No doubt. It's apparent Xbox has been making moves to change it as well.
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It seems like it will become that XSX launches on 29th September or some date and price will be announced on 30th September at this rate.
I don't expect pricing/release details until August. That's about as late as I can expect them holding things back, but surely they'll need time to square things away with retailers, pre-orders, game launch dates, etc.
It is pretty crazy to think about though - by this time last gen we could already pre-order the consoles, games, etc. with firm dates and prices. This time around... nothing!
It is pretty crazy to think about though - by this time last gen we could already pre-order the consoles, games, etc. with firm dates and prices. This time around... nothing!
Is there any idea when in July we should be hearing about new games?
Im starting to think this unannounced June event was delayed because they caught word that Sony wasn't going to announce price at their June event.
Im starting to think this unannounced June event was delayed because they caught word that Sony wasn't going to announce price at their June event.
I think your issue is treating those ideas as mutually exclusive; focusing on services and subscriptions doesn't preclude them from being aggressive with the pricing of their new consoles. Selling services requires devices, and consoles account for a sizable piece of that pie. The more agile they are with pricing and SKUs, the larger the piece they can get - even if it only increases their footprint by ~5-10%. Phil stating console sales aren't their determining metric but nonetheless working hard to improve them anyways isn't contradictory. To act as if you don't understand why console and game sales aren't truly reflective of whether Xbox is successful or not is disingenuous.
I agree with you, it might be a bit jarring.
But I guess we'll have to wait and see if it works once we experience it ourselves.
This game is going completely under the radar. It is apparently really popular in Korea and Remedy is making the single player portion. This may be a sleeper hit for. Microsoft.
We'll see, I thought it was done pretty well in the trailer. Still, it's an interesting choice, as it means we'll only witness events in the immediate vicinity of Master Chief.
There was never a June event. It was tweeted that there would be info but not in the forn of an Inside Xbox. I think we are seeing it now in the form of the Jason Ronald getting out there about Smart Delivery, etc.
But you still have two SKUs. Why make two? So you can offer those consoles for different price points. One for those who want next gen experience, but dont wanna pay so much and another one for those who can and want premium product with premium price.
Lockhart is going to be cheaper than PS5, Series X doesn't need to. And frankly i dont understand why people even bother to speculate price and feel need be concerned about those prices. Let Phil and Microsoft be the ones? You are customer and you are going to buy that console anyway. I would understand that concern If it was "I hope it isn't too expensive" type stuff.
Really excited for Remedy doing a FPS singleplayer.
Will definitely be checking Crossfire X out.
Will definitely be checking Crossfire X out.
I wouldnt expect Lockhart before we see games and a price of Series X is announced.
As it relates to the Xbox next gen launch and consumers comparing the available games, the news today directly from Sony that the Horizon sequel is coming in TBD 2021 (could easily slip into the following year IMO based on previous game delays and such) is a big deal for Xbox. I think that most assumed it wasn't going to be there at launch without a target date for the reveal, but there was part of me that thought they may surprise people and have it ready for holiday. This really opens up the floor big time for Halo Infinite to shine as the hands down premiere launch title, and I think that the July event could have some people pretty surprised at how incredible and "next gen" it does look running on Xbox Series X hardware.
There was never any chance that Horizon 2 was coming at launch. Spider-Man Miles Morales is clearly Sony's big launch title that will be up against Halo.
Logically you are correct, but until they provided confirmation it was not a sure thing. So Spider-Man may be a cool game that will excite a lot of people to play, but Horizon was the one with the massive scope to truly try punching with Halo Infinite at launch.
I think Spider-Man will punch just fine with Halo at launch. The first Spider-Man was Sony's biggest exclusive ever. I realize it's not a full Spider-Man 2 sequel, but it will still be massive for Sony.
So I guess I'll spent the next 4-5 yrs with CFX like I did with CrossFire
Yeah Spiderman will be fine. I suspect Sony was very eager to get the game out for launch.
I dont understand your logic. Spider-man is sonys fastest selling exclusive and while HZD sold extremely well, it didn't come close to Spider-Man.
So why would Horizon be bigger than Spider-Man? Horizon was never coming to launch...
Order through Microsoft themselves when they go live - my One X arrived a day early.
I've seen some places are taking 'expressions of interest' on pre-orders, so basically they're taking pre-orders already with no price or date lol
I have my PS5 pre order like this. It is pretty common and it has 999€ placeholder price. You ofc dont need to pay it and you will pay the right Price when they announce it.
Grounded seems to be a hit so far, will not be surprised if Obsidian gets more people to work on it.
I think we're mostly on the same page though having a "lower end" SKU shouldn't prevent the "premium" SKU from being competitively priced as well. Series X doesn't need to undercut the PS5, but its something that should be considered if its within reason - that's just common logic. Ultimately you're right about debating prices right now, it's something we can't reasonably project without the real information. As Phil's mentioned even small pricing decisions have long lasting effects for each console, they won't cut off their nose to spite their face. And again you're right, whether the Series X is $399, $449, or $499+ - I'm going to buy it. That said, price will be important to the undecided buyers - its just not really something worth arguing about on these forums until the true values of each SKU can be compared.
How many people in this thread are actually planning to buy Series S over Series X (assuming both are real, at $300 and $500, respectively)?
100% agree with you.
Series S here. Gamepass machine. Can play those exclusives and maybe some 3rd party games on gamepass.
I think after really great show is good to Mic Drop with aggressive price + Pre Orders (October)
As I'm sure you've noticed these cycles have gotten shorter and shorter over the years... The Switch launched less than 50 days after announcing its price, and they weren't even really competing with anyone. Depending on when they are actually planning to release, we could be waiting until well into August.
I was thinking of MS. Only ever done it for controllers etc. Of all the people, they must be good!
A couple of you guys are just unreal that you even spend time in this Xbox OT thread. I can't imagine that I would find any "joy" in frequenting the Sony OT thread just to leap at anything being said that I thought sounded too pro Sony or something, just unbelievable honestly :)
Was thinking the same. Have a fire show and close it with a mic drop price announcement. Would be brilliant.
Series X for me all the way. I need all that power in my life.
Lmao. It was you who started speaking about Horizon and Spider-Man and like i said earlier, it is you who constantly feel need to bash Sony so you can bring Xbox up. You can be excited, happy and hyped about Xbox without bringing Sony to discussion and bash them.
And even today i have posted many positive posts about Xbox etc. It is time to look in mirror dude.
Edit: I have also defended Microsoft numerous times in Sony OT when people do similar stuff there than you are doing all the time here.
Series X for me, Series S as a gift for my nephew who plays on a bedroom
Initially I had no plans to get either as I was having financially issues due to work messing things up with my benefits package. I also had no plans to get Series S eitherway.
Thanks to CERB though I may be able to get a Series X at or near launch. If they announce a Day One Halo edition though I will be pre-ordering for sure.
I alway
But yeah normally Microsoft store is the way to go, shipping is fast (and free).
Got my 2TB Xbox One S on time but my Xbox One X got lost in the mail (Scorpio Edition) and by the time they determined it was really lost/stolen they couldn't sent it to me anymore as they were out of Acorpio Edition units, had to get the normal one.
But yeah normally Microsoft store is the way to go, shipping is fast (and free).
By making some people unhappy and saying i'm creating drama when they're the one(see how many "Microsoft didn't do new ip/sequel blah blah blah" thread in past 2 days)?
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