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Thisman

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Oct 25, 2017
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I even looked for and inserted a lengthy, older post of mine to make my position clear. If you cant even be bothered to read that and actually take part in the discussion, instead just coming up with bullshit to attack others, then leave nd stop inserting yourself into the discussion.

Are you trying to moderate me? The fact is his posts became mainstream and Disney fired him. It's over.

Also , who finds the tweets doesn't matter if they were not mainstream and were made mainstream and were disgusting, the author does have to deal with consequences, content matters , not who finds it
 

Deleted member 1635

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I have some bad news for you guys. Theracist, rape-apologist, Pizzagate instigators of the campaign to get Gunn fired, Mike Cernovich and his Alt-Right followers are already very busy on Twitter, right now, to apply EXACTLY this tactic to Patton Oswalt, Sarah Silverman and others. This is their schtick. And you are falling for it.

No, I'm really not falling for anything and this whole narrative that emerged since yesterday over this is irritating.

Stop acting like the alt-right goons are pulling one over on people just because they exposed something. If there's nothing to expose, these tactics do not work.
 

broncobuster

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Oct 26, 2017
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Someone should warn Jimmy Kimmel.

They already tried this with Jimmy Kimmel. Several times, I think. There was a petition to boycott Kimmel that had something like 200,000 signatures. They even got the dummy Sean Hannity in on it.

Honestly they should just replace him with a woman or person of color just to complete this alt-right monkey paw wish.

That'd be a great outcome. Get Dee Rees on the phone.
 

Gundam

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Oct 25, 2017
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These aren't false claims. He made those post and they were disgusting.

Now look at my post up there. If you want to actually do something stop buying marvel's shit

As of right now, your avatar is a literal advertisement for one of marvel's toys and characters.

If you guy's are truly angered by this, hit Disney where it hurts.

Skip the Marvel movies, star wars movies etc.

This petition will do nothing.

But you'll sleep easier at night knowing you haven't given money to the corporation who bent to the will of the alt-right.

who am I kidding. You'll all be there for the next guardians movie after the first trailer drops.

Truths
 

Yams

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Oct 25, 2017
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ZattMurdock in two weeks, if Gunn isn't back, will you boycott all Marvel products?

I'm 100% questioning your conviction btw. i think you're making a big stank because it's easy to talk on a forum. I do not believe you're willing to stand up for anything you supposedly believe in if it means missing out on your dumb kiddy movies.
 

Deleted member 1635

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If you had asked me before this all blew up I'd have told you that we all know about Gunn too. It wasn't exactly a secret.

So you were fully aware of these tweets that, to most of us, seemingly just got "unearthed?" All of the articles people are linking to from a few years ago certainly did not mention these particular, much nastier, tweets and posts.
 

MrConbon210

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Oct 31, 2017
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Nah, I'll pass. Petitions like this are laughable anyways and never work. If Disney wants him back (which they definitely will not be doing) the petition isn't going to do jack shit.
 

Odesu

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Oct 26, 2017
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No, I'm really not falling for anything and this whole narrative that emerged since yesterday over this is irritating.

Stop acting like the alt-right goons are pulling one over on people just because they exposed something. If there's nothing to expose, these tactics do not work.

You very simply do not understand that everyonehas something, somewhere. Everyone. You. Me. And comedians who often make their money with telling offensive jokes (Gunn was a Troma writer for heaven's sake) more than anyone else. If this is the standard you want, then you are just as guilty as Gunn. Patton Is. Silverman is. They are retweeting decade old tweets of them right now, in this very moment.

Basically every single Comedian in the world is fucked. Stephen Merchant, Matt Stone, Bob Saget, doesn't really matter. They are all done for, they all have to be fired and shunned. If these people WANT to find something on someone, they WILL find something on someone. And if you once made offensive shit for a small circle of fans who liked you for making offensive shit? Then there is absolutely no saving yourself.
 
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Deleted member 1635

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ZattMurdockI do not believe you're willing to stand up for anything you supposedly believe in if it means missing out on your dumb kiddy movies.

I mean... when you boil it down, I think that's the only reason people are pushing to get Gunn rehired. If he didn't direct Marvel movies, I bet a lot of folks willing to forgive and forget wouldn't be posting about this at all.

It was his whole thing. Look at the movies he made.

Professional work is different then tweets on a personal Twitter account, especially when it's not clear at all if you're doing a bit or whatever.

Either way, that still does not clarify whether anyone here or in Disney knew about these set of tweets that go to some pretty far extremes, even when compared to his "fictional super heroes I want to fuck" blog post that seemed to be the primary driver behind the heat he got in last time around.
 

Volimar

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So you were fully aware of these tweets that, to most of us, seemingly just got "unearthed?" All of the articles people are linking to from a few years ago certainly did not mention these particular, much nastier, tweets and posts.


I was an adult back in his Troma and PG Porn days, yeah if you knew his name back then you knew what he liked to spout. He never hid that part of his past and evolved quite a bit since then.
 

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I mean... when you boil it down, I think that's the only reason people are pushing to get Gunn rehired. If he didn't direct Marvel movies, I bet a lot of folks willing to forgive and forget wouldn't be posting about this at all.
People like him for the same reasons that got him targeted.
 

jett

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Taika deserves better than getting lost in the marvel machine.
 

Deleted member 1635

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I was an adult back in his Troma and PG Porn days, yeah if you knew his name back then you knew what he liked to spout. He never hid that part of his past and evolved quite a bit since then.

Working on Troma movies is not the same as tweeting that kind of shit from your personal twitter account and presenting them as views of your own.
 

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You very simply do not understand that everyonehas something, somewhere. Everyone. You. Me. And comedians who often make their money with telling offensive jokes (Gunn was a Troma writer for heaven's sake) more than anyone else. If this is the standard you want, then you are just as guilty as Gunn. Patton Is. Silverman is. Basically every single Comedian in the world is Stephen Merchant, Matt Stone, Bob Saget, doesn't really matter. They are all done for, they all have to be fired and shunned. If these people WANT to find something on someone, they WILL find something on someone. And if you once made offensive shit for a small circle of fans who liked you for making offensive shit? Then there is absolutely no saving yourself.

I don't think that's true at all. I think context matters. I also think Gunn will be just fine and have a fine career going forward if he chooses to stick with it and continue to seek out work. Plenty of people still like him and are happy to support him. Him not directing the next big comic book movie is not the end of the world and it's not even damaging to social progress. He will be fine, he will continue to have influence, and he will continue to be an ally to progress and decry Trump. He just won't be working for Disney in the immediate future.
 

Sean

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Signed. Fuck the Alt-right American Nazis. And fuck anyone dumb enough to still be taking their bait. It's shameful.
 

Odesu

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Working on Troma movies is not the same as tweeting that kind of shit from your personal twitter account and presenting them as views of your own.

I just don't understand this point, I'm sorry. What do you mean with "views"? They were bad, offensive, pseudo-edgy jokes. The only "view" he presented here is that he found bad, offensive, pseudo-edgy jokes funny. Which is what his entire movie career was built on, too. He didn't make political statements, he didn't try to legalize pedophilia. That's what Cernovich and his fellow racists are trying to paint this as, some asinine pedophile conspiracy in line with his incredibly dangerous Pizzagate-nonsense. This is very simply part of that. Have you never heard of Bob Saget?
 

Salty Rice

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah its really scary how many are still falling for the alt-right and also dont believe in people changing.

I bet Gunn is a better human being now than most people who got the pitchforks ready.
 

Thisman

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Oct 25, 2017
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Did I miss something? I thought he just got fired for all the dumb rape and pedo jokes.

He did. When he made them , his tweets and his apology was not mainstream. They became mainstream now. He didn't suffer consequences then and was awarded big director contracts and apparently now he is suffering the consequences of his words
 

Volimar

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Working on Troma movies is not the same as tweeting that kind of shit from your personal twitter account and presenting them as views of your own.


I meant that if you knew his name from what he did you knew the kinds of jokes he made. They were indefensible then and now. But he is a changed man. That should always count when you're holding someone accountable for pas misdeeds.

Edit: Whoops you're banned. Er I don't usually reply to people who can't answer but there's nothing controversial in my statement so I'll leave it.
 

Etain

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Oct 25, 2017
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He was, but because hes not alt-right, everyone is banding behind him.

Its sad i should say this, im anti alt-right, but this site seems to have double standards
They're ancient tweets. I suppose honestly I won't be TOO heart broken if he's kept off, but I'd like to show that we're willing to forgive if an honest, sustained effort is made to move beyond that past.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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ZattMurdock in two weeks, if Gunn isn't back, will you boycott all Marvel products?

I'm 100% questioning your conviction btw. i think you're making a big stank because it's easy to talk on a forum. I do not believe you're willing to stand up for anything you supposedly believe in if it means missing out on your dumb kiddy movies.
'Dumb kiddy movies.'

From the dude with an anime avatar on a video game forum.

Sometimes we need to chill with the holier than thou, don't you think? You can question his conviction without posting some dumb shit.
 

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Lol at editing out complaints


Anyway, I feel all right being in agreement with Dave Bautista and Michael Rooker on this, and not actual rapist Mike Cernovich or rotting boil Ted Cruz
 

Odesu

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Oct 26, 2017
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He was, disney does not take pedo jokes lightly

Do me a favor. Please. Read this post: https://www.resetera.com/posts/10651477/

And then explain to me how this is a double standard. Seriously. Please. Because all I see y'all doing is ignoring every argument people are making for why this is different and why this sets a terrible, absolutely dangerious precedent and instead just go with "double standards, they have no idea why they would defend Gunn but attack others!11!!"