US PoliEra 2019 |OT3| YOU WERE AT MY WEDDING, DENISE
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Honestly if you told me which one you want out right now McConnell or Trump, I would say McConnell without hesitation. Glad the fucker is 77 years old.
Unfortunately being pure evil seems to make people live a long time.
Can someone explain or theorize how Obama won 2012 despite 2010 and his low first term approval ratings? Was Mitt just a terrible candidate (and not just a terrible person)? I voted in 2012 but that may be the first year I started looking at politics in depth.
The arbitrary whim of the speaker deciding law in this country is the antithesis of democracy.
Vic out here doing the Lord's work. I look forward to the next Rogan thread in OT.
I get it though. There's a system in place and people in power that make one think, especially after the Barr letter, that nothing can be done. I take a thread like that as knee-jerk reaction to the collusion stuff and GOP/Trump jumping on it even though we haven't actually read the report as they control the narrative - that thread is kind of proof that they are doing just that.
But seriously, we're coming off a good 2018. The motivation across the board was there and that was only mid-terms.
I get it though. There's a system in place and people in power that make one think, especially after the Barr letter, that nothing can be done. I take a thread like that as knee-jerk reaction to the collusion stuff and GOP/Trump jumping on it even though we haven't actually read the report as they control the narrative - that thread is kind of proof that they are doing just that.
But seriously, we're coming off a good 2018. The motivation across the board was there and that was only mid-terms.
http://dcstatehoodyeswecan.org/j/in...atehood&catid=57:statehood-process&Itemid=120
What's been proposed is that the federal government creates a state out of the part of DC outside of the White House/Congress/mall, etc. So DC would still exist but it'd literally just be the core federal buildings.
You can't read too hard into midterms because generally they swing against the party in power. Second, turnout in midterm years is lower than presidential election years. Higher turnout favors the more liberal candidate.
Unlike PR I assume they have to create a legislature and house it or build one somewhere? Will they have to incorporate towns and cities etc? Unfamiliar with DC living.
Jack meanwhile is shitting on his hands and smearing it all over his body
Trump is a master of strategy.
I'll believe it when I (don't) see it.
I'll believe it when I (don't) see it.
God while I absolutely shudder at the possibility that this goes through I can't help but be giddy that he is really trying to go all in on this while creating a conflict with the rest of the party going into the election year. Plus it will constantly be brought up as the dem primary heats up so it will stay in the news
If it gets killed due to Republican efforts, 2020 will be uglier for the GOP.
McCarthy can see this, Trump can't.
Someone has to explain to the Orange clown that Repubs only like to "talk" about destroying ACA. Let's not actually do it that's crazy talk then we'd have 1 less boogeyman!
I don't think Trump wants to win re-election. He just wants to eliminate everything Obama accomplished to get back at him
I am not on facebook, never have been and never will be, but I am kind of shocked as to why this stuff was allowed on there to begin with. I mean if I owned a social media site, I would think bullet point #1 on the to do list would be keep Nazis off it.
I love that the republicans need Trump, but Trump keeps screwing them over for no good reason lol
Yeah, this is factually inaccurate. It's 10 miles squared (100sq mi), not 10 square miles. The original plot for DC included land on the Virginia side of the river that was a 10x10 zone. It was meant to be a failsafe to keep the urban and commercial hubs where they already were and not create some megacity over time.
It's the same as always since 2016. He doesn't want to be President but he also can't handle losing so he just does whatever is most spitefully satisfying in the moment.
Republicans were 1 vote away from destroying the ACA and fully believed they were going to do it. They absolutely want to destroy it at any chance they can.
They just, rightfully, see that this avenue is a disastrous way to do it, versus there original plan of defunded and slowly killing it.
Have they been handed off to another prosecutors office or something?
I actually think he's worried he might not win again and he'd miss out on the one thing that has mattered to him more than anything. So he's going to push to kill it, because he wants killing it as his legacy and the absolute biggest "fuck you" to the Black President.
Well that and none of them really oppose the ACA ideologically, they just hate that Obama gets all the credit for it. If McCain had won the presidency in 08 and proposed the exact same bill it would have gotten 80 votes in the Senate.
The white tech libertarians have an annoying (and frankly, dangerous) belief that if we just give a platform to hate groups and let them air out their beliefs, normal people will obviously be so repelled by it they'll see how crazy it is and no one will listen to them!
And if they end up winning supporters, it's liberals' fault for not coming up with a compelling enough counterargument, but also we can't point out that they're bigoted in any way, because that would really be just as bad.
I can see him not running again if he's able to end Obamacare. He will say he's accomplished everything he wanted to do.
The presidency is the only thing keeping him out of prison.
I think he actually wants to win re-election because of the "can't be indicted for my crimes" powers he's currently enjoying.
He wants to destroy the ACA because he's a racist bent on undoing every last thing Obama did. Political repercussions will never outweigh the racism for him.
He wants to destroy the ACA because he's a racist bent on undoing every last thing Obama did. Political repercussions will never outweigh the racism for him.
He would take a hit if he stopped being President. Legally and financially, it's advantageous for him to stay President. Who's going to want to stay in his hotel expect right wing clowns if he doesn't have any power? Maybe the Saudi's will in order to return the favor.
No no, bullet point number one on any to-do list is always to create value for shareholders or potential future shareholders, you see.
He can still be indicted by the state of NY on state charges and the belief is SDNY could also indict him, although I don't think Barr would let that happen.
I'd imagine he would leave and immediately build his hotel in Russia and start his far right tv news network he was planning to if he lost in 2016
Maybe Barr pushed the Trump investigation to end early. Release the report.
It's Buzzfeed so we should expect a clickbait headline but that seems written to make people mad
Buzzfeed said:
The Fight Over Treating Neo-Nazi Terrorists Differently From Muslim Ones
Lots of interesting stuff in this article.
Lots of interesting stuff in this article.
One could theorize that Barr convinced Mueller to end his investigation by spinning them out to places where it would be easier for Barr to control and harder for the media to keep track of, but I'm not in a place where I think Mueller would acquiesce to such a transparent ploy yet.
Yeah, I also think 37% here is suspect.
47%? I could believe that. But not 37%.
I don't see any state throwing criminal indictments at a sitting President, regardless of who it is. Maybe NY would if he actually did murder someone on 5th Avenue, though.
Besides, isn't it still an open question on if states can even do this?
Pretty sure states can if they choose to.
Republicans leaking that Dems are trying to get Trump financial info
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