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Blizzard has removed Hong Kong Hearthstone player blitzchung from Hearthstone Grand Masters and rescinded all his prize money
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That legal obligation is only a theory that's untested in courts, though it is often used as an excuse in order to help them sleep at night for their disgusting actions.
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He broke the rules, and got punished for it as per the rule book.
I personally believe that gaming/sports should not be me mixed with politics, because then you leave room for taking sides, but anyway I still think the punishment is a little too severe.
I personally believe that gaming/sports should not be me mixed with politics, because then you leave room for taking sides, but anyway I still think the punishment is a little too severe.
So you would have been one of the white people mad when this happened in 68:
So oppressed people shouldn't use their platforms to speak about their oppression? Got you loud and clear.
Being forbidden from supporting freedom is very much political. "You cannot offend" is very much a political rule. Attempting to stamp out the political aspects of anything is inherently political. You can't get away from it.
Bet if he ranted about Trump or USA in general they wouldn't ban him. I mean we have just seen the same thing with NBA & Ubisoft too.
Don't get me wrong, Trump is a dickhead, but damn these double standards are starting to get scary, showing how much control China has.
Even better: overwhelm every big presentation at Blizzcon with super loud chants of "FREE HONG KONG"
Blizzard is within their rights to protect their financial interests. But choosing to suppress political speech IS political speech. Blizzard has decided to support China on this issue. People attending Blizzcon (and NBA games for that matter) can use our free speech to force them into a corner.
Like I said, that's not my opinion. I don't think that sports should be "neutral" as in turning a blind eye to everything, but when the people at the top of the sport community (the IOC) act that way, it's not surprising to see a somehow similar behaviour from others, because you see, "sport is not politics", "sport should be neutral", etc.
As far as I'm concerned , I never liked Blizzard, so I didn't lose any illusions about them.
This is what we get when we allow China to be world leader in economy. Every business, from every corner of the world, will bend down to them and take their money.
I'm neither white nor American, so not sure what your point is.So you would have been one of the white people mad when this happened in 68:
So oppressed people shouldn't use their platforms to speak about their oppression? Got you loud and clear.
There are many platforms to express your opinions; but if a specific platform does not wish for itself to be associated with political statements, then I understand it.
People attending Blizzcon should organizedly shout out interview stuff through their conferences.
In ActiBlizz case this is not an excuse lol
If they want to make business in China, be it on mobile or PC, they need to go through Tencent and other chinese publishers and no, they can't simply say:
"Who cares about China".
Yeah I ain't fucking with Blizzard and Activision ever again.
Sorry, but your personal beliefs are a bit shit.
I understand what you're saying and I can agree to some extent, but I also understand the other side of it where a platform with wide appeal does not wish to be used in that way and alienate itself by placing a blanket ban on any political statements.
If only there were some way to click the picture or enter a search on Google for something like "black baseball player dodgers."
The cited rule reads any act that "brings you into public disrepute, offends a portion or group of the public, or otherwise damages Blizzard image ".
I don't see anything about statements against authoritarian governments which may harm Blizzard's business dealings with that government.
You don't know who Jackie Robinson is? One of the most important athletes of all time.
No deflection. Absolutely fuck Blizzard for this, but the poster I responded to said "there's no free speech in capitalism", because "no matter what you say" things will cater to the 1%. It seems contradictory.
You're right, the rules are vague; which is why I felt the punishment was too severe.
Modern democracy is basically an oligarchy, I think was the takeaway.
Besides deleting Blizzard games in protest against their corporate greed, if you want to delete your account as well there's a relatively hidden page to do just that :
Jackie Robinson was the first black American player to break the color barrier, an unwritten rule that said black players could not play on "white" teams. They brought politics into baseball because it was the right thing to do for an oppressed group.
After seeing Blizzard fans get up in arms over the most disproportionate little things about the product line, I hope there is some properly serious blowback for this, which is—in over twenty years of closely supporting and observing Blizzard—absolutely the most disgraceful thing I've ever seen them do, and the one thing that has ever threatened to cost them my business. They had better walk this back.
I applaud you for your courage.
I don't know that I'm able to take that big a hit when it would purely serve my own conscience, and in practical terms, is unlikely to produce any action. But that's on me. On my end it's hard to make money talk when I haven't actually paid into Blizzard in years (coasting off Battle.net balance)—but as you said, it's just as much about time, attention, and mindshare as it is about cash. In any case, this atrocious ruling has made my decision very, very easy when it comes to imminent Blizzard purchases I was actively considering, and indeed thinking about when I heard the news. I was going to spend some balance on them today. No more; glad I dodged that bullet.
Compliments to Slasher for putting pressure on this, and to the Blizzard community at large for being on the right side of the matter. (And I'm impressed with this board, really, given that it's more susceptible than most places to providing a platform for fashionable tankies and pro-China apologists.) One thing that does get Blizzard's attention is a community uproar. Influential community figures need to step in. Pros, casters, teams, and sponsors need to start pulling out. We need an apology and a correction, and a delegitimization at that level, not only through boycotts at the level of the individual consumer, is what has a hope of getting results.
I'm reluctant to humour your sidetrack with a reply, but I guarantee you TotalBiscuit would have been one of the loudest voices in the room to raise a stink about this, and that right now, his presence and leverage are sorely missed. Lay off.
I'm deleting my account with hundreds of hours of Overwatch, Hearthstone, WoW, Diablo and StarCraft. I encourage you guys to do the same. Blizzard doesn't deserve your money and time, plenty of great games and devs out there who don't support genocidal regimes.
I applaud you for your courage.
I don't know that I'm able to take that big a hit when it would purely serve my own conscience, and in practical terms, is unlikely to produce any action. But that's on me. On my end it's hard to make money talk when I haven't actually paid into Blizzard in years (coasting off Battle.net balance)—but as you said, it's just as much about time, attention, and mindshare as it is about cash. In any case, this atrocious ruling has made my decision very, very easy when it comes to imminent Blizzard purchases I was actively considering, and indeed thinking about when I heard the news. I was going to spend some balance on them today. No more; glad I dodged that bullet.
Compliments to Slasher for putting pressure on this, and to the Blizzard community at large for being on the right side of the matter. (And I'm impressed with this board, really, given that it's more susceptible than most places to providing a platform for fashionable tankies and pro-China apologists.) One thing that does get Blizzard's attention is a community uproar. Influential community figures need to step in. Pros, casters, teams, and sponsors need to start pulling out. We need an apology and a correction, and a delegitimization at that level, not only through boycotts at the level of the individual consumer, is what has a hope of getting results.
I'm reluctant to humour your sidetrack with a reply, but I guarantee you TotalBiscuit would have been one of the loudest voices in the room to raise a stink about this, and that right now, his presence and leverage are sorely missed. Lay off.
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What really sucks, after some thought, is that this is happening right near ActiBlizz's biggest game this year, CoD Modern Warfare. And there isn't a chance in hell that fails. But I've already decided to skip that, as well anything Diablo related for the foreseeable future.
I'm from Central Europe. I don't know anything about the history of baseball.
But now I've heard of Jackie Robinson.
Ah yes, the punishment for daring to speak out against a extremely facist regime which is committing all sorts of atrocities is only a little to severe.
The rules are "Don't make political statements that can potentially make us make less money".
Thankfully I only had Overwatch, and was about to jump back in after my PC upgrade. Never supporting them again.
Congratulations. You just took a political side by saying that you would prefer things NOT to be political. Almost like there isn't a stance that you can take that ISN'T political.
Also a good reminder that Blizzard doesn't give a shit about social justice, unless it has been focus tested to be good PR and profitable.
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