What in the... oh my god, fucking lmao!
What a fucking shitshow the US politics has descended into. This is unironically why Trump won, BTW. Enjoy another 4 years of him.
What in the... oh my god, fucking lmao!
You can't be serious. This is beyond parody.
Bottom line, guys, is you are welcome to have a nice long discussion about how Netanyahu is a far right genocidal piece of shit, or you can complain about not being able to use the specific term "Nazi" until threads get closed.
Everything we do begins and ends with the community. A community that decided with one voice, without any direction from above, what it believed in and what it would stand for.
Moderation has still not addressed why there are exceptions to the rule (you can't call any Jewish person a Nazi but it's okay to call Milo and Miller, both Jewish, as Nazis). And if there are exceptions, why can't that exception be extended to a "genocidal piece of shit" like Netanyahu?Bottom line, guys, is you are welcome to have a nice long discussion about how Netanyahu is a far right genocidal piece of shit, or you can complain about not being able to use the specific term "Nazi" until threads get closed.
Just so we're clear, does this rule apply to cops, republicans and Trump voters? Because oftentimes people tend to lump all of those people into the Nazis category, or is it just Israel?Bottom line, guys, is you are welcome to have a nice long discussion about how Netanyahu is a far right genocidal piece of shit, or you can complain about not being able to use the specific term "Nazi" until threads get closed.
They said this place would be different.Bottom line, guys, is you are welcome to have a nice long discussion about how Netanyahu is a far right genocidal piece of shit, or you can complain about not being able to use the specific term "Nazi" until threads get closed.
Hey, if you guys want to throw something my way that I can bring up and discuss with staff when I can, I'm all ears, or the circle can just keep going on and on. I'm more than happy to try and cut through the chaff to put something together.
Moderation has still not addressed why there are exceptions to the rule (you can't call any Jewish person a Nazi but it's okay to call Milo and Miller, both Jewish, as Nazis). And if there are exceptions, why can't that exception be extended to a "genocidal piece of shit" like Netanyahu?
I just did.Hey, if you guys want to throw something my way that I can bring up and discuss with staff when I can, I'm all ears.
Just let it go, people. It's useless. Especially since we are given the threat that if we keep questioning it then the Israel-Palestinians threads will be closed again and again and again and again and again. It's basically, stop complaining, stop questioning us, stop criticizing our decision, or else.
Just... let it go.
How about opening a thread were we can have a open discussion with the mod team? Where everyone can get his or her piece out?Hey, if you guys want to throw something my way that I can bring up and discuss with staff when I can, I'm all ears, or the circle can just keep going on and on. I'm more than happy to try and cut through the chaff to put something together.
I feel pretty strongly about the situation in Israel and want to have more open discussion on news that happens in the region on this forum without it getting derailed/locked and I don't like seeing our community killing each other over debate over the usage of words getting people banned - especially when ultimately many of the people involved AGREE on the actual matter, just not on what words should be used. The situation is bad and this thread is another example why it is hard to have a discussion on Israel. I think there needs to be serious discussion on how moderators and admins feel about the issue and for a better solution to be found than just banning people or telling people to shut up. That would be very much appreciated.Hey, if you guys want to throw something my way that I can bring up and discuss with staff when I can, I'm all ears, or the circle can just keep going on and on. I'm more than happy to try and cut through the chaff to put something together.
"Break their arms and legs".OT: I still remember being positive somewhere in the mid nineties that peace would happen.
What happen Israel(don't mean everyone), that you came to believe in becoming evil.
"You don't make peace with friends. You make it with very unsavory enemies."
"We must think differently, look at things in a different way. Peace requires a world of new concepts, new definitions."
"We do not celebrate the death of our enemies"
..........yeah, i should stop believing in people in power and that they got any decency.
Don't get me wrong, he was way better than Netanyahu, but like, all the shit that was going on right now was going on back then, and it was going on for decades before that...........yeah, i should stop believing in people in power and that they got any decency.
Zero.How big are the chances that the Israeli population vote for a peaceful Knesset/Gouverment next time? Because for as long as the israeli population votes these people in power nothing will change. And no board rage, name calling, bans or whatever will change that.
Benjamin is also a hypocritcal Holocaust revisionist and surrounds himself with anti-semites.
How big are the chances that the Israeli population vote for a peaceful Knesset/Gouverment next time? Because for as long as the israeli population votes these people in power nothing will change. And no board rage, name calling, bans or whatever will change that.
People, this is a far cry from GAF. Mods are being clear on what the policy is and aren't censoring/removing posts and banning anybody merely questioning the status quo.
There is a question to how to handle figures individuals who, while Jewish, support anti-Semitic views and haven't been exempt up to now.
Granted, I agree that there's more apt comparisons. I recognize the history of the comparisons. Hell, I even feel that this board is way too eager to brand everything and anything they disagree with the Nazi label.
That all said, this isn't some horrible affront and conspiracy.
I get that, but i just don't understand why people have to go to so much horror and brutality, it's pure sadness. This is not only about Israel but in general sense. In my, naive opinion, i don't understand why we humans think it's ok to make other people suffer/hurting them only because of whatever reason.Don't get me wrong, he was way better than Netanyahu, but like, all the shit that was going on right now was going on back then, and it was going on for decades before that.
Wish people would stop following this biggot. Hes been caught comparing homosexuals to paedophiles, amongst other despicable things https://www.real.video/5820409492001
Mods and admins are discussing it.
EDIT: Apologies, I jumped the gun here. There hasn't been any detailed discussion about this across the team. We'll talk it over and figure it out.
It's because people are inherently evil.I get that, but i just don't understand why people have to go to so much horror and brutality, it's pure sadness. This is not only about Israel but in general sense. In my, naive opinion, i don't understand why we humans think it's ok to make other people suffer/hurting them only because of whatever reason.
Zero.
There's a small chance that due to some scandals the Likud will not be in power and you get some centrist coalition (it's till not super likely, but possible), but ain't no one giving the plaestinians in the west bank basic human rights.
Perhaps its that simple. But honestly i kinda want to believe in another naive opinion that in any power difference, people become less in touch with their emotional part of themselves because of the decisions that they have to make.
The official policy of the current government is "managing the conflict", i.e. try to limit the number of casualties in Israel and slowly build more settlements.So what happens is what the israel population to a large degree voted for, thats how democracy works. The international community won´t bat an eye. So it´s like discussing if water is wet. The palestinians will mostly die, israel will sack their lands end of story. Just another sad chapter in human history, people will at some time look back upon and ask why noone did anything.
It's mostly nationalism. I mean yeah, racism and religion play into it, but the way the population is indoctrinated to think like that is mostly the good old nationalist playbook.I get that, but i just don't understand why people have to go to so much horror and brutality, it's pure sadness. This is not only about Israel but in general sense. In my, naive opinion, i don't understand why we humans think it's ok to make other people suffer/hurting them only because of whatever reason.
I think these quotes from holocaust survivors sum up best how i fell about this
"......given up everything that has to do with humanity, with empathy, for one thing: the state. The 'blood and soil,' just like the Nazis. I learned in school about blood and soil, and that's exactly their idea, too." - Hajo Meyer. Born in Bielefeld, Germany, in 1924, Meyer fled Germany for the Netherlands at age 14, where he went into hiding when the Nazis invaded a year later. Captured in 1944, he was sent to Auschwitz. His parents died after being deported from Germany.
"Like the Nazis, the Israel government enforces collective punishment. It aims to kill enough Palestinians, to punish them sufficiently, drive them out of their homeland, so they will disappear as a people. Israel seeks to remove Palestine from the world's family of nations. That too is a form of genocide…. Every case of oppression is unique, but the struggle for justice is indivisible. As we then fought for freedom for European Jews, we now call for freedom for the Palestinians....For me, as a survivor of the Holocaust, the tragic situation in Gaza awakens memories of what I and my family experienced under Hitler – the ghetto walls, the killings, the systematic starvation and deprivation, the daily humiliations."- Suzanne Weiss. Born in Paris during the Nazi occupation, Weiss was sent by a resistance organization to Auvergne, where she lived in hiding with a peasant family. Her parents did not survive, and after the war, Weiss left France. She now lives in Canada, and is a member of Not In Our Name: Jewish Voices Against Zionism and of the Coalition Against Israeli Apartheid.
what about this:
UK isn't much better. It seems we're willing to turn a blind eye to Israel's actions and I, for the life of me, can't understand why.I'm curious, is the US the main gate in condemning Israel, or is the rest of the West just as supportive?
I'm curious, is the US the main gate in condemning Israel, or is the rest of the West just as supportive?
Edit: To expand, why would that be? I get the US reasoning, as it's tied heavily for one parties platform and in our military spending/investment. I don't recall any other nations investing as much of themselves in continuing such support.