I'm just not seeing the appeal of making your game purposely look like it's on low graphics settings.
People are nostalgic for 3D platformer gameplay, not hideous looking pieces of shit.
Yooka-Laylee's 64-Bit Tonic First Look( Update: New video)
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People are nostalgic for 3D platformer gameplay, not hideous looking pieces of shit.
YL was a kick started game, people actually wanted the N64 graphics, if i recall correctly it was a stretch goal. There was demand for this.
A true 1:1 N64 filter is impossible without re-modelling and re-rigging the entire game, so they're trying to make the filter look as low poly as possible without the need to redo everything.
Call me crazy but I still think BK has a nice look to it, especially for its generation.
This is the most dissapointing kickstarter for me ever and this stupid picture is an insult to fans. Playtonic more like Scamtonic
Other developers should follow suit, say Square with PS1 modes for their games:
Gotta say I love rocking the ps1 version of snake in Ground zeroes or the N64 Mario costume in Odessey. I would play a potatoe Ps1 Edition of FFXV
You all realize it was always going to be a simple filter/shader right? They weren't going to demake the entire game.
It was a stretch goal during the campaign. I'm confused at why people are confused... and it's not that serious. The hyperbole for a bonus shader is a whole new level of overreaction...
It was a stretch goal during the campaign. I'm confused at why people are confused... and it's not that serious. The hyperbole for a bonus shader is a whole new level of overreaction...
Accurate draw distance. The original screenshot's draw distance is just too good, and so is the polycount, lighting, and complexity in general. Not angular enough, not simple enough. That's what makes it look PS2.Yeah, man, I dunno. When I try to picture N64 Yooka-Laylee, it's more like this:
it turns out nostalgia isn't something that only exists for a short period every five years when it's time to review the latest Belda game
I'm confused as to why they would try to pass this off as a 64 style demake at all instead of just creating new low poly models for Yooka and Laylee like Ground Zeroes or Odyssey or Snake Pass or ...
It would be less work (an assumption, considering how long this has taken) and look more faithful, something actually worth the effort.
Other developers should follow suit, say Square with PS1 modes for their games:
But like... even if that was the case, this is a shitty job of making it actually look like an N64 game. I'm sure there are better filters you could do than this.
It's not done yet, perhaps they'll look at the criticisms and tweak it, but it'd be better if they hadn't have to read too much vitriol for something so trivial.
There's people that want 64 or PSX(PS1) style graphic and I'm one of them, sadly YL's "64" doesn't look like an N64 game.
What else do they have to do besides work on the stretch goal that people were promised? Do they have any other games announced or in development?
Looks more like a PS2/Xbox render than N64 render.
The draw distance, lighting, and even the amount of polygons in the models don't really invoke N64/ PS1 era graphics.
Edit: It's a work in progress so it can improve, but as of now artistically, it doesn't feel much like a 64 bit mode.
The draw distance, lighting, and even the amount of polygons in the models don't really invoke N64/ PS1 era graphics.
Edit: It's a work in progress so it can improve, but as of now artistically, it doesn't feel much like a 64 bit mode.
That's not a reasonable take. Something like this isn't really worth the developers' time regardless of what other projects Playtonic has in the works. It's hardly going to result in more sales of the game. If they aren't working on a new game then they'd probably be better served doing contract work or something, so they can actually get paid. They're doing this because they need to fulfill those stretch goals. It'd be bad PR to renege on them.
i don't know, you're right that it's the right thing to do it so they can deliver on a promise they made to backers, but it still feels like effort put into something not many would care about (not to mention it doesn't even look like what they promised). i doubt many backers would be angry of they said hey guys, we tried but it doesn't look good so we're not doing it.
Yeah not sure how someone could play or just see a N64 game and think this looks like that. Maybe the grass I guess, and kinda some of the rocks, but this hardly looks like a 64 game overall.
I can't imagine the team going to the lengths of creating simplified, blocky-ass N64-style models to swap in for every asset in the game. That's just insane to think about.
And yet some people are all over 8-bit and 16-bit inspired games
Ah yes, backers would definitely be really happy if one of the stretch goals isn't delivered because they just couldn't do it, no one would be angry.
LAZY
So easy to type, and it sums everything up with little-to-no effort.
it looks like a ps2 game if said ps2 game was rendered at the lowest settings lmao. Not at all what I had in mind when it came to making it look like an n64 game, shit isnt even blocky.
I like the idea, but the execution here is just terrible.
Others have said it, but it looks like a blurry PC game on low settings. If they actually want to capture the feel of an N64 game, they'd actually have to use new models, which'd require a ton of work.
Others have said it, but it looks like a blurry PC game on low settings. If they actually want to capture the feel of an N64 game, they'd actually have to use new models, which'd require a ton of work.
In any job, if someone is working on a project, and they are accused of wasting time by working on it, "What else are they supposed to be doing" is an absolutely reasonable question to ask. They can't be wasting time if there's nothing else for them to be working on, the very idea suggests they have something else they should be doing instead. So on one hand they have a project they said they would complete, on the other hand we have the mystery of what else they could be doing. That's why I asked what I asked. Do you think they're turning down jobs to finish this filter? Do you think the entire staff of Playtonic are working on this? If the answer to either of those is "Yes" then Playtonic really need to figure some stuff out. Like... I can't imagine more than a couple people are working on this (especially given how long it's taken to come out) right!?
I don't know if you thought I was being smug but I was genuinely asking if they have other projects they're working on. I haven't really kept up with them, been waiting for the physical version of Yooka-Laylee to finally come out on Switch so I can play it -__-
I don't disagree with you! If they have other stuff that's more important or if they're for some inexplicable reason devoting more manpower to this than they need to I'd also suggest trying to find a graceful way to bail on it. Though as PlayBee points out, it would probably create bad PR. Especially if it's like "Hey we're gonna bail on this feature we promised, we have to work on another game, so totally buy that when it comes out! Please trust us!"
But again my question of "What else are they working on?" was genuine, have they announced anything at all? Or for all we know is it literally just finishing the backer goals and then... nothing?
As I saw the picture, this was my very first question.
It seems 'neat' for the novelty of it...but sort of a waste of time.
If it actually looked like an N64 game, I'd want it for the experience of playing a modern game that feels just like playing an N64 game.
same, lol
I appreciate the idea tho and will probably mess around with that mode
They could make lower poly versions of the main characters by hand and lower the poly count on the geometry by interpolation. For the game I make currently, I used Sculptris to make character models and then automatically reduced the polygon number. Automatically reducing polycount works pretty well. The N64 look need not be perfect, but it should at least have some semblance of an N64 game.
Disregarding that it was my number two game last year, so I disagree on the quality assessment, I think it is completely unfair to state its game design is lazy.
As it is, it looks nothing like n64. As others have already noticed, it looks like ps2.
These dudes gotta abuse that blinn shader on literally everything, throw in some flat grey distance fog and completely turn off any form of bloom. And then put a -1 modifier on their LoD system so that every 3d model is one stage lower poly than usual.
These dudes gotta abuse that blinn shader on literally everything, throw in some flat grey distance fog and completely turn off any form of bloom. And then put a -1 modifier on their LoD system so that every 3d model is one stage lower poly than usual.
When they look good sure. Celeste and Bloodstained CotM are old school without looking like a mess.