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Mini Mafia VII: Nightless Mafia |OT| Oops, All Day Phase
- Thread starter Natiko
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==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start
Zippedpinhead (6 votes)
MrHedin - #98
TheChuggernaut - #99
Donniewahlberg - #102 #289
nin - #189 #251
HPSauce - #246
Sawneeks - #348
Melonrabbit - #350
Donniewahlberg - #354
MrHedin (3 votes)
TheChuggernaut - #49 #99
Fireblend - #92
Alexem - #162
Sawneeks - #242 #348
Donniewahlberg - #289 #335
Funky Dude Sparks - #301
TheChuggernaut (2 votes)
nin - #263
Zippedpinhead - #264
Funky Dude Sparks (0 votes)
Melonrabbit - #148 #350
Sawneeks (0 votes)
Funky Dude Sparks - #203 #301
Melonrabbit (0 votes)
Zippedpinhead - #171 #264
Post Counts:
Melonrabbit: 61 Sawneeks: 50 Funky Dude Sparks: 45 Fireblend: 44 Donniewahlberg: 41 nin: 40 TheChuggernaut: 32 HPSauce: 31 MrHedin: 29 Alexem: 26 Zippedpinhead: 21
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Day Start
Zippedpinhead (6 votes)
MrHedin - #98
TheChuggernaut - #99
HPSauce - #246
Sawneeks - #348
Melonrabbit - #350
Donniewahlberg - #354
MrHedin (3 votes)
Fireblend - #92
Alexem - #162
Funky Dude Sparks - #301
TheChuggernaut (2 votes)
nin - #263
Zippedpinhead - #264
Funky Dude Sparks (0 votes)
Sawneeks (0 votes)
Melonrabbit (0 votes)
Post Counts:
Melonrabbit: 61 Sawneeks: 50 Funky Dude Sparks: 45 Fireblend: 44 Donniewahlberg: 41 nin: 40 TheChuggernaut: 32 HPSauce: 31 MrHedin: 29 Alexem: 26 Zippedpinhead: 21
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Day 1 Ends/Day 2 Begins
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The Sun Sons would not take this threat to their eternal sunshine lightly. After much deliberation, they circled in on Zipped.
Zippedpinhead has died!
DAY 2 BEGINS
Day Ends by Majority Only
Majority is 6
Vote Tool:
https://vote.fireblend.com/510231/#
Players Remaining:
MrHedin
Sawneeks
Fireblend
Alexem
HPSauce
TheChuggernaut
Funky Dude Sparks
melonrabbit
Donniewahlberg
nin
Zippedpinhead has died!
DAY 2 BEGINS
Day Ends by Majority Only
Majority is 6
Vote Tool:
https://vote.fireblend.com/510231/#
Players Remaining:
MrHedin
Sawneeks
Fireblend
Alexem
HPSauce
TheChuggernaut
Funky Dude Sparks
melonrabbit
Donniewahlberg
nin
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Vote: nin
jusr by going over the votes and seeing his weird swerve to zipped, backs off on to chuggs, and even comments again about how long the day is but doesnt shift back to zipped.
this also clears hedin pretty well unless they bussed hardcore but im not that paranoid yet. chuggs too.
would also vote sparks for his complete defense of zipped and ignoring that vote.
jusr by going over the votes and seeing his weird swerve to zipped, backs off on to chuggs, and even comments again about how long the day is but doesnt shift back to zipped.
this also clears hedin pretty well unless they bussed hardcore but im not that paranoid yet. chuggs too.
would also vote sparks for his complete defense of zipped and ignoring that vote.
Vote: FDS
Town does not come in and just say "shit" when they see that votes moved away from someone in a hammer position and back towards someone who ended up being scum. Also never even explained the vote against me.
Febe gets a little side eye from me currently as well.
Town does not come in and just say "shit" when they see that votes moved away from someone in a hammer position and back towards someone who ended up being scum. Also never even explained the vote against me.
Febe gets a little side eye from me currently as well.
Idk if im excited about flipping scum or it finally being day fucking two.
i expected nin's unvote to have more push back at the time, didnt
the reaction to ATP was the same.
the reaction to ATP was the same.
(I haven't actually read since my last post give me like 2 hours to come up with something more substantial)
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Nah, 10 players left so majority stays at 6. It only drops when shifting to an odd player count.
ty. as long as i don't have to do math majority can be whatever.
reread a bit up until page 4. Hedin/Chuggs both come out looking like solid town since they immediately went after Zipped and his narrative and didn't let it go. Would be shocked if they were scum.
Some notables from Zipped. He does paint the 'people who were here early' as a group to attack and vote out systemically and I'm unsure if a scum!zipped does that to all his teammates. It's possible that 1 person here is scum with him but it's unlikely there are 2. This soft-clears Alexem, HP, Febe, and Donnie. Hedin and Sparks come in later and are mentioned by zipped but that's also the post where he backs down from. WIFOM heavy but it's a thing.
one other notable i saw was this post from sparks that just sticks out. I remember it being odd at the time but figured it was sparks being sparks. however, with zipped now flipping scum i'd be willing to bet he mentions zipped/febe together and gives them 'the benefit of the doubt' because they are scumbuddies. if we flip sparks today and he is scum i'd say go for febe.
Some notables from Zipped. He does paint the 'people who were here early' as a group to attack and vote out systemically and I'm unsure if a scum!zipped does that to all his teammates. It's possible that 1 person here is scum with him but it's unlikely there are 2. This soft-clears Alexem, HP, Febe, and Donnie. Hedin and Sparks come in later and are mentioned by zipped but that's also the post where he backs down from. WIFOM heavy but it's a thing.
one other notable i saw was this post from sparks that just sticks out. I remember it being odd at the time but figured it was sparks being sparks. however, with zipped now flipping scum i'd be willing to bet he mentions zipped/febe together and gives them 'the benefit of the doubt' because they are scumbuddies. if we flip sparks today and he is scum i'd say go for febe.
Another post tying Febe - Sparks - Zipped together even though there are '3 people who are active and have no posts'
Febe also makes 3 posts throughout the day saying he can go for Zipped but never takes the initiative to vote there.
I will say nin also came in and defended Zipped indirectly by calling out those who voted against him, namely hedin/chuggs. The only thing that really gives nin some leway here are two things;
A) he votes for zipped and ties him with hedin. hell of a thing to do as a scummate
B) moves off of zipped and on to chuggs. immediately after that zipped follows him on to chuggs. scum buddies acting that openly to start another train? possible but unlikely.
I did find another instance of Sparks getting surprised/reactionary to people voting zipped.
HP also gets a good town clear for pushing zipped above hedin with this vote. at first i was unsure about him since he kept saying he'd vote zipped and never does but when he finally votes, it's a good push.
Vote: FDS
Sparks is scum go to Febe. If it's not Febe then I'd bet nin.
Febe also makes 3 posts throughout the day saying he can go for Zipped but never takes the initiative to vote there.
I will say nin also came in and defended Zipped indirectly by calling out those who voted against him, namely hedin/chuggs. The only thing that really gives nin some leway here are two things;
A) he votes for zipped and ties him with hedin. hell of a thing to do as a scummate
B) moves off of zipped and on to chuggs. immediately after that zipped follows him on to chuggs. scum buddies acting that openly to start another train? possible but unlikely.
MrHedin aswell as TheChuggernaut join forces to vote Zipped because...."Everything he's putting down just feels like pointless speculation"
I did find another instance of Sparks getting surprised/reactionary to people voting zipped.
HP also gets a good town clear for pushing zipped above hedin with this vote. at first i was unsure about him since he kept saying he'd vote zipped and never does but when he finally votes, it's a good push.
Vote: FDS
Sparks is scum go to Febe. If it's not Febe then I'd bet nin.
I'm very curious about why Hedin didn't get lunched when he was 1 vote away from reaching majority in the scenario that there was a second scum member off-train. I can maybe see Zipped being scared of becoming a suspect right away, but if that second off-train member existed I don't know what they were doing. Did they see Zipped as a lost cause? Hedin could be scum himself I guess.
That kinda makes me see nin in a better light.
I agree it makes the most sense to flip people on the Hedin train though, and Sparks is a good enough choice. He did seem to be defensive of Zipped.
That kinda makes me see nin in a better light.
I agree it makes the most sense to flip people on the Hedin train though, and Sparks is a good enough choice. He did seem to be defensive of Zipped.
After that, it's hard to deny that the Chuggs shading from yesterday looks shady. I'd also be OK with taking this opportunity to resolve the Sparks question, though with a couple of votes on him already I won't take him to the halfway mark before we've even had a chance to talk. In any rate, I could see him as being a scum partner keeping his distance (which would line up with Donnie's suggestion that there might have been two scum stirring the pot while the other stood back). I also note that, like Zipped, Sparks didn't post until after ATP was killed. To me, the case for a Sparks vote is stronger than it was yesterday.
If the Chuggs push was an attempt at taking votes away from Zipped then that could count against Nin, although Zipped might have tried to use an honest vote from Nin as a starting point. I'm feeling better about Chuggs and Melon now, and it seems like a push to think of Hedin and Zipped as scum partners trying to bus each other for clout - it's not impossible, but feels too risky to be realistic with such a small scum team. I think Donnie's takes on D1 were genuine, so I'd give him the benefit of the doubt for now, although a more un-charitable view might be that he could have swung back to Zipped for credibility - given that his first vote was for Zipped, though, I think that's nothing more than WIFOM talking.
Not sure what to make of Febe - I've not felt any major warning signs from him, but I could consider him as one to watch depending on how things turn out. (For me, the question would be if I fell for a trap in voting for Hedin, though I was mistaken in thinking that the run of votes for Zipped looked dubious.) As it stands, though, I don't have much aside from the Hedin vote against him. That would leave Saw and HP, both of whom could go either way for me. I was a little uncertain of HP earlier on in D1, but that was more of a gut feeling than anything concrete - not enough to base any serious accusations on.
If the Chuggs push was an attempt at taking votes away from Zipped then that could count against Nin, although Zipped might have tried to use an honest vote from Nin as a starting point. I'm feeling better about Chuggs and Melon now, and it seems like a push to think of Hedin and Zipped as scum partners trying to bus each other for clout - it's not impossible, but feels too risky to be realistic with such a small scum team. I think Donnie's takes on D1 were genuine, so I'd give him the benefit of the doubt for now, although a more un-charitable view might be that he could have swung back to Zipped for credibility - given that his first vote was for Zipped, though, I think that's nothing more than WIFOM talking.
Not sure what to make of Febe - I've not felt any major warning signs from him, but I could consider him as one to watch depending on how things turn out. (For me, the question would be if I fell for a trap in voting for Hedin, though I was mistaken in thinking that the run of votes for Zipped looked dubious.) As it stands, though, I don't have much aside from the Hedin vote against him. That would leave Saw and HP, both of whom could go either way for me. I was a little uncertain of HP earlier on in D1, but that was more of a gut feeling than anything concrete - not enough to base any serious accusations on.
Oh. Ohhhhhh.
Zipped was indeed scum.
Ehm yeah does not make me look that good in hindsight. Well, i really thought it was chuggs and hedin going after poor zipped.
Am I correct in assuming that there won't be another kill after a vote, since that only applies to town players and only on D1?
Furthermore let me state that with zipped gone i will or would also go after FDS.
Want for have my thoughts put down first though
Zipped was indeed scum.
Ehm yeah does not make me look that good in hindsight. Well, i really thought it was chuggs and hedin going after poor zipped.
Am I correct in assuming that there won't be another kill after a vote, since that only applies to town players and only on D1?
Furthermore let me state that with zipped gone i will or would also go after FDS.
Want for have my thoughts put down first though
MrHedin dies
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I'll take that. I honestly feel vindicated by the result, I only switched to Hedin in an attempt to be pragmatic and benefit town to move on. The switch had caveats and I pulled my Hedin vote as soon as I noticed the oddity with the numbers. I feel like I was on track with Zipped from very early on, however I think it's prudent to come into day two with an open mind on everyone again even as we begin to draft up our list of reads and to that end, I'm totally okay with being under any level of scrutiny.
I've been going over the day one posting and various lists I had made as we went, and Zipped being scum does immediately lead to looking at Sparks, I think it would be hard for anyone to deny that. He's in a tough spot now and I'm interested in his thoughts. I do think the result makes Chuggs, Melon and Hedin look pretty good.
I'm still wondering about the fact scum had the Hedin vote one off with a scum off train for over half a day and didn't act. It seems like the scum team agreed Zipps would focus on Chuggs or Melon all day to the end, staying on the Chuggs vote to lay the ground work and staying clean of the Hedin vote regardless of the situation. He never once engages Hedin all of Day one after Hedin votes for him and the Hedin train builds. If Sparks is scum, Sparks...pretty much just goes after Chuggs and Melon too, similarly narrowing the focus to Chuggs as he goes. So my guess (unless Sparks isn't scum and just went after them because) is those two were working the Chuggs while the third member was pushing the Hedin train and Sparks was asked to switch vote later because the Hedin thread was going well but not to say anything or rock the boat. I would be looking for someone who came in and painted Hedin's take as WIFOM and picked at him over time, maybe a little later because they have two shot kill and want to play safer.
The only other thing I could extrapolate as a possible solution from the vote anomaly is Hedin was bussed but that just seems unlikely with the way it played out. Not impossible but hard to believe the way it played out.
There's where I'm at so far. Still digesting a lot.
Welp, I backed the wrong horse alright. So is that because he voted for Sparks, because they wanted to make the Hedin voters like, erm, me look shiftier, or just because it would stir things up? Probably the latter, so I'm putting the wine away.
"But it's so simple!"
"But it's so simple!"
My immediate thought is Sparks might have had the two shot kill then lol why use it up so fast again unless there was a risk in losing it.
RIP Hedin. that kill doesn't surprise me given he was pretty clearly town after all that.
Vote: FDS
Vote: FDS
how does this make melon look better?
That generally goes in with Chuggs in my eyes, in that Zipped went back and forth with them early (as did Sparks actually) and eventually focused on Chuggs. My guess is scum team were deciding between the two who might be the weaker link/easier to build momentum against.
Given the amount of town cred Hedin got, scum may also have wanted to silence him before people started following his suggestions if he was on to something.
Voting for Zipped and sticking with it helps, and advocating looking into Sparks sounds a lot better in hindsight than it did to me at the time. There's also Zipped's vote for her, although their votes could theoretically be distancing - I'm not sure if I buy that at the moment, though.
Fair point on zipped voting for her as well as chuggs.
Alexem she voted for zipped really close to day end so she didn't exactly stick to it lol. She mostly gave zipped grief for tying her and chuggs together after sparks first mentioned it.
Oh cool I was right. Sparks and FeBe are the people I'm side eyeing the hardest right now. Have more to say later, but I'm dropping this here
FDS
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==== DAY 2.5 VOTES ====
Day Start
Funky Dude Sparks (3 votes)
Alexem - #385
Sawneeks - #387
TheChuggernaut - #395
Not voting: Fireblend, Melonrabbit, Funky Dude Sparks, Donniewahlberg, nin, HPSauce
Post Counts:
Alexem: 4 Donniewahlberg: 3 Sawneeks: 2 TheChuggernaut: 2 HPSauce: 1 Fireblend: 1
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Day Start
Funky Dude Sparks (3 votes)
Alexem - #385
Sawneeks - #387
TheChuggernaut - #395
Not voting: Fireblend, Melonrabbit, Funky Dude Sparks, Donniewahlberg, nin, HPSauce
Post Counts:
Alexem: 4 Donniewahlberg: 3 Sawneeks: 2 TheChuggernaut: 2 HPSauce: 1 Fireblend: 1
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I've really only held off because I'm genuinely curious what Sparks has to say about all of this lol especially their reaction before Zipped went down.
