That's not the point.
The point is he said the racist thing he did in either an oblivious or completely self-aware way. Both are super bad.
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Trump said Japan should have shot down overflying North Korea missiles
- Thread starter Zeno
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That's not the point.
The point is he said the racist thing he did in either an oblivious or completely self-aware way. Both are super bad.
Japan cannot shoot down those missiles, even if they have something which is designed to do so. Systems like THAAD have a relatively poor success rate. So what if they try to shoot down a NK missile and fail? NK is then emboldened because they know Japan can't do anything to stop them.
Trumps assertion that Japan should have shot down the missiles shows a severe lack of both diplomatic capability, and knowledge of defensive capabilities. Things the leader of a nation should have 11 months into his term.
You want them to intercept what could possible be a nuclear warhead, when it's over their nation?
JFC, is the US international image in tatters forever from this (+ everything else this idiot has done)?
I'm not familiar at all with the specifics of Japan's self-defense force and what armaments they are allowed to own without it being considered a violation of treaty and put them back into the category of having a standing army. Is an anti-missile defense system even allowed for them, or does it violate treaty agreements?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegis_Ballistic_Missile_Defense_System#Japanese_deployment
Shooting missiles down that aren't going to hit them might violate some things though.
It's pretty bad when Osama Bin Laden probably knew more about Japanese culture than our lovely POTUS.
OBL was a brilliant dude though. He got the CIA to fund his fight against Russia.
Only thing Trump has got the CIA to do is leak all types of damaging info about him.
Edit: Just to be clear, I think OBL was horrible for all sorts of reasons, mainly 9/11, I just wanted to make the point even he was smarter than Trump.
Japan has patriots, but desires the THAAD system and is also developing a multi-stage missile shield.
The thing with missile shields is they can theoretically be used offensively. It's part of why Russia always kicks up a stink about the US creating missile shields in Europe.
Also this.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/i...s/news-story/66b2a67ef21952e3d4af0381d74de0e0
Japan doesn't know if they can intercept the missiles. So until they know they are able to, it's best not to try because they'll possibly show holes in their defensive capabilities.
Thanks for that post. Not very encouraging. So much for the inspiring, militaristic drum a la Evangelion playing as military briefings start up, while a crack team of squad and defense coordinators all chatter simultaneously on their comm channels to conduct a military engagement with mechanical precision...
No fuckin way. No way did he say that.
brb going to read the link....
I don't see a direct quote in the link.
Again, you have mistaken me, I probably hate Trump more than you hate him! We are on the same side guys.
They could, and should have destroyed the missile.
Source: Wikipedia
They could, and should have destroyed the missile.
This has not been tested in a real life situation. They don't know if it will work. Not to mention that was a scud based missile, not a full fledged ICBM. Different missiles require different defense systems.
PAC-3 does not work against longer range missiles like the one used. AEGIS might not either depending on whether it was an ICBM or not. The only system that is designed for the type of missile used is GMD which only the U.S has and its testing record is pretty terrible.
As someone who has lived in Japan for several years, I can confirm it is a nation of samurai. Many of them have been trained to use their swords to cut down intercontinental missiles, so it's baffling why Abe-souridaijin-dono-sensei-chan doesn't just order them to use their secret battle techniques to do so.
From what I understand, he's concerned that the UN would step in and regulate the samurai, which would cause a lot of problems and potentially lead to another situation resembling Tom Cruise's The Last Samurai. I think these concerns are unsubstantiated.
And Trump-daitouryou-kun doesn't even know about the training the ninja and idol singers have been through. Japan is likely the most dangerous nation in the world due to their traditional warriors.
From what I understand, he's concerned that the UN would step in and regulate the samurai, which would cause a lot of problems and potentially lead to another situation resembling Tom Cruise's The Last Samurai. I think these concerns are unsubstantiated.
And Trump-daitouryou-kun doesn't even know about the training the ninja and idol singers have been through. Japan is likely the most dangerous nation in the world due to their traditional warriors.
So... are you telling me that Trump just shot himself in the foot and asking me how much I know about Japanese culture (because you're an expert)...?
So? The US has the same problem. They don't actually know if the system will work in a real world situation. Most of the tests conducted with the Aegis and THAAD systems have been done against targets within the atmosphere and launched from cargo planes at relatively low speeds.
Cool, didn't know that, thanks.
That sucks for South Korea then. I guess I will have to wait a really long time for my oled iPhone X if Samsung land /South Korea gets nuked :-( Not to mention it's not nice for all the people that live there, or their grandchildren..
As a European here's my view on it.
I'll probably start to "believe" in America again in around 16 years, if these criteria are met:
- Donald Trump doesn't get a second term
- A good Democrat president is elected, gets 2 terms.
- Then America elects another Democrat for president, who gets 2 terms as well
- If Republicans nominate crackpot crazy people as their presidential candidates in the future, the Democratic candidates need to win convincingly
- Republicans lose control of both the senate and house during the next 3 years, and doesn't manage to come close to controlling both of them again
I think the first two are pretty expected at this point. The last threethough, that's where America will start to earn back some street cred around the world I think
The Democrats only got one term after Nixon. I'm not optimistic.
That reminds me of the time he said Japan should pay the US for its protection instead of getting it for free...
Why didn't they just send a Zero to take the missle out?
Dang it, you took my post!
Anywho, I can't I'm surprised anymore that he is this stupid.
100% by Tuesday.
He's also cautioned them about the dangers of psychic biker gangs.
