I wouldn't blame you if you subbed out really
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Mini Mafia VII: Nightless Mafia |OT| Oops, All Day Phase
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==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start
MrHedin (5 votes)
TheChuggernaut - #49 #99
Fireblend - #92
Alexem - #162
Sawneeks - #242
Donniewahlberg - #289
Funky Dude Sparks - #301
Zippedpinhead (3 votes)
MrHedin - #98
TheChuggernaut - #99
Donniewahlberg - #102 #289
nin - #189 #251
HPSauce - #246
TheChuggernaut (2 votes)
nin - #263
Zippedpinhead - #264
Funky Dude Sparks (1 votes)
Melonrabbit - #148
Sawneeks (0 votes)
Funky Dude Sparks - #203 #301
Melonrabbit (0 votes)
Zippedpinhead - #171 #264
Post Counts:
Melonrabbit: 50 nin: 38 Fireblend: 38 Funky Dude Sparks: 36 Donniewahlberg: 26 TheChuggernaut: 26 Sawneeks: 24 Alexem: 22 MrHedin: 21 Zippedpinhead: 21 HPSauce: 15
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Day Start
MrHedin (5 votes)
Fireblend - #92
Alexem - #162
Sawneeks - #242
Donniewahlberg - #289
Funky Dude Sparks - #301
Zippedpinhead (3 votes)
MrHedin - #98
TheChuggernaut - #99
HPSauce - #246
TheChuggernaut (2 votes)
nin - #263
Zippedpinhead - #264
Funky Dude Sparks (1 votes)
Melonrabbit - #148
Sawneeks (0 votes)
Melonrabbit (0 votes)
Post Counts:
Melonrabbit: 50 nin: 38 Fireblend: 38 Funky Dude Sparks: 36 Donniewahlberg: 26 TheChuggernaut: 26 Sawneeks: 24 Alexem: 22 MrHedin: 21 Zippedpinhead: 21 HPSauce: 15
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you were, yeah, but now you're sticking on him because he sheeped sparks voted you. that doesnt say OMGUS?
and i'll go over all his posts in a bit but i wasnt seeing scum.
i say fuck the math and shoot who you want to hit and just go for it.
but y
I also don't think it's OMGUS to scum read someone scum reading you if the read they're making on you is wack. Hell it was like the basis of my Monkey scum read in Nier
ahem
theorizes it's either someone who was here and ghosts the thread OR it's someone who isn't here and won't be for a while. pretty big list. does come back around to saying that the people who were around during the kill (Hedin, Alexem, Donnie, Febe, or HP) would be a good place to start narrowing down since you'd have to be online to submit the kill and why not be in thread? tenuous reason but you can see him trying to wrangle with the info as it happens.
does end up backing down from the positions in two posts when people point out there would be too many reasons for scum to do W, X, Y, or Z and it's too much openness.
adopts an adorable puppy and then gets mad people are scumreading him for trying to solve the game with a death.
calls out chuggs and melon for vilifying him (not hedin?) and dislikes HP and nin for not being around. coin flip picks melon in that grouping to vote.
clarifies again that the chuggs/melon vote is because he dislikes how they both felt disengenuous with their read of him. reeks of OMGUS. moves vote to chuggs.
clarifies he would shoot chuggs personally but is OK with hedin if the group wants it.
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yeah, no, still not super seeing scum here. his opening really wasn't that damning and I don't see how that makes him scum when others have either said nothing about it (HP) or did the same and got away fine. the remaining posts read to me like someone who isn't fully reading the thread and is just posting what he can. true, there isn't a lot of solving going on in the later posts and it's very OMGUS but that's just not screaming scum to me either. it feels like town who doesnt have time since he followed what sparks kept saying repeatedly. Sparks did spend A LOT of posts saying it was chuggs and melon.
the problem there is his read against you isn't wrong or wack unlike moneky's in nier lol. that early vote you did was sus as fuck
Who else made speculation about who was it that did the kill to the degree Zipped did.
Even your points looks scummy to me about him. He backs down from his idea, but then just starts scum reading people who were suss of him early on even though he knows it was a bad thought? The whole Sparks thing just reeks of someone trying to find the thread narrative and placing a lazy vote there
to the degree zipped did? only zipped. but at least half of them were responses to people questioning him whereas the others didn't get questions.
for the second it's agree to disagree i guess. i really dont think scum would be that obvious and zipped plays better than that.
Except you fucked up that post by saying I would vote off Zipped instead of saying I was scum read melon and you because of your votes for him Which that vote train was wrong it wasn't melon and you it was hedin and you
Would you be amazed I re read that first page and came to the conclusion I was wrong to single out melon I was amazed myself
ah okay, gotcha.
if we're wrong and hedin is town who do you think he should shoot?
I asked several times was u got such a strong impression of me attacking ur theory. Its been in each and every one of my replies to u not sure how you're missing them.
melon is scum even when melon isn't there.
lemme do a reread i lack any impression on hedin
I still feel that it would be best to resolve the Zipped/Hedin impasse today one way or the other. I still feel better about Zipped than I do about Hedin, but I wouldn't object to a Zipped info flip if it gets us somewhere.
Should we make a mistake, then while I would personally be inclined for the one voted out to vig the other, that's purely my take - if both are town, that gets us nowhere fast. I'd be against polling to pre-determine who should get vengeful-vigged, though - I would rather have a known town player make their own choice in good faith than potentially get steered into a second mis-kill by scum.
Should we make a mistake, then while I would personally be inclined for the one voted out to vig the other, that's purely my take - if both are town, that gets us nowhere fast. I'd be against polling to pre-determine who should get vengeful-vigged, though - I would rather have a known town player make their own choice in good faith than potentially get steered into a second mis-kill by scum.
Day 1 postings continued
#208 - longish Sneeks post, would look at Alexem if Sparks flips scum, brief talk about logic in regards to Sparks and his hypothetical shot if he was to be flipped
#226 - Alexem doesn't want to flip Sparks 'I don't think 'let's whack him and see what he does' is a very good reason to take him out at this point.'
#235 - HP would vote Zipped at this point in time
#240-243 - Longish sneeks posts in regards to a bunch of things, votes for Hedin
#244 - Donnie post in regards to his vote and what he'd do if Zipped flipped Town
#246 - HP votes for Zipped
#249 - More detailed Donnie post in regards to what he'd do if Zipped flipped Town, says he'd look at Hedin, Chuggs and Melon
#251 - Nin unvotes says town benefits from a stalemate
#257 - Response to #251 - Fireblend disagrees with Nin
#258 - Response to #251 - Hedin also disagrees
#260 - Nin says town can wait for Scum to get antsy
#261 - Alexem also disagrees with Nin
#262 - Fireblend says Nin's idea could be an attempt to coast
#263 - Nin votes for Chuggs
#264 - Zipped votes for Chuggs
#265 - Hedin says if he moves his vote it would be to Sneeks rather than Chuggs
#267 - Hedin elaborates on his reasoning for considering Sneeks
#272 - 276 - Donnie and Melon back and forth
#283 - Fireblend would be okay with flipping Zipped
#285 - Sneeks asks if we should pick who the dead player shoots as a group, would begrudgingly accept a Zipped vote to move things forward
#289 - Donnie moves his vote to Hedin
#290 - Hedin claims he wouldn't shoot if he was voted out
#293 - Chuggs explains case on Zipped
#295 - Fireblend asks if anyone else wouldn't shoot if they were to be voted out
#298 - First HP summary post
#301 - Sparks votes for Hedin
#307 - Sneeks reread post on Zipped, not seeing him as scum
#309 - Chuggs response to #307 - Thinks Sneeks defence of Zipped is scummy (?)
#322 - Alexem thinks we should resolve the Zipped/Hedin situation today, thinks if we hit town the one that dies should shoot the other
If I missed anything anyone thinks is important I apologise, will post some reads in a bit
#208 - longish Sneeks post, would look at Alexem if Sparks flips scum, brief talk about logic in regards to Sparks and his hypothetical shot if he was to be flipped
#226 - Alexem doesn't want to flip Sparks 'I don't think 'let's whack him and see what he does' is a very good reason to take him out at this point.'
#235 - HP would vote Zipped at this point in time
#240-243 - Longish sneeks posts in regards to a bunch of things, votes for Hedin
#244 - Donnie post in regards to his vote and what he'd do if Zipped flipped Town
#246 - HP votes for Zipped
#249 - More detailed Donnie post in regards to what he'd do if Zipped flipped Town, says he'd look at Hedin, Chuggs and Melon
#251 - Nin unvotes says town benefits from a stalemate
#257 - Response to #251 - Fireblend disagrees with Nin
#258 - Response to #251 - Hedin also disagrees
#260 - Nin says town can wait for Scum to get antsy
#261 - Alexem also disagrees with Nin
#262 - Fireblend says Nin's idea could be an attempt to coast
#263 - Nin votes for Chuggs
#264 - Zipped votes for Chuggs
#265 - Hedin says if he moves his vote it would be to Sneeks rather than Chuggs
#267 - Hedin elaborates on his reasoning for considering Sneeks
#272 - 276 - Donnie and Melon back and forth
#283 - Fireblend would be okay with flipping Zipped
#285 - Sneeks asks if we should pick who the dead player shoots as a group, would begrudgingly accept a Zipped vote to move things forward
#289 - Donnie moves his vote to Hedin
#290 - Hedin claims he wouldn't shoot if he was voted out
#293 - Chuggs explains case on Zipped
#295 - Fireblend asks if anyone else wouldn't shoot if they were to be voted out
#298 - First HP summary post
#301 - Sparks votes for Hedin
#307 - Sneeks reread post on Zipped, not seeing him as scum
#309 - Chuggs response to #307 - Thinks Sneeks defence of Zipped is scummy (?)
#322 - Alexem thinks we should resolve the Zipped/Hedin situation today, thinks if we hit town the one that dies should shoot the other
If I missed anything anyone thinks is important I apologise, will post some reads in a bit
Sneeks solicited people sitting on Zipped on whether we could get past the stalemate by moving to Hedin, this was my rumination on it before moving:
I was kind of hoping when I woke up there would have been more movement during the night to make the move worth it but right now it doesn't seem to have made much difference. Really I'm just trying to be reasonable to the group.
I felt like Zipped was trying to influence the reaction with his posts after ATP's death. Since then he's done nothing to change my read on him. I don't see anything in Hedin's posts that make me think he is scummy. I don't feel particularly great about Nin, Sneeks, Melon and Chuggs too but that's all irrelevant right now really. It's one or the other and the people that are sitting on other votes need to make a decision really.
At this point I think both Zipped and Hedin are good choices and I really want the day to end lol.
So I agree we have to move on and that at this point we've all pretty much circled between Zipped and Hedin. To an extent, we could try either since getting a result on one is going to help inform on the other. I'm relatively open to getting that over the line in Hedin.
What bothers me somewhat is we need 6 for majority, correct? By my count, we've been one off majority wihen Sparks voted 13 hours ago and all Zipped had to do was move his vote from Chuggs to Hedin to keep himself in the game and remove the person who started the questioning on him...but hasn't? Gong back and looking, he interacts with Hedin in the first half hour of the game over the Chuggs meme vote then never once interacts with him again. He floats that he could vote Hedin or venge kill him if it's what everyone else wants but it just seems a bit odd to never address that directly or take the opening to save himself. I'd kind of like to see that addressed before we go over the line for day one, which is why I've unset my vote for now.
What bothers me somewhat is we need 6 for majority, correct? By my count, we've been one off majority wihen Sparks voted 13 hours ago and all Zipped had to do was move his vote from Chuggs to Hedin to keep himself in the game and remove the person who started the questioning on him...but hasn't? Gong back and looking, he interacts with Hedin in the first half hour of the game over the Chuggs meme vote then never once interacts with him again. He floats that he could vote Hedin or venge kill him if it's what everyone else wants but it just seems a bit odd to never address that directly or take the opening to save himself. I'd kind of like to see that addressed before we go over the line for day one, which is why I've unset my vote for now.
I was finding it somewhat interesting that I was 1 away from majority for over 12 hours and no one hammered (I thought about it myself just to move things along but town wouldn't have gotten the full info from that). EIther scum was afraid to put the hammer down or they were already mostly on me.
Oh I've had it in my head majority is 7 this whole time lol. You're right, that's a good point.
It's the day that never ends. Yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started playing it not knowing what it was and they'll continue playing it forever just because its the day that never ends...
the path is salvation is either hedin or zipped?
over the course of this longest day zipp's looping arguments and general avoidance on clarification has become increasingly more frustrating for what purpose idk. But not a v team building-y. i can no longer trust we are working toward the same goals.
over the course of this longest day zipp's looping arguments and general avoidance on clarification has become increasingly more frustrating for what purpose idk. But not a v team building-y. i can no longer trust we are working toward the same goals.
