The Last Of Us Part 2 Gameplay Reveal

Iced_Eagle · Jun 12, 2018

Gameplay looked super solid. Nothing radically changed in the formula, with the exception of maybe stronger stealth elements by hiding in the grass? I don't remember that in the first game.

I'm really impressed by their animation system though. It all just looks amazing.

Another small detail I really appreciated was they seemed to call out to each other by name, or when one of them died they were like "OMG she killed Oscar!!" I wonder how many NPC's are given that treatment of having their own name? They seemed just like grunts, but it would be cool if more of them had slightly distinct persona's.

Dragnipur · Jun 12, 2018

Siggy-P said:
As Progessive as Naughty Dog are they ain't entirely there yet. Both the two POC main characters in their last game were played by white women.

Am I missing something, or why does that matter?

uzipukki · Jun 12, 2018

This looked incredible. The characters were bonkers. And I loved the end where Ellie shot that enemy with the explosive arrow. Whoooo boiiiii

Tratorn · Jun 12, 2018

Vire said:
Just compare this with the Tomb Raider stealth sequence... It tries to accomplish the same thing, with tension, giving weight, meaning and desperateness to the gameplay - yet one looks like it was made with the gameplay from 10 years back and the other looking at the future of games.

I thought the same exact thing. The difference between the impact both demos had on me was more than huge. ND is really an outstanding dev.

famikon · Jun 12, 2018

Vire said:
Just compare this with the Tomb Raider stealth sequence... It tries to accomplish the same thing, with tension, giving weight, meaning and desperateness to the gameplay - yet one looks like it was made with the gameplay from 10 years back and the other looking at the future of games.

Pretty much.

data · Jun 12, 2018

gfxtwin said:
Oh, sweet summer child.

The world is already full of doom and gloom. I'm not seeing things getting better.

Video games are my temporary escape from reality. Sometimes I wish games showed slight better outlooks in the world's culture. Even if the world is shit, sometimes I hope that in that, there's a society that accepts people. Havent seen a lot of it in gaming especially the big names.

Gerwant · Jun 12, 2018

Rozart said:
At 08:59 when Ellie pulls out the arrow from her shoulder there's a prompt for it at the bottom right of the screen. it's a really nifty touch. I wonder how it'll negatively affect you if you decide to leave it in.

Probably worse aim, or maybe slowly depleating health? Would be cool.

Heckler456 · Jun 12, 2018

Siggy-P said:
As Progessive as Naughty Dog are they ain't entirely there yet. Both the two POC main characters in their last game were played by white women.

That said, it's the fungal apocalypse, and they held back too much with not killing main characters off last time. I'd be shocked if joel or anyone in that dance scene survive.

Riley wasn't.

Directed by Fulci · Jun 12, 2018

scrabble said:
Tomb Raider team must be shitting themselves. "Body! Looks recent." It's embarrassing.

Oh, I doubt it. The Tomb Raider games are great in their own right, even if they can't approach Naughty Dog's technical mastery.

In other news, I can't believe Sony showed this first. Diminished everything else they showed for me, and looks totally fucking bonkers.

I can't wait.

gfxtwin · Jun 12, 2018

data said:
The world is already full of doom and gloom. I'm not seeing things getting better.

Video games are my temporary escape from reality. Sometimes I wish games showed slight better outlooks in the world's culture. Even if the world is shit, sometimes I hope that in that, there's a society that accepts people. Havent seen a lot of it in gaming especially the big names.

I feel you, bud <3 , even though I'm not sure why you wouldn't be expecting some doom and gloom from TLOU :p

Dance Inferno · Jun 12, 2018

This game is clearly going for shock value with its gore, and I don't appreciate it. I'm not against violence in video games, but disemboweling a guy while he's being hanged is just unnecessary. We get it, the game is dark and edgy; we don't need entrails swinging around in the wind to make the point.

This will be a game that I pass on.

Siggy-P · Jun 12, 2018

Ricky_R said:
Nadine was designed after Laura was hired though. Also, TLOU not only featured a gay woman co-lead, but there were also three black characters voiced by black actors (yeah, they were all killed, I know). There was a second gay character in the game as well.

I mean, ND must be one the most progressive devs out there.

Honestly I really don't buy that they designed the character after hiring the actress. Also Elly being gay was relegated to the DLC until this year, and the other gay characters partner was dead as well.

I mean they're certainly being progressive though, I won't argue agaisnt that at all. They're just not as progressive as Druckman likes to pat himself on the back for being.

kittenbreath · Jun 12, 2018

data said:
During the trailer, when the other women mentioned that people were looking at them, it shows me that the world still isn't open to same-sex relationships.

I'd have to watch it again, but I think the dialogue was that the girl said all the men were watching Ellie because they were jealous of her, and Ellie replied "I'm just a girl. I'm not a threat to them." To which the other girl replied that she was a threat, and kissed her.

My interpretation of that was that the other girl is meant to be seen as very desirable (the asian guy, the other man she was dancing with, whoever was watching), and that Ellie might not have been aware that she was also attracted to women.

scrambledeggs · Jun 12, 2018

hipsterpants said:
Nah, ruining gay relationships via death in fiction is exceptionally common in comparison to the number of gay relationships we get in media. Doing it yet again after being so forward about Ellie's sexuality for an AAA game would be dumb.

This is hand-wringing over a speculative post though so we'll see what happens.

Yeah. I was concerned that Naughty Dog would end up offing her girlfriend and contributing to the long list of dead queer women in fiction again - but I'm keeping my hopes up. Since they're one of the most progressive devs out there, I would assume Naughty Dog would know about how problematic the trope is and would do their best to avoid / subvert it; but given the kind of world TLOU 2 is set against, it's definitely hard to tell (see Riley). If they do go through with Dina's death, I predict some degree of criticism - albeit nothing to the scale The 100 received lol.

Rozart · Jun 12, 2018

Vire said:
Just compare this with the Tomb Raider stealth sequence... It tries to accomplish the same thing, with tension, giving weight, meaning and desperateness to the gameplay - yet one looks like it was made with the gameplay from 10 years back and the other looking at the future of games.

The way ND is able to create tension in TLOU is class. They're in a league of their own imo. There's a weight to every action that Ellie takes. I mean you don't even have to compare it to Tomb Raider. Just take a look at how you feel when you're cornered in an Uncharted game vs how you feel when you were cornered in TLOU.

Weeaboosuke · Jun 12, 2018

I love the dodges Ellie can do when you're fighting somebody in CQC.

Loudninja · Jun 12, 2018

Weeaboosuke said:
I love the dodges Ellie can do when you're fighting somebody in CQC.

A welcome change.

Storybook · Jun 12, 2018

Naughty Dog >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every other studio.
No words can describe how amazed I am by what I've seen. Unbelievable.

data · Jun 12, 2018

gfxtwin said:
I feel you, bud <3 , even though I'm not sure why you wouldn't be expecting doom and gloom from TLOU :p

Oh hell yes i do. Doom and gloom to the crazies.

TLOU showed me hope in a dying world. Hoping this one shows me the same. Even if the entire journey is full of killing

take_marsh · Jun 12, 2018

As a hater of the first's gameplay, this one looks to be a lot more fun. I'm down.

LookAtMeGo · Jun 12, 2018

How do you improve on something like TLOU?. Love it or hate it, its gameplay is what it is. You cant deviate from it too much. Basically you just up the graphics, animations and A.I. Looks like they've done that so as long as the story holds up.

One of the things that made me love the first one was how believable everything felt. Facial animations, great voice and motion capture and the realistic violence all gave it a feeling I never really got from a game before and this looks like its taking it to the next level.

If they go do something stupid like kill off Joel at the begining of the game tho.. ill be pissed.

Piggus · Jun 12, 2018

Echo said:
Nah for me personally it was pulling guts out of an already helpless hanging guy. I didn't think I had a line in the sand with violence, but that made me discover said line pretty quick.

Good. Violence should be affecting if that's the aim of the developers. Have you not seen Game of Thrones? Walking Dead?

choodi · Jun 12, 2018

TAJ said:
I can't wait for the game to be like that when it ships only for you to then claim that you're not impressed.

Nope. If it ships and that is the average gamer's experience, then I will be impressed. I'm just sceptical after repeated "bullshot" E3 reveals over the years and Sony's history of overpromising and underdelivering on their E3 showcases.

Toddhunter said:
Let me guess, you have been saying the same thing since uncharted 1 right?

ND have a history of showing games that make people cry "that cant be what it looks like" "reaching out his hand to touch the wall? Must be scripted".

Yes for other companies you can be cynical. But ND have nailed it every damn time.

No, I can be plenty cynical about ND because they have not delivered on plenty of their early reveals.

When I see someone doing that with a controller in hand, I'll be impressed. Until then, I will be sceptical that this was actually real gameplay and not something that will fail to be replicated in real life.

I'm happy to be pleasantly surprised once this comes out, but for now I am keeping my hype in reserve.

Glassboy · Jun 12, 2018

Next level shit. Everything about the atmosphere, sound, animation, acting, a.i, details in the environments. I could not believe what I was watching. I always buy a few copies of Naughty Dog games to support them. Nobody better.

alexbull_uk · Jun 12, 2018

Weeaboosuke said:
I love the dodges Ellie can do when you're fighting somebody in CQC.

I really hope they're player controlled and not just automatically performed for you. Will make the combat feel amazing when you're low on health and do a great dodge.

Dragoon · Jun 12, 2018

Looks incredible. They did what I wanted, keep the base formula and improve it on many aspects

- animation is the best in any game.. the transition to moves, shoot, camera, etc is straight out of a movie. Everything 'flowed'
- hope we can do that pull back when someone's shooting online
- crouching is gonna safe haven for fraud campers online
- melee looks improved, curious to see how organic and diverse it will be
- brutality is on point
- HUD as always is on point. I hate when 20-25% of my HUD is covered with bullshit in games. ND's got some of the best UI/UX designers on the planet. <3 <3
- love how NPC enemies use real life names and talk, everything makes it feel more organic.
- it was incredibly tense for 8 minutes, can't wait to play this when it's vs clickers
- compared to the first, a lot of differences in terms verticality.. up down left right, all over the place. Makes battles more hectic. Curious if the MP maps are being designed as such, TLOU maps are some of the goat designed MP maps.

I thought TLOU Part II and Death Stranding would be far and away the best things at E3 this year. The former did its job, DS on the other hand.. well that needed a 10-15min uninterrupted demo as well. Want to see online at PGW.

data · Jun 12, 2018

kittenbreath said:
I'd have to watch it again, but I think the dialogue was that the girl said all the men were watching Ellie because they were jealous of her, and Ellie replied "I'm just a girl. I'm not a threat to them." To which the other girl replied that she was a threat, and kissed her.

My interpretation of that was that the other girl is meant to be seen as very desirable (the asian guy, the other man she was dancing with, whoever was watching), and that Ellie might not have been aware that she was also attracted to women.

Getting a lot of different takes. I'd be glad to be wrong.

Still, it reminded me of how not a lot of games explore the topic or if they do, well.

Hypron · Jun 12, 2018

Looking great. Between DMCV, death stranding, Resident Evil 2, Sekirō, and now this, this E3 has been great for me. I'm especially looking forward to this and DMCV out of the lot.

Rozart · Jun 12, 2018

Gerwant said:
Probably worse aim, or maybe slowly depleating health? Would be cool.

Oo. That would be nice. I'm trying to see if her health bar is slowly depleting in the vid but it's hard to tell.

iamthatiam · Jun 12, 2018

Piggus said:
Not really the same situation. The first trailer was a concept, not actual gameplay.

Come on...lets be honest. he has a point. a downgrade Is a downgrade.

Even if its a 10 seconds teaser.

Juan29.Zapata · Jun 12, 2018

hipsterpants said:
It would be embarrassing as fuck if this game is LGBT positive as it looks to be then they go with the old shitty trope of killing off her potential lover.

They are definitely killing her. Neil has said that this game's theme is Anger. And her being angry as fuck in the first trailer, while happy with her partner makes me think something happens to her. "Bury your gays" is very much alive in this medium. Lamentably.

OR Joel is the one who dies and it's just an illusion of her in the first trailer.

scrabble · Jun 12, 2018

Dance Inferno said:
This game is clearly going for shock value with its gore, and I don't appreciate it. I'm not against violence in video games, but disemboweling a guy while he's being hanged is just unnecessary. We get it, the game is dark and edgy; we don't need entrails swinging around in the wind to make the point.

This will be a game that I pass on.

I wished you people would just admit that you don't like "too much violence." It's not unnecessary or 'torture porn' just because it makes you uncomfortable. The demo made me uncomfortable too.

sonofsamsonite · Jun 12, 2018

I wonder if there's any chance of this getting an AO? Or that it will need to be censored to avoid it? What we saw in the demo was brutality on a visceral and realistic level, in a gritty and realistic setting. Not fantasy violence like you get with a God of War. And a lot more impactful than something stupid like Hatred, which is the only released game I know of that got an AO for violence.

PLASTICA-MAN · Jun 12, 2018

I wonder which thread will have the most pages, Death Stranding or TLOU2. A tie for now.

Soj · Jun 12, 2018

If the combat animations are that good in the final game, I will be very impressed.

Glassboy · Jun 12, 2018

Dance Inferno said:
This game is clearly going for shock value with its gore, and I don't appreciate it. I'm not against violence in video games, but disemboweling a guy while he's being hanged is just unnecessary. We get it, the game is dark and edgy; we don't need entrails swinging around in the wind to make the point.

This will be a game that I pass on.

I think the graphics and animation are getting to a point that they are so realistic that people are having a hard time watching them. It's a curious time when they are only gonna get more and more realistic. What do you think about the violence in RE2? Granted we didn't get a good look, but do you feel differently?

henhowc · Jun 12, 2018

i like that there are asian faces. poor guy never stood a chance against ellie though haha

B.O.O.M. · Jun 12, 2018

This might be a crazy/silly question, could you go under vehicles/spaces in TLOU1? I don't recall.

sonofsamsonite · Jun 12, 2018

Juan29.Zapata said:
They are definitely killing her. Neil has said that this game's theme is Anger. And her being angry as fuck in the first trailer, while happy with her partner makes me think something happens to her. "Bury your gays" is very much alive in this medium. Lamentably.

OR Joel is the one who dies and it's just an illusion of her in the first trailer.

Ugh. I hope they aren't that lazy.

zsynqx · Jun 12, 2018

B.O.O.M. said:
This might be a crazy/silly question, could you go under vehicles/spaces in TLOU1? I don't recall.

You could not. I'm curious if it's only contextual or if you can go prone at any time.

alexbull_uk said:
In the crafting menu there's a pistol with a suppressor attached to it. You couldn't attach suppressors in TLoU1 could you?

Nice catch. There were no silencers in part 1.

Wrapped in Black · Jun 12, 2018

Ellie would kick Nu Lara's ass

alexbull_uk · Jun 12, 2018

In the crafting menu there's a pistol with a suppressor attached to it. You couldn't attach suppressors in TLoU1 could you?

I really like what they've done with the UI overall. Very clean.

B.O.O.M. · Jun 12, 2018

zsynqx said:
You could not. I'm curious if it's only contextual or if you can go prone at any time.

Yeah if you can go prone AND actually use spaces in the environment to crawl under, the dynamic possibilities during enemy encounters would be insane

farmland · Jun 12, 2018

The combat seems nice and dynamic as well as fluid, super hyped for this.

mullah88 · Jun 12, 2018

B.O.O.M. said:
This might be a crazy/silly question, could you go under vehicles/spaces in TLOU1? I don't recall.

no you couldn't.

as for the gameplay reveal, i love everything about it (the exploding arrow tip!!!). hopefully this carries over to the online gameplay

Mysterio79 · Jun 12, 2018

Game looks crazy good

HardRojo · Jun 12, 2018

ronco2000 said:
It's the same gameplay as the first. What did you expect? Were you expecting super powers or a Leviathan axe?

Yeah I don't get it, this is clearly keeping the gameplay we've already gotten used to in the first game, with some refinements here and there to give you more tools for traversal and combat, evading seems to be a thing now, plus there seems to be melee weapon clashes or something like that. Explosive arrow seems to be a new tool and that's the first one we've seen, there might be more. I don't really know what people were expecting, witch time? Teleports? Devil triggers?

ronco2000 · Jun 12, 2018

Dance Inferno said:
This game is clearly going for shock value with its gore, and I don't appreciate it. I'm not against violence in video games, but disemboweling a guy while he's being hanged is just unnecessary. We get it, the game is dark and edgy; we don't need entrails swinging around in the wind to make the point.

This will be a game that I pass on.

Better not watch Walking Dead then. It's EYE poppin'.

Seesaw15 · Jun 12, 2018

data said:
Very happy to see gameplay. Loved the smooth transitions and animations. Hoping that is going to play out like that in the final game.

However, I'm very worried with the current state with regards to AAA games.

I'm happy that Naughty Dog is sticking to its guns and having same-sex relationship in the game. However, why is it that most developers make the rest of the world homophobic?
Obviously not the entire world, but most of it.

During the trailer, when the other women mentioned that people were looking at them, it shows me that the world still isn't open to same-sex relationships.

Why do most games make such a bleak outlook of the world when we have been progressing well recently (obviously, not in all places is completely well especially in the US after the SCOTUS rulings)?

The game doesn't have to be realistic and I don't like seeing the constant strife that is caused by being outcasted become of same-sex relationships but even in TLOU they make the world look so bleak post-apocalyptic.

Am I wrong and just blind to (AAA) games that are open about it and have worlds that are accepting of it, or will this continue to be the norm? The status quo being constantly maintained that same-sex relationships are frowned upon?

The scene in the dance hall had no implied homophobia. All it showed was Ellie being bashful dancing with a popular girl.

There could be a homophobic plot line but there's no indications from that scene.

Raylan · Jun 12, 2018

What an amazing trailer. This game looks awesome! A next gen The Last of Us and boy....... does it look DAMN GOOD! WOW!!

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