I'm on your side. I don't have a problem with them releasing it. But I know they only released it because they are an entertainment network.
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US PoliEra 2020 |OT 1| THE ANTI BENGHAZI (Read Staff Post)
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I'm on your side. I don't have a problem with them releasing it. But I know they only released it because they are an entertainment network.
Completely different situations. CNN owns the audio they record for their broadcast
Well, okay. But if you think Reuters or the AP wouldn't've released that, you're wrong.
I wouldn't've been able to do the math without bernie explaining to me how the flow of time works, no. After all, I'm a woman, and need a man to explain to me how math works.
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This firtash stuff is scandal all on its own, ringing in fox news lawyer power couple digenova and toensing.
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If you don't speak out against the bad one's, are you really a good one?
That's the same logic many of us on the left use against "what about the good cops" defenses. Why whould we use it here against bad sanders supporters? Or bad supporters of anyone left wing/left allied?
I want to repost this in PoliEra. Both Warren and Sanders have similar agenda and we shouldn't blow this again.
No, to be clear, I'm talking about exactly that. Sometime in 2015 I went on Twitter and specifically went out of my way to add a bunch of people who I felt were reasonable but totally wrong about everything. On the right I had David Frum, Jennifer Rubin, Ross Douthat, a few other people. On the left, I had the Bruenigs, mostly. I did this very deliberately to ensure that my bubble would include arguments I felt were clearly incorrect, drawing on sources and stories that my normal followers wouldn't include. Otherwise, as you say, the algorithms will only push you information you already agree with. Maybe this is what you meant too and you've already done this, but in general I think everybody needs to do it. Every diet requires a certain amount of roughage. I actually need to do it again pretty soon because I no longer disagree with the people on the left and need to add even more unpleasant leftists to the feed (and a bunch of the right-wingers moved towards me).
Seems like he keeps shit documented. So I'd think yes.
But like.....how have the people in Iowa not already made up their minds and with this really changed them? Idk seems crazy. Like, I imagine they'll even forget before they go to the polls lol
it's not a question of whether they have legitimate access, it's a question of whether publicizing it serves the public trust
Biden is still likely to win regardless. This whole squabble hurts Warren the most despite having a very strong debate performance. Her support is very elastic compared to Sander's.
Overall I am not a fan of this squabble. It distracts from the bigger goals both of them are trying to achieve. I don't think this hurts either of them all that much numbers wise but it helps no one but Biden (and Buttiegeg I guess).
If one of them wins the nomination they'll have to have both very convincingly kissed-and-made-up and one will also very convincingly have to throw all of their weight behind the other. (I think this is possible because they are longtime allies having a bad spat.)
That's if one of them wins. Which they rather likely won't, so, whatever.
We do, because I think you fit into both of those groups I mentioned, which is why I suggested you re-read what I wrote especially after you wrote what you did. And that's a hard thing to read, I understand.
I don't think it is pointless to try and help someone sporting a candidate's avatar that maybe they need some self-reflection on issues pertaining to said candidate.
Which doesn't mean one should be skeptical of all information, but not reflectively parrot or promote opinions that one agrees with. Not just pertaining to you, but the whole "cultist' thing that started this discussion, where the people in those groups do this. I was a Harris supporter before shifting to Warren. We had a very prominent, and a person of authority around here, very much promote and propagate Harris, and at times insinuated some gross things about people who weren't loudly gun-ho for her. Despite being a supporter, I tried to speak out when I thought they stepped over the line of decency and judgement. That's because I'm trying not to be in a cheerleading bubble for one person. If the goal is just my candidate, you can lose sight of good being done in other ways, and, yes, most vile to some, smaller ways.
Being bombarded with information to suit one's narrative is a problem. If it is a problem for you, stop using twitter, facebook, TYT, Chappo, or whatever, and expand your view. Don't just read the things you agree with, and don't just post them. If you read/see something you disagree with, is critical of your views or candidate, try to take a, dreaded, "self-reflective" moment to understand why someone wrote that, what it means, and specific reasons for why they are wrong, other than resorting to racist talking points and conspiracy jargon.
And even if this is the case, it doesn't mean that any and all flaws of Sanders, or his supporters or his phrasing or his demeanor or his staff or his surrogates or his defunct institution's fellows or his boosters, is beyond reproach.
I do think self-reflection is important, and I try to do it. I do it all the time with my politics to make sure if I believe things for the right reasons, if I truly believe them, and how well I believe them. And I try to view them outside of myself. And sometimes I'm hit in the face with something I don't like, and while I recoil or turtle up at times, I also try to face it head on and clear, and listen, and absorb, and hopefully better myself, even if that means admitting I was wrong. That can take time, and it can hurt to realize one is a part of the problem, sometimes majorly, but hopefully if they're honest with themselves, they can improve and do good outside of doing bad to others.
Wow, not only did Barr speak with Rudy about getting the charges to Firtash dropped but also to DiGenova and Toensing about it as well, "They're all best friends" "Barr had to have know everything."
By most accounts they havent. We had an article on here a few days ago about how Iowa dems were nervous as all hell about picking the right candidate.
Really wonder if the Rs are gonna seriously protect this guy right before the election.
To answer your question, I'm doing what I think is necessary to combat trolls. Starve them of oxygen and tell others to do the same.
But what you're doing here is comparing my point to the defense of structural racism that oppresses and enslaves minorities. It's an EXTREMELY inappropriate comparison that I doubt you'd make if you weren't living in privilege. You should reflect on that for a minute.
depends what you mean by matter, in practice biden was the frontrunner and he still is
They'll protect him up till the moment he loses and then deny that they ever did.
Then again, you just called what might possibly be one of the most important hours of television this decade "trash".
Let's all try to remain cool.
And I think it does? One of them is lying and it's disqualifying at this point
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I mean those same bad people for Sanders also happen to think we should stop doing "Identity politics" and other unsavory topics/ideas.
Maybe you should reflect on what's going on. I can't comment on everyone else's stance on this issue but the very thing I warned against months ago in Socialism era is happening. The bad apples are being sexist/racist/some type of ist and the other bernie supporters are latching onto it because they love their guy. To hell if the underlying point is a bad one.
You have Bernie Bros un-ironically linking Warren with Clinton for God's sake. This is the shit I warned against in the first place.
Bernie is not the end of the leftists movement. He can also be wrong. Everything is not some Liberal/Media ratchet job.
it was cable tv news, frankly not calling it trash should probably be a ban
In that case all parties involved need to be brought down, if they aren't I really don't think your country will survive as a democracy =/
I think we agree on a lot of this. My sources of information skew towards the left primarily because we're kinda in an information war with a large chunk of centrist thought. It's why I don't take information at face value anymore and I try to analyse information through my own rationality. And, despite my avatar, I am internally critical of Sanders. I don't discount everything said about the guy. I do legitimately try to do my best with the space I'm in.
But hey, we can be friends too despite our ideological differences. I'm a big Monkey Island fan too :)
If we win in 2020 they will be, otherwise rip.
This decade started 15 days ago, and it's a cable news program. Cable news is a detriment, and something I will always try and steer people away from since it is actively toxic and a part of the reason why information is isolated and sportsmanlike in excess.
I've posted rather calmly today, and I wish you the same as you let us know what you are watching tonight as always.
It is so completely inappropriate to dredge up cross-thread drama - something the staff has been very clear about not doing - while also using it to condescend to leftists. This is gross. You aren't helping to make leftists feel comfortable posting in these discussions like this. It is alienating. You talk about self-reflection in your post, I implore you to do the same.
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