perfectly. Bills town in the game was the most videogamey set piece possible so it's fantastic they choose to spotlight what successfully living through the apocalypse can look like and deviated from it.
But seriously that was the biggest double take when I realized Frank was Murray, had only seen him in White Lotus before. Talk about a different role lol. For some reason I thought of Bill Mosely first (eyebrows?) but then it finally clicked.
Like truly an Emmy worthy episode. I liked Bill in the game but hi and Frank's story on the show was spectacular especially as a Queer person watching it. This is the first episode we're I truly believe the show surpasses what happens in the game.
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Yup, they got another actor first but he had to drop out due to a scheduling conflict.
I was wondering why Joel was eating using just one hand but looking at this pic now, how his left hand is under the table, was he perhaps holding a gun down there? EDIT: nah nevermind went back to look and that's not possible.
That was simultaneously incredibly heartbreaking and uplifting holy hell
What a beautiful way to motivate Joel's terrible actions
What a beautiful way to motivate Joel's terrible actions
I said goddamn, the episode truly did live up to the hype. I just absolutely love how they take a major deviation in having Bill die, and yet it ends being infinitely better and more memorable than what the game did. They truly do understand how to adapt this story.
But yea, I was in sheer disbelief at the gradual realization that Bill would never meet Ellie, that there'll be no school section, etc. But again, this is just so much better, especially with the letter that will help inform Joel's actions later on, so good
But yea, I was in sheer disbelief at the gradual realization that Bill would never meet Ellie, that there'll be no school section, etc. But again, this is just so much better, especially with the letter that will help inform Joel's actions later on, so good
Don't know why you're framing it as imagining like I have neither played the games extensively nor could not have assigned episodes based on what Iiterally laid out.
I more or less already know how they will lay the rest of the episodes out based on where they are currently. My thoughts are how they will pace all that content given that I "personally" still feel like for where they are in the show, the Joel and Ellie relationship is behind where I would peg it was in the game.
You're free to disagree but you don't need to be condescending. I've played the game a million times. I'm not unaware of what happens.
I actually think this is a really good adaptation of that section of the game, it is a heavy gameplay section, that is largely unusable with the much better Bill and Frank story, but they did actually get the important bits for Joel and Ellie from it, mainly just that speech Joel gives Ellie on how it's going to go, whilst laying the early blocks of their relationship and as a nice bonus settings up stuff for later.
I only played the game once so maybe it's the same but my nitpick is the note saying "Joel go protect who you love" same way last episode ended with Tess. Just too on the nose and repetitive for me. Rest of the episode was very lovely.
Great episode loved the changes they made.
Didn't need the little baby in the rainbow blanket but that's just me.
Didn't need the little baby in the rainbow blanket but that's just me.
Episode is a massive swerve from what I expected based off the trailer. I thought the raiders was gonna be a huge battle. NOPE. The real battle was finding love along the way
I was looking forward to the Ellie/Bill scenes, but they really did a wonderful job diverting from the game here
Bill's loneliness was gut wrenching, and as much as it hurt to see that final shot at the window, I love that they gave the characters like 20 solid years together
Bill's loneliness was gut wrenching, and as much as it hurt to see that final shot at the window, I love that they gave the characters like 20 solid years together
after being pretty down on the first episode (it was good but it just didnt do much for me. felt like i was watching a show i'd already seen), ep2 definitely hooked me
but man, i was blown away by this week's episode
but man, i was blown away by this week's episode
She asks Joel if it's hard to kill one knowing it used to be a person. I think she's just proving to herself that she can do if she has to, and she's showing herself it's not human.
Agreed, not sure what that would have looked like other than them navigating around a shit ton of traps and infected. This was much better. Although I was disappointed in no "reunion" banter between Joel and Bill, I think the scenes between them in flashback at the dinner party established their dynamic well enough.
a little thing but I perked up when Ellie said being in a car was so cool and "Like a spaceship"
As someone who played the game....it literally made me want to go and see if there were any hints towards Frank & Bill.
Now I need to read all in game lore when I get to that section in the game.
I think the biggest moment was realizing Bill was gonna be gone too. That made me sit up and yell WHAT!!
Now I need to read all in game lore when I get to that section in the game.
Ok, this confirms something else because I knew Bill was alive when they got there in the game. I distinctly knew Frank wasn't.
I think the biggest moment was realizing Bill was gonna be gone too. That made me sit up and yell WHAT!!
It basically didnt exist in the game outside of like one pained expression/line no? They basically turned a set piece in a game into a character motivation which was beautiful. You choose what to live for. It also so refreshing to see post apocalypse not be a miserable hellscape for once.
Yeah man it's a real "Jesus, what the fuck" moment to go back to this letter after seeing the episode
Wait, you didn't know they were a couple? The game made that pretty clear.
Yeah man it's a real "Jesus, what the fuck" moment to go back to this letter after seeing the episode
Yea no wonder they just went ahead and changed the whole thing, jesus lol
It's distributed by the company that owns it so it's really just lucky corporate synergy.
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Their portrayal in the game is now noncanon in my mind haha. I greatly prefer this more uplifting and positive version of their story.Yeah man it's a real "Jesus, what the fuck" moment to go back to this letter after seeing the episode